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  • #352762
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    You know hanzze, I use to be an idiot like you, thought I knew everything because I could of new found knowledge from Buddhist philosophy, then I realize that it didn’t mean shit If I never actually experienced it. The thing I admire about our Christian friends is that they have something that they believe in, something that they are in touch with that is greater then just words, or books, human concepts or theories, it is something that could only be experienced.

    #352780
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    Was that the answer, or just a self refection?

    The topic is about asking our friend a question, he told us that it gives him a opportunity to spirituality and a spiritual joy. As for the questioner it could be just a way to understand more. So just face me as an idiot asking questions, that is ok.

    Compassion is up to you but its always a personality conflict and then it breaks down. *smile*

    #352800
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy]

    #352790
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Was that the answer, or just a self refection?

    The topic is about asking our friend a question, he told us that it gives him a opportunity to spirituality and a spiritual joy. As for the questioner it could be just a way to understand more. So just face me as an idiot asking questions, that is ok.

    Compassion is up to you but its always a personality conflict and then it breaks down. *smile*

    lol, you’re such a hypocrite, You aren’t trying to understand his answer, but enforce your own doctrine or dogma. If you would just think deeply, you could realize what Bowang beliefs has similarities with eastern philosophy.

    “In the world there are many different roads but the destination is the same. There are a hundred deliberations but the result is one.”

    #352810
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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Was that the answer, or just a self refection?

    The topic is about asking our friend a question, he told us that it gives him a opportunity to spirituality and a spiritual joy. As for the questioner it could be just a way to understand more. So just face me as an idiot asking questions, that is ok.

    Compassion is up to you but its always a personality conflict and then it breaks down. *smile*

    lol, you’re such a hypocrite, You aren’t trying to understand his answer, but enforce your own doctrine or dogma. If you would just think deeply, you could realize what Bowang beliefs has similarities with eastern philosophy.

    “In the world there are many different roads but the destination is the same. There are a hundred deliberations but the result is one.” [/quote]

    Yes I know, Bowangs beliefs are a quite popular mix of Hindu and western thinking. I dont think that it is needed to think very deeply to find this out.

    Regarding the different roads, also yes as long this are roads and not rollercoaster. Rollercoaster give a lot of pleasure but will not come to any destination.
    But deliberations are like rollersoasters, one does not start to walk. *smile* Deliberations might bring some pleasure, brain gymnastic is not different from other sensual pleasure.

    #352820
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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.

    #352827
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    bowang
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    my views didn’t come from “hinduism”. they are strictly christian. when i have time later on tonight, i will reveal one of the greatest mysteries of them all to support my claim.

    #352840
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    Fuddyduddy
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.[/quote]

    Do you even know what you say sometimes, at least try to be coherent. Confucius’s quote has to do with roads and not roller coaster. And, if you aren’t clear what deliberation means, it is to examine carefully, thoughtfulness in action or decision, mediating on a thought. The way you compare roller coaster to deliberation it doesn’t make any sense when using it in the context of the quote, or it’s definition. Confucius is saying that there are many ways or (roads) of reflecting on a thought or spiritual understanding, but they always lead to the same truth. He’s not saying there are many ways of meditating on a thought and they lead nowhere, because it’s only for sensual pleasures.

    I would think that a Buddhist practitioner like your self would be able to find the correlation between the process of Individuation and the Buddhist understanding of how a person evolves. You either didn’t read what I wrote, or you seem to fail to understand it. It has nothing to do with believing in personalities, it has to do with personal development that goes beyond the ego and deeper into other aspects of yourself.

    Enlightenment doesn’t occur from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality. –Carl Jung.

    #352850
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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.[/quote]

    Do you even know what you say sometimes, at least try to be coherent. Confucius’s quote has to do with roads and not roller coaster. And, if you aren’t clear what deliberation means, it is to examine carefully, thoughtfulness in action or decision, mediating on a thought. The way you compare roller coaster to deliberation it doesn’t make any sense when using it in the context of the quote, or it’s definition. Confucius is saying that there are many ways or (roads) of reflecting on a thought or spiritual understanding, but they always lead to the same truth. He’s not saying there are many ways of meditating on a thought and they lead nowhere, because it’s only for sensual pleasures.

    I would think that a Buddhist practitioner like your self would be able to find the correlation between the process of Individuation and the Buddhist understanding of how a person evolves. You either didn’t read what I wrote, or you seem to fail to understand it. It has nothing to do with believing in personalities, it has to do with personal development that goes beyond the ego and deeper into other aspects of yourself.

    Enlightenment doesn’t occur from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality. –Carl Jung.
    [/quote]

    So its some of a “devil-angle” reconciliation, remembers me also a little on the Hinduism worship on the Vishnu or the universal uniting of the opposite. Maybe Carl Jung came in touch with Hinduism to, you know that was quite popular since over 100 years in the west. We just need to access our dark side is very popular very, we just need enough ignorance, many compensations in daily life and not a little effort. So its quite better than all this heavy and continuously practicing.

    We also can put some Confucius into it, we will need some times of calm and silence and non-action as compensation. *smile* We could make a bespoke tailor – Online – we make you are personal religion shop. You just need to put into all your lazy habits and will get your personal religion. Maybe also with a maintenance option in different levels as some habits may change. So a one time in a month maintenance tool for open-minded and down to free of maintenance package for stubborn. Including personal hero rendering and integration in your personal religion logo and identity card. *smile* A personal zodiac and future telling tool could be sold additional.

    I guess we (or I) are to far away of asking our friend just questions *smile*
    As for de – liberation, it might be that it is a personal language problem. Let us think more about enlightenment *smile* I am sure we can rhyme some together to a nice and bright enlightenment.

    #352859
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    Fuddyduddy
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.[/quote]

    Do you even know what you say sometimes, at least try to be coherent. Con*!#@^#’s quote has to do with roads and not roller coaster. And, if you aren’t clear what deliberation means, it is to examine carefully, thoughtfulness in action or decision, mediating on a thought. The way you compare roller coaster to deliberation it doesn’t make any sense when using it in the context of the quote, or it’s definition. Con*!#@^# is saying that there are many ways or (roads) of reflecting on a thought or spiritual understanding, but they always lead to the same truth. He’s not saying there are many ways of meditating on a thought and they lead nowhere, because it’s only for sensual pleasures.

    I would think that a Buddhist practitioner like your self would be able to find the correlation between the process of Individuation and the Buddhist understanding of how a person evolves. You either didn’t read what I wrote, or you seem to fail to understand it. It has nothing to do with believing in personalities, it has to do with personal development that goes beyond the ego and deeper into other aspects of yourself.

    Enlightenment doesn’t occur from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality. –Carl Jung.
    [/quote]

    So its some of a “devil-angle” reconciliation, remembers me also a little on the Hinduism worship on the Vishnu or the universal uniting of the opposite. Maybe Carl Jung came in touch with Hinduism to, you know that was quite popular since over 100 years in the west. We just need to access our dark side is very popular very, we just need enough ignorance, many compensations in daily life and not a little effort. So its quite better than all this heavy and continuously practicing.

    We also can put some Con*!#@^# into it, we will need some times of calm and silence and non-action as compensation. *smile* We could make a bespoke tailor – Online – we make you are personal religion shop. You just need to put into all your lazy habits and will get your personal religion. Maybe also with a maintenance option in different levels as some habits may change. So a one time in a month maintenance tool for open-minded and down to free of maintenance package for stubborn. Including personal hero rendering and integration in your personal religion logo and identity card. *smile* A personal zodiac and future telling tool could be sold additional.

    I guess we (or I) are to far away of asking our friend just questions *smile*
    As for de – liberation, it might be that it is a personal language problem. Let us think more about enlightenment *smile* I am sure we can rhyme some together to a nice and bright enlightenment.

    [/quote]

    I’m sorry, but I just have to chuckle. I have no idea what you just said. However, I was able to make out some sort of coherent jabber out of that gibberish you just spewed. But, it isn’t enough to warrant any sort of refute, because again, I have no idea what you are trying to imply, it’s almost like I just got attacked by a retard, and I’m just in awe of what to do.

    Oh, by the way Carl Jun is noted for introducing Buddhism to western thinkers, please do your research.

    [Message last modified 10-11-2011 01:03am by Fuddyduddy]

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