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  • #351839
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
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    do not believe in rumors, go to the source. i appreciate you asking me personally. i didnt do such a thing. but if you truly converted to christianity you will resist the urge to sniff your sisters panties.

    [i]Originally posted by n_n1985[/i]
    I heard rumour you went through your sister drawers to sniff her panties.

    If I convert myself to be a Christian, can I do that too?

    #351849
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]

    #351858
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    hanzze,

    we speak of desire but even a boddhisattva has the desire to help the less fortunate by staying behind, postponing nirvana. it is wise to be true to yourself, admit to your own potential. we are all sinners and to carry the boulders on our shoulders may be too much to bear. christ died on the cross carrying this great burden for us. he took your debt and paid for it in full. you on the other hand may kid yourself into thinking that arahantship is attainable. but what if at the last moment, you realize that you’re wrong and didnt take the help offered to you by a boddhisattva. perhaps by then it will be too late.

    #351867
    Avatar of rasy
    rasy
    Participant

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    the old testament outlined the 10 commandments. in it are a many prohibitions. you teach a child by telling him what not to do because that is the language he understads. as the child gets older with more experiences and maturity, you tell him what to do instead. that’s what happened with the new testament. its no longer about prohibiting judgement or the many countless sins out there, buts its more proactive instead of reactive in nature. jesus said love your neighbors. as for passing judgement, we naturally are good at it. it comes easy for us because people are inherently evil and that is the nature of sin. the more you are in christ, the more you do instead of not doing.

    so passing judgement comes natural as a result of inherent evil, so there for passing judgement would be wrong, thank you.

    #351877
    Avatar of
    Anonymous

    Dear friend,

    you are who you are is not an answer, it was the reason for the question. I asked you what and who you are.

    If you think you are your body, it must be that you are attached to it, thinking it is your. If it is you, why does it never listen to you. It gets old, sick and dissolves constantly. Actually you body is changing all the time and you would not easy find a single part after a week which is the same before, so it is not a lasting thing, not even for some minutes. Your hairs fall out your skin dies all the cells of your body are changing constantly. So it is difficult for me, if you tell your body is your, it is you. You would not exist, there would be only a process of vanish parts and arising parts. Actually it is a composing of elements.

    I did also not ask, what you believe who and what your are, so the answer my soul is pretty strange. First of all, what would be the soul, do you know that? Where is that soul, had you seen it, had you feel it. What should that be, that soul?

    And more strange, you bring up an owner of that soul, you say my soul. Who would be the owner of that soul?

    The memories, could that be you. So your memories and experiences are you. It would be a nice idea, but aren’t they changing all the time? What if you loose your memories, what would be called you? In the case your memories and experiences would be a person a being, an I, it would be also nothing constant, it would be also a process which no core. Nothing lasting, nothing eternal.

    From a source, back to a source. Which sense would that make. Somebody builds up a being let it suffer for some years and destroy it again. Remembers me on children playing with animals, or building a sandcastle and destroy it again. So what would be the idea of creating a being, tell it, you are now a being and destroy it again?

    Please try to answer my questions more serous and out of your observations and not just ideas and stories which are told. Please look first for your self how it really is.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #351885
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    Anonymous

    Yes, also a Boddhisatva has a desire. If he is really a Boddhisatva his disire would be a noble one. Striving for enlightenment to free all other beings. That is the way of a Boddhisatva.

    No need to talk about Christ, the are millions of people, soldier and what ever, who die in the delusion that they would help others when they sacrifice there live. The only effect is that others also follow to sacrifice there live, rather to strive for understanding first, to be really able to help.
    Millions of “Bodhisattvas” are running around killing to help others. They dont know what they are doing. Helping in delusion is not help, it just makes it more worth. Look at Pol Pot, actually he was a thought “Bodhisattva”, he had try to help his people out, in fact, he did not understand live and cause and effect and lead into a lot of suffering out of lacking wisdom.

    Look at Jesus (the story – he him self had no problem, as he did not die and for an yogi pain is just pain, he would not have suffered as he would not be attached to pain as something that is him self), how many wars are fought because of his sacrifice? If he would not let it be like that, there would have been much more peace.

    If we let die this stories in your head, we would be at peace. Still we fight battles which are not ours, and are not a little real.

    I kill for my familie, I kill for my daughter, I kill for my country. Actually all of them are killing because they think they help. If you look into the deep, they all just like to keep there attachments, that what they are attached to alive, so that this what they call “I” or “mine” does not die. There is nothing more selfish as those people who help and have no idea of cause and effect, they can not help them out by them self, but like to save others.

    (helping) Killing in the name of jesus, Buddha… it is also the same. That is desire, poor selfish desire, but has nothing to do with the noble desire to strive for cessation of suffering, to help one self and all other beings. This desire does not hurt a single being. It protects all being in this world.

    It will never be to late to understand, you will turn on and on till you do. But a existence as a human is very rare, so dont wast it.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    hanzze,

    we speak of desire but even a boddhisattva has the desire to help the less fortunate by staying behind, postponing nirvana. it is wise to be true to yourself, admit to your own potential. we are all sinners and to carry the boulders on our shoulders may be too much to bear. christ died on the cross carrying this great burden for us. he took your debt and paid for it in full. you on the other hand may kid yourself into thinking that arahantship is attainable. but what if at the last moment, you realize that you’re wrong and didnt take the help offered to you by a boddhisattva. perhaps by then it will be too late.

    #351894
    Avatar of Fuddyduddy
    Fuddyduddy
    Participant

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    ask and i will answer. i wont make it too long. i’ll try to keep it short and fun.

    Have you ever thought you were Jesus, I sure have, man that was a trip and a half.

    #351904
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    #351915
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    i have been honest. like a true buddhist you have many questions. many open ended questions without the ability to make a sound conclusion. perhaps you are looking for answers to fit your paradigm. however, i view and see the world differently.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Dear friend,

    you are who you are is not an answer, it was the reason for the question. I asked you what and who you are.

    If you think you are your body, it must be that you are attached to it, thinking it is your. If it is you, why does it never listen to you. It gets old, sick and dissolves constantly. Actually you body is changing all the time and you would not easy find a single part after a week which is the same before, so it is not a lasting thing, not even for some minutes. Your hairs fall out your skin dies all the cells of your body are changing constantly. So it is difficult for me, if you tell your body is your, it is you. You would not exist, there would be only a process of vanish parts and arising parts. Actually it is a composing of elements.

    I did also not ask, what you believe who and what your are, so the answer my soul is pretty strange. First of all, what would be the soul, do you know that? Where is that soul, had you seen it, had you feel it. What should that be, that soul?

    And more strange, you bring up an owner of that soul, you say my soul. Who would be the owner of that soul?

    The memories, could that be you. So your memories and experiences are you. It would be a nice idea, but aren’t they changing all the time? What if you loose your memories, what would be called you? In the case your memories and experiences would be a person a being, an I, it would be also nothing constant, it would be also a process which no core. Nothing lasting, nothing eternal.

    From a source, back to a source. Which sense would that make. Somebody builds up a being let it suffer for some years and destroy it again. Remembers me on children playing with animals, or building a sandcastle and destroy it again. So what would be the idea of creating a being, tell it, you are now a being and destroy it again?

    Please try to answer my questions more serous and out of your observations and not just ideas and stories which are told. Please look first for your self how it really is.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]
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    [/quote]

    #351924
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    Anonymous

    Your topic is “Ask me a question” so dont run away. No need to think about, if I would know the answer or not. It is your tread. *smile* Or is the name of the topic: “Ask me, and if I know and like I will response.”?

    So once again, who and what are you?
    Who is seeing the world?

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i have been honest. like a true buddhist you have many questions. many open ended questions without the ability to make a sound conclusion. perhaps you are looking for answers to fit your paradigm. however, i view and see the world differently.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Dear friend,

    you are who you are is not an answer, it was the reason for the question. I asked you what and who you are.

    If you think you are your body, it must be that you are attached to it, thinking it is your. If it is you, why does it never listen to you. It gets old, sick and dissolves constantly. Actually you body is changing all the time and you would not easy find a single part after a week which is the same before, so it is not a lasting thing, not even for some minutes. Your hairs fall out your skin dies all the cells of your body are changing constantly. So it is difficult for me, if you tell your body is your, it is you. You would not exist, there would be only a process of vanish parts and arising parts. Actually it is a composing of elements.

    I did also not ask, what you believe who and what your are, so the answer my soul is pretty strange. First of all, what would be the soul, do you know that? Where is that soul, had you seen it, had you feel it. What should that be, that soul?

    And more strange, you bring up an owner of that soul, you say my soul. Who would be the owner of that soul?

    The memories, could that be you. So your memories and experiences are you. It would be a nice idea, but aren’t they changing all the time? What if you loose your memories, what would be called you? In the case your memories and experiences would be a person a being, an I, it would be also nothing constant, it would be also a process which no core. Nothing lasting, nothing eternal.

    From a source, back to a source. Which sense would that make. Somebody builds up a being let it suffer for some years and destroy it again. Remembers me on children playing with animals, or building a sandcastle and destroy it again. So what would be the idea of creating a being, tell it, you are now a being and destroy it again?

    Please try to answer my questions more serous and out of your observations and not just ideas and stories which are told. Please look first for your self how it really is.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]
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    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #351934
    Avatar of rasy
    rasy
    Participant

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    are you a JW?

    #351943
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    i am not running away. but your questions are vague. they are also loaded questions. you ask yet you have already answered them in your head. i am not quizzing you because i don’t need your acknowledgement. i want to give you a decent and honest answer but when you say ” who and what are you, who is seeing the world”. i really dont know what you are trying to get at or what to tell you than what i have already stated. why dont you try to make it more clear and concise. your writing style is a bit hard to understand at times. i dont want to compete with you. i want to share my thoughts, that is all.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Your topic is “Ask me a question” so dont run away. No need to think about, if I would know the answer or not. It is your tread. *smile* Or is the name of the topic: “Ask me, and if I know and like I will response.”?

    So once again, who and what are you?
    Who is seeing the world?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i have been honest. like a true buddhist you have many questions. many open ended questions without the ability to make a sound conclusion. perhaps you are looking for answers to fit your paradigm. however, i view and see the world differently.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Dear friend,

    you are who you are is not an answer, it was the reason for the question. I asked you what and who you are.

    If you think you are your body, it must be that you are attached to it, thinking it is your. If it is you, why does it never listen to you. It gets old, sick and dissolves constantly. Actually you body is changing all the time and you would not easy find a single part after a week which is the same before, so it is not a lasting thing, not even for some minutes. Your hairs fall out your skin dies all the cells of your body are changing constantly. So it is difficult for me, if you tell your body is your, it is you. You would not exist, there would be only a process of vanish parts and arising parts. Actually it is a composing of elements.

    I did also not ask, what you believe who and what your are, so the answer my soul is pretty strange. First of all, what would be the soul, do you know that? Where is that soul, had you seen it, had you feel it. What should that be, that soul?

    And more strange, you bring up an owner of that soul, you say my soul. Who would be the owner of that soul?

    The memories, could that be you. So your memories and experiences are you. It would be a nice idea, but aren’t they changing all the time? What if you loose your memories, what would be called you? In the case your memories and experiences would be a person a being, an I, it would be also nothing constant, it would be also a process which no core. Nothing lasting, nothing eternal.

    From a source, back to a source. Which sense would that make. Somebody builds up a being let it suffer for some years and destroy it again. Remembers me on children playing with animals, or building a sandcastle and destroy it again. So what would be the idea of creating a being, tell it, you are now a being and destroy it again?

    Please try to answer my questions more serous and out of your observations and not just ideas and stories which are told. Please look first for your self how it really is.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]
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    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 09-25-2011 10:21am by bowang]

    #351953
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    i do not belong to any denominations.

    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    are you a JW?[/quote]

    #351963
    Avatar of
    Anonymous

    You run away. You have been asked who and what you are and you answer “I am who I am”. That is not an answer. It is like you ask somebody what is blue and he says blue is blue.

    By asking you once more you tell blue is blue, because you believe it is blue.

    You made a tread in the intention that you like to have fun, so why is your fun in answering question gone? If I wouldn’t know an answer would it run out to be no fun any more, if I tell “to be honest, I dont know” or “I had try to figure it out, but I have no real answer”?

    That question is not vague. It would be a vague question, when I ask you about the future, but you are here in the present, or aren’t you? You are here (you think so), so why are you not able to observe it and answer it?

    Maybe you try to look once more and find out who and what you are and who’s it who writes, sees, and have ideas of who you are.

    More effort, I thought it would make you attain some fun!

    (btw: thanks for your patient to understand my writing) *smile*

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not running away. but your questions are vague. they are also loaded questions. you ask yet you have already answered them in your head. i am not quizzing you because i don’t need your acknowledgement. i want to give you a decent and honest answer but when you say ” who and what are you, who is seeing the world”. i really dont know what you are trying to get at or what to tell you than what i have already stated. why dont you try to make it more clear and concise. your writing style is a bit hard to understand at times. i dont want to compete with you. i want to share my thoughts, that is all.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Your topic is “Ask me a question” so dont run away. No need to think about, if I would know the answer or not. It is your tread. *smile* Or is the name of the topic: “Ask me, and if I know and like I will response.”?

    So once again, who and what are you?
    Who is seeing the world?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i have been honest. like a true buddhist you have many questions. many open ended questions without the ability to make a sound conclusion. perhaps you are looking for answers to fit your paradigm. however, i view and see the world differently.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Dear friend,

    you are who you are is not an answer, it was the reason for the question. I asked you what and who you are.

    If you think you are your body, it must be that you are attached to it, thinking it is your. If it is you, why does it never listen to you. It gets old, sick and dissolves constantly. Actually you body is changing all the time and you would not easy find a single part after a week which is the same before, so it is not a lasting thing, not even for some minutes. Your hairs fall out your skin dies all the cells of your body are changing constantly. So it is difficult for me, if you tell your body is your, it is you. You would not exist, there would be only a process of vanish parts and arising parts. Actually it is a composing of elements.

    I did also not ask, what you believe who and what your are, so the answer my soul is pretty strange. First of all, what would be the soul, do you know that? Where is that soul, had you seen it, had you feel it. What should that be, that soul?

    And more strange, you bring up an owner of that soul, you say my soul. Who would be the owner of that soul?

    The memories, could that be you. So your memories and experiences are you. It would be a nice idea, but aren’t they changing all the time? What if you loose your memories, what would be called you? In the case your memories and experiences would be a person a being, an I, it would be also nothing constant, it would be also a process which no core. Nothing lasting, nothing eternal.

    From a source, back to a source. Which sense would that make. Somebody builds up a being let it suffer for some years and destroy it again. Remembers me on children playing with animals, or building a sandcastle and destroy it again. So what would be the idea of creating a being, tell it, you are now a being and destroy it again?

    Please try to answer my questions more serous and out of your observations and not just ideas and stories which are told. Please look first for your self how it really is.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]
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    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 09-25-2011 10:21am by bowang][/quote]

    [Message last modified 09-25-2011 10:36am by hanzze]

    #351973
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    what makes it fun is not necessary the answer but how one answers. it is the answer within the answer hidden to the blind and insightful to the seer. a joke is not a joke unless one gets it. the joke losses it value, no longer funny when one has to explain it in details to someone who is incapable of laughing. khemrin asked, who is my creator. i answered, I AM WHO I AM in reference to GOD. GOD said I AM THAT I AM, when moses asked GOD for His Name. when i said i am who i am, i am referencing God, i am a person a packet of photon, i am but a speck in God consciousness. i am a son of God. one of his many children.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    You run away. You have been asked who and what you are and you answer “I am who I am”. That is not an answer. It is like you ask somebody what is blue and he says blue is blue.

    By asking you once more you tell blue is blue, because you believe it is blue.

    You made a tread in the intention that you like to have fun, so why is your fun in answering question gone? If I wouldn’t know an answer would it run out to be no fun any more, if I tell “to be honest, I dont know” or “I had try to figure it out, but I have no real answer”?

    That question is not vague. It would be a vague question, when I ask you about the future, but you are here in the present, or aren’t you? You are here (you think so), so why are you not able to observe it and answer it?

    Maybe you try to look once more and find out who and what you are and who’s it who writes, sees, and have ideas of who you are.

    More effort, I thought it would make you attain some fun!

    (btw: thanks for your patient to understand my writing) *smile*

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not running away. but your questions are vague. they are also loaded questions. you ask yet you have already answered them in your head. i am not quizzing you because i don’t need your acknowledgement. i want to give you a decent and honest answer but when you say ” who and what are you, who is seeing the world”. i really dont know what you are trying to get at or what to tell you than what i have already stated. why dont you try to make it more clear and concise. your writing style is a bit hard to understand at times. i dont want to compete with you. i want to share my thoughts, that is all.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Your topic is “Ask me a question” so dont run away. No need to think about, if I would know the answer or not. It is your tread. *smile* Or is the name of the topic: “Ask me, and if I know and like I will response.”?

    So once again, who and what are you?
    Who is seeing the world?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i have been honest. like a true buddhist you have many questions. many open ended questions without the ability to make a sound conclusion. perhaps you are looking for answers to fit your paradigm. however, i view and see the world differently.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Dear friend,

    you are who you are is not an answer, it was the reason for the question. I asked you what and who you are.

    If you think you are your body, it must be that you are attached to it, thinking it is your. If it is you, why does it never listen to you. It gets old, sick and dissolves constantly. Actually you body is changing all the time and you would not easy find a single part after a week which is the same before, so it is not a lasting thing, not even for some minutes. Your hairs fall out your skin dies all the cells of your body are changing constantly. So it is difficult for me, if you tell your body is your, it is you. You would not exist, there would be only a process of vanish parts and arising parts. Actually it is a composing of elements.

    I did also not ask, what you believe who and what your are, so the answer my soul is pretty strange. First of all, what would be the soul, do you know that? Where is that soul, had you seen it, had you feel it. What should that be, that soul?

    And more strange, you bring up an owner of that soul, you say my soul. Who would be the owner of that soul?

    The memories, could that be you. So your memories and experiences are you. It would be a nice idea, but aren’t they changing all the time? What if you loose your memories, what would be called you? In the case your memories and experiences would be a person a being, an I, it would be also nothing constant, it would be also a process which no core. Nothing lasting, nothing eternal.

    From a source, back to a source. Which sense would that make. Somebody builds up a being let it suffer for some years and destroy it again. Remembers me on children playing with animals, or building a sandcastle and destroy it again. So what would be the idea of creating a being, tell it, you are now a being and destroy it again?

    Please try to answer my questions more serous and out of your observations and not just ideas and stories which are told. Please look first for your self how it really is.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am who i am, a person. althought this physical body is just a temporary shell, my soul is eternal; a packet of photon from the Creator which is Light. i will go back to the Source, given a new spiritual body, retaining all of my memories and experienes as an individual son of God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Who are you?

    Your body, is that you?

    Your mind, is that you?

    Or are your desires, ideas, that what you grasp you? Who would you be if you own nothing? Whould it be still you?

    What are you?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]
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    [Message last modified 09-25-2011 10:21am by bowang][/quote]

    [Message last modified 09-25-2011 10:36am by hanzze][/quote]

    #351980
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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i do not belong to any denominations.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    are you a JW?[/quote]
    [/quote]

    where do you get your doctrine of u (bowang) being one of 144,000?
    am i rasy one of the 144,000?
    if i rasy am one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?
    if i rasy am not one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?

    #351989
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    bowang
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    jw interpretes the 144000 in the most literal sense like there are only 144000 of them literally all virgins. well i am married, obviously not a virgin since i have 2 kids and far from being jewish by birth. so according to the jw, i am a liar. well, i see it differently and my interpretation is from the spirit. the 144000, are scattered throughout the world. they are born again christians who may or may not be gentiles, who have been given signs and symbols, visions in regards to the end time. deep down we feel as though we are living in special times. we are prepped for some sort of duties in accordance with God’s will not fully known at the moment. God prepared us since birth and has sealed us when we’re ready at a certain age. for me it was when i was 23. God makes the proper provisioning in terms of providing the necessary knowledge and strength to assume some sort of role in the future.

    so rasy, i dont know if you are one of the 144000 or not. to believe you are one is to take a great leap of faith that is not logical and puts you in the crazy realm even to a fellow christian. i can only tell you from my experience that you just know so. the significance of your name is a sign. a sign can be something that only you could grasp and put together. y your life story, the yearning, the visions and dreams.

    here i share my witness to the cambodian people because God wants the cambodian people especially online to know about his soon to be Second Coming.

    He was born a warrior if you didnt know it
    ran on dirty streets ever since he was a little kid
    destined to lead, he smiles and stands proud on his 2 bare feet
    bleeding with each steps, he doesnt retreat.

    It’s bitter sweet, sitting here listening to His story
    he bangs hard like a mystery discovered in all of Its glory
    his first spoken words to the world were ” DO YOU SEE ME?
    I AM here to free my people and destroy my enemies”.

    At the age of 23, he was chosen became an elect of God
    the truth signed, sealed, delivered, it couldnt be bought
    he has dreams of David fighting the demons of nimrod
    they declared jihad so must now face the firing squad.

    So what’s the odd of him winning the war in order to be King?
    royal crown is what he wants, never mind the finer things
    his only dream is to hear the devil’s cry and the angels sing
    peace in the middle east while riding high on seraphim wings.

    He’s the lord of his family ring, a mark of the eldest son
    he carries the world on his shoulders heavier than saturn’s titan
    he sipped rum on planet X and gazed at supernovas, had his fun
    satan tempted him, he turned it down because he was done

    His ressurection’s real like born agains waking up from a dream
    three days of darkness and out of breath, he couldnt even scream
    it seems he was caught in a fish bowl struggling to swim upstream
    he’s like the seed of life deep impacting in silent screams.

    He sacrificed it all for the Supreme, in order to be born twice
    blessed from above an act out of love, GOD doesnt play dice
    he’s a warrior locked in a battle with all the worldy strifes
    to know the Truth and lead his children into a better life.

    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i do not belong to any denominations.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    are you a JW?[/quote]
    [/quote]

    where do you get your doctrine of u (bowang) being one of 144,000?
    am i rasy one of the 144,000?
    if i rasy am one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?
    if i rasy am not one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?[/quote]

    #351999
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    Ok, another question: “Why don’t you go for the help of a doctor, as it looks pretty serious?”

    #352007
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    bowang
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    if you are trying to say i’m crazy. i would say you’re crazier. why else would you be asking a crazy person so many questions and expecting a logical answer back esp when you’re far from being a psychologist or psychiatrist. i would agree and go see the doctor if my perceived illness is serious enough to the point where it’s affecting my personal life and i am unable to perform my duties and or uphold my responsibilities. none of which applies. so therefore i am okay just as much as you’re okay. but thanks for your concern.

    .

    [Message last modified 09-26-2011 12:05am by bowang]

    #352017
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    Till now you could not answer a single question in your topic.

    Let me ask you another question:

    “What do you think is the reason, that somebody is not able to answer a question?”

    #352026
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Till now you could not answer a single question in your topic.

    Let me ask you another question:

    “What do you think is the reason, that somebody is not able to answer a question?”

    I just couldn’t help butt in, but really hanzze are you that dense? He just answered your questions, your questions are open ended and it has to do with abstract ideas that convey to one’s perspective and beliefs, just because he believes differently doesn’t mean that he didn’t answer your question, unless you are ignoring his answers and only wanting answers that conforms to your own thoughts and beliefs. /faceplam

    #352036
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    bowang
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    i wrk in sales/customer service so i handle tough questions, escalated issues, and concerns all day long. we have our fair share of tough customers. the emotional, irate, irrational ones. some customers have good reasons to be upset but they are still are able communicate effectively. i think this is a testament to their character and well being especially under conflicting situations . and then there are the difficult ones. they’re calling in due to minor problems, yet they would blow everything out of proportions, they would demand answers but they do not ever want to hear or stop for a moment for the resolution. they’re calling in for help yet they are now the expert when it comes to my policies and procedures, trying to tell me how to do my job when i am the best at my job. these are the difficult people in our lives, the know it all who truly know very little.

    #352045
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    So it seams that i am not very mindful. Maybe you can help me out and recollect the questions and the responding answers.

    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Till now you could not answer a single question in your topic.

    Let me ask you another question:

    “What do you think is the reason, that somebody is not able to answer a question?”

    I just couldn’t help butt in, but really hanzze are you that dense? He just answered your questions, your questions are open ended and it has to do with abstract ideas that convey to one’s perspective and beliefs, just because he believes differently doesn’t mean that he didn’t answer your question, unless you are ignoring his answers and only wanting answers that conforms to your own thoughts and beliefs. /faceplam[/quote]

    #352056
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    Another question:

    “Do you think that there could be a different of your imagination and the reality?”

    For example: You think that another person, responding on your topic is very emotional or maybe have any ill-will. But actually it is the total opposite.

    “So do you think it is possible that we are attached to our ideas (actually to our own emotions) much more as to reality and interpreted those into others?”

    “Do you think reality has something to do which personal emotions?”

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i wrk in sales/customer service so i handle tough questions, escalated issues, and concerns all day long. we have our fair share of tough customers. the emotional, irate, irrational ones. some customers have good reasons to be upset but they are still are able communicate effectively. i think this is a testament to their character and well being especially under conflicting situations . and then there are the difficult ones. they’re calling in due to minor problems, yet they would blow everything out of proportions, they would demand answers but they do not ever want to hear or stop for a moment for the resolution. they’re calling in for help yet they are now the expert when it comes to my policies and procedures, trying to tell me how to do my job when i am the best at my job. these are the difficult people in our lives, the know it all who truly know very little.

    #352067
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    Participant

    Why would I spend my time doing that? I’m sure you can do that yourself, as we all know you are magnificently proficient at copy and paste, I applaud you with sincerity. Hopefully you take that as a compliment.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    So it seams that i am not very mindful. Maybe you can help me out and recollect the questions and the responding answers.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Till now you could not answer a single question in your topic.

    Let me ask you another question:

    “What do you think is the reason, that somebody is not able to answer a question?”

    I just couldn’t help butt in, but really hanzze are you that dense? He just answered your questions, your questions are open ended and it has to do with abstract ideas that convey to one’s perspective and beliefs, just because he believes differently doesn’t mean that he didn’t answer your question, unless you are ignoring his answers and only wanting answers that conforms to your own thoughts and beliefs. /faceplam[/quote]
    [/quote]

    #352077
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    Anonymous

    The different between pity and compassion is that pity mostly ends very quick. Mostly as soon as it does not supports the satisfaction of the own person.

    Our friend answered as a reason for intention of this topic that is it a joy (fun) if he understands something. That is very wise and a good observation of the effects of real realizations. Searching for questions inside your self is the source of realization, so we are still on the way to make each other have real joy.

    Real joy of questions does not come by answering them, but by seeing the answers by one self. If a question makes us upset or frustrated is caused by still not understanding reality and still not found real joy.

    Relax and join *smile*

    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    Why would I spend my time doing that? I’m sure you can do that yourself, as we all know you are magnificently proficient at copy and paste, I applaud you with sincerity. Hopefully you take that as a compliment.
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    So it seams that i am not very mindful. Maybe you can help me out and recollect the questions and the responding answers.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Till now you could not answer a single question in your topic.

    Let me ask you another question:

    “What do you think is the reason, that somebody is not able to answer a question?”

    I just couldn’t help butt in, but really hanzze are you that dense? He just answered your questions, your questions are open ended and it has to do with abstract ideas that convey to one’s perspective and beliefs, just because he believes differently doesn’t mean that he didn’t answer your question, unless you are ignoring his answers and only wanting answers that conforms to your own thoughts and beliefs. /faceplam[/quote]
    [/quote]

    [/quote]

    #352087
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    bowang
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    imagination and creativity are just bits of different realities floating around in the overall digital Consciousness of the Infinite. we are able to tap into it, bringing forth revolutionary ideas, stories, etc. so reality and imagination may not be too far apart from each other. the key is to maintain a functioning reality, despite our vast imagination and or creativity. sometimes it’s hard because the world we live in our head seems even more real than the actual reality itself. some people get lost in their head becoming crazy, unable to operate in the real world. i think the hallmark of a stable reality is one which is not based solely on pure emotion with no sense of logic. its okay to have emotions, but to have it dictate our lives is borderline delusion. for example, i dont think you have ill will towards me hanzze. you are curious and this is you being you. you ask i answer. without you asking, i wouldnt have a chance to answer and share my ideas.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Another question:

    “Do you think that there could be a different of your imagination and the reality?”

    For example: You think that another person, responding on your topic is very emotional or maybe have any ill-will. But actually it is the total opposite.

    “So do you think it is possible that we are attached to our ideas (actually to our own emotions) much more as to reality and interpreted those into others?”

    “Do you think reality has something to do which personal emotions?”

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i wrk in sales/customer service so i handle tough questions, escalated issues, and concerns all day long. we have our fair share of tough customers. the emotional, irate, irrational ones. some customers have good reasons to be upset but they are still are able communicate effectively. i think this is a testament to their character and well being especially under conflicting situations . and then there are the difficult ones. they’re calling in due to minor problems, yet they would blow everything out of proportions, they would demand answers but they do not ever want to hear or stop for a moment for the resolution. they’re calling in for help yet they are now the expert when it comes to my policies and procedures, trying to tell me how to do my job when i am the best at my job. these are the difficult people in our lives, the know it all who truly know very little.

    [/quote]

    #352098
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    Anonymous

    Do you think there is something real in emotions?
    Do you think emotions are a source of peace?

    Do you think logical junctions will lead to reality?
    What is the source of your logical thinking? Could you think really logical if you have no real resources for reasoning?

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    imagination and creativity are just bits of different realities floating around in the overall digital Consciousness of the Infinite. we are able to tap into it, bringing forth revolutionary ideas, stories, etc. so reality and imagination may not be too far apart from each other. the key is to maintain a functioning reality, despite our vast imagination and or creativity. sometimes it’s hard because the world we live in our head seems even more real than the actual reality itself. some people get lost in their head becoming crazy, unable to operate in the real world. i think the hallmark of a stable reality is one which is not based solely on pure emotion with no sense of logic. its okay to have emotions, but to have it dictate our lives is borderline delusion. for example, i dont think you have ill will towards me hanzze. you are curious and this is you being you. you ask i answer. without you asking, i wouldnt have a chance to answer and share my ideas.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Another question:

    “Do you think that there could be a different of your imagination and the reality?”

    For example: You think that another person, responding on your topic is very emotional or maybe have any ill-will. But actually it is the total opposite.

    “So do you think it is possible that we are attached to our ideas (actually to our own emotions) much more as to reality and interpreted those into others?”

    “Do you think reality has something to do which personal emotions?”

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i wrk in sales/customer service so i handle tough questions, escalated issues, and concerns all day long. we have our fair share of tough customers. the emotional, irate, irrational ones. some customers have good reasons to be upset but they are still are able communicate effectively. i think this is a testament to their character and well being especially under conflicting situations . and then there are the difficult ones. they’re calling in due to minor problems, yet they would blow everything out of proportions, they would demand answers but they do not ever want to hear or stop for a moment for the resolution. they’re calling in for help yet they are now the expert when it comes to my policies and procedures, trying to tell me how to do my job when i am the best at my job. these are the difficult people in our lives, the know it all who truly know very little.

    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #352108
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    bowang
    Participant

    we have a spiritual and physical dimension to life. we also have the 2 sides of the brain. we depend on logic and emotion. we have man and woman. both having real and specific functions. they are connected, one needing the other. logic brings forth knowledge. emotions brings forth war and peace. we wouldnt exist without emotions because it was emotion which caused the fall. the fall is what’s fun in life. we may live without logic but it wouldnt be one with wisdom.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Do you think there is something real in emotions?
    Do you think emotions are a source of peace?

    Do you think logical junctions will lead to reality?
    What is the source of your logical thinking? Could you think really logical if you have no real resources for reasoning?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    imagination and creativity are just bits of different realities floating around in the overall digital Consciousness of the Infinite. we are able to tap into it, bringing forth revolutionary ideas, stories, etc. so reality and imagination may not be too far apart from each other. the key is to maintain a functioning reality, despite our vast imagination and or creativity. sometimes it’s hard because the world we live in our head seems even more real than the actual reality itself. some people get lost in their head becoming crazy, unable to operate in the real world. i think the hallmark of a stable reality is one which is not based solely on pure emotion with no sense of logic. its okay to have emotions, but to have it dictate our lives is borderline delusion. for example, i dont think you have ill will towards me hanzze. you are curious and this is you being you. you ask i answer. without you asking, i wouldnt have a chance to answer and share my ideas.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Another question:

    “Do you think that there could be a different of your imagination and the reality?”

    For example: You think that another person, responding on your topic is very emotional or maybe have any ill-will. But actually it is the total opposite.

    “So do you think it is possible that we are attached to our ideas (actually to our own emotions) much more as to reality and interpreted those into others?”

    “Do you think reality has something to do which personal emotions?”

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i wrk in sales/customer service so i handle tough questions, escalated issues, and concerns all day long. we have our fair share of tough customers. the emotional, irate, irrational ones. some customers have good reasons to be upset but they are still are able communicate effectively. i think this is a testament to their character and well being especially under conflicting situations . and then there are the difficult ones. they’re calling in due to minor problems, yet they would blow everything out of proportions, they would demand answers but they do not ever want to hear or stop for a moment for the resolution. they’re calling in for help yet they are now the expert when it comes to my policies and procedures, trying to tell me how to do my job when i am the best at my job. these are the difficult people in our lives, the know it all who truly know very little.

    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #352118
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    Anonymous

    What makes you believe that a man could not life without a wife and a wife not without a man?

    What makes you believe that emotions would lead to peace? Can you bring up only one emotion that does not lead to harming of others and one self?

    What makes you believe that logical thinking and reasoning brings you to some amount of reality?

    Can you quote one sentence where Jesus had taught his disciples that fun leads to peace? Or fun is the source of reality?

    [Message last modified 09-26-2011 02:56am by hanzze]

    #352128
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    khemrin
    Participant

    Please stop testing my patience :D

    WHO CREATED YOU?

    Please answer it properly.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    #352138
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    rasy
    Participant

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    jw interpretes the 144000 in the most literal sense like there are only 144000 of them literally all virgins. well i am married, obviously not a virgin since i have 2 kids and far from being jewish by birth. so according to the jw, i am a liar. well, i see it differently and my interpretation is from the spirit. the 144000, are scattered throughout the world. they are born again christians who may or may not be gentiles, who have been given signs and symbols, visions in regards to the end time. deep down we feel as though we are living in special times. we are prepped for some sort of duties in accordance with God’s will not fully known at the moment. God prepared us since birth and has sealed us when we’re ready at a certain age. for me it was when i was 23. God makes the proper provisioning in terms of providing the necessary knowledge and strength to assume some sort of role in the future.

    so rasy, i dont know if you are one of the 144000 or not. to believe you are one is to take a great leap of faith that is not logical and puts you in the crazy realm even to a fellow christian. i can only tell you from my experience that you just know so. the significance of your name is a sign. a sign can be something that only you could grasp and put together. y your life story, the yearning, the visions and dreams.

    here i share my witness to the cambodian people because God wants the cambodian people especially online to know about his soon to be Second Coming.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i do not belong to any denominations.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    are you a JW?[/quote]
    [/quote]

    where do you get your doctrine of u (bowang) being one of 144,000?
    am i rasy one of the 144,000?
    if i rasy am one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?
    if i rasy am not one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?[/quote]
    [/quote]

    so a lot of what you believe is your own personal interpretation. There is no doctrine, nor it is biblical to support you (bowang) are one of the 144,000. Your kids and your wife believes you are as well? You claim to have a personal conviction, or a personal encounter with God, and God revealed this to you. And your only response right now to my question I asked is “i can only tell you from my experience that you just know so”.

    I do not mean to offend, but if offending then so be it. I will be on the side of my athiest friends in KC and see you as crazy or borderline. And this is coming from a Christian. I really hope the best for you and hope you convey the true meaning and essence of the gospel to people. And that is Jesus dying on the cross for them and that His love is brings true joy. But starting off by saying your one of 144,000 sets a rocky foundation in developing realtionships with people. Making this claim you place yourself on the crazy realm, but you probably expected it and accepted it. But unfortunately when you dialoge with other KC non-believers ther is a lot of disrespect being exchanged. Even if you are 144,000 or not we are bound to the same bible. The bible makes it clear all things are for the purpose of His glory. I and you must answer that question and does all things that we do, or claim is really for the purpose of His glory or our own?

    [Message last modified 09-26-2011 05:46pm by rasy]

    #352156
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    bowang
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    you could live a life without a spouse and kid but it sure is fun to have them around. people don’t have sex with their husbands or wives in celebration for their love because it’s boring. there is some fun “sabai” involved that’s not only carnal but also spiritual. people celebrate birthdays for their kids because it’s a fun event, to see the joy on their kids face opening gifts. having fun and experiencing life with the ones you love ultimately bring forth knowledge and wisdom. jesus in one of the celebrations even turned water into wine! think about that. you could take this account literally or figuratively. the problem arises when people over indulge in their own carnality neglecting their spiritual responsibilities. much knowledge comes from walking the “dark” side but one must be careful when walking in such a territory because its very easy to fall prey due to the trappings and allures of the material world thus neglecting to hold fast to their spiritual anchor. there needs to be balance, like skillfully walking a tight rope. one must be mindful of his own limitation and potential.

    in regards to emotion, it is like a raging storm. it is destructive able to sink ships and destroy all in its path. however with the greatest of all storms there also comes the greatest of all peace. our emotions make us feel alive. we cry, we laugh, we are happy, and we are sad. it is not always a bad thing. dont take life too seriously, live it one moment at a time and God will do the rest. i too have to constantly remind myself this..

    Ecclesiastes 3:13
    And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.

    Matthew 25:21
    His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    What makes you believe that a man could not life without a wife and a wife not without a man?

    What makes you believe that emotions would lead to peace? Can you bring up only one emotion that does not lead to harming of others and one self?

    What makes you believe that logical thinking and reasoning brings you to some amount of reality?

    Can you quote one sentence where Jesus had taught his disciples that fun leads to peace? Or fun is the source of reality?

    [Message last modified 09-26-2011 02:56am by hanzze]

    [Message last modified 09-27-2011 06:27am by bowang]

    #352147
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    bowang
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    it’s not my fault you have the patience of a flea and the intellect of a snail. i told you already God created me. if that’s not good enough for you, too bad so sad?

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Please stop testing my patience :D

    WHO CREATED YOU?

    Please answer it properly.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    and i simply said I AM WHO I AM, i cant get anymore more simpler than that. next question please…

    [/quote]

    #352165
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    bowang
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    why would i be offended when i already knew you would think i’m crazy. how else would i have been able to say it when the mere mention of the 144000 within such context is in itself crazy talk. rasy, you have every right to not believe. however, i am not here to convince you otherwise because i have to take up my bold claim with the man upstairs and thats between me and Him. my intention is not to gain 12 disciples in order to start my own religion. i am a born again christian. i am sharing my witness with real conviction here because i have learned that being passive aggressive in the midst of the unbelievers doesnt get very far. Jesus was aggressive in the midst of the money changers. being a goody two shoes because its expected from me is unrealistic and pretentious. its been tried and doesnt work. it gains more disrespect than anything else because people are able to see right through your intention. i would rather be blunt and real about my faith instead of sugar coating it to be politically correct, conforming to a certain doctrine. the jews because of their indoctrination and inability to think outside the box are still waiting for their messiah when Christ was right there in front of them. yes, i do not belong to a certain denomination following a specific doctrine, like the jw or mormon for example. i speak from the heart guided by the spirit. i am self taught, never once attended bible studies. do not go to church on sundays. but that doest mean everything i have said is wrong or doesnt make any sense. or my faith is weak, or i am not a true christian like the regular church go-ers. Ramanujan was one of the greatest mathematician in history and he didnt have any formal trainings. would you say we have 4 pages worth of nonsense from a crazy man? or maybe there is something there? if you dont mind rasy, what denomination do you attend or belong to? are you anything like me?

    I have always defended Christ, giving the Lord full Glory since my conversion, road to damascus experience. it is what i do here on KC. i use to bash the christian with joy. now i dont post about anything else but about Christ and his Second Coming. it is my passion because i have seen it and have taken the leap of faith to believe it. i have written poems and stories praising the Lord for saving me. i am here to shed some light on some of the mysteries based on my own experiences. i think to share your own thought and experience is more genuine than talking about something you know little about just because you heard it through the grapevine. my discernments are not politically correct within the institution, i realize this. i can only hope my honesty comes through in my witness and conviction even to the non believers. its a bit sad that i am getting more of a dialogue from a buddhist who is willing to ask and answer than a fellow brother in Christ who has already condemn me, which is in itself a bold claim, but i somehow knew this already and i am okay with it.

    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]
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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    jw interpretes the 144000 in the most literal sense like there are only 144000 of them literally all virgins. well i am married, obviously not a virgin since i have 2 kids and far from being jewish by birth. so according to the jw, i am a liar. well, i see it differently and my interpretation is from the spirit. the 144000, are scattered throughout the world. they are born again christians who may or may not be gentiles, who have been given signs and symbols, visions in regards to the end time. deep down we feel as though we are living in special times. we are prepped for some sort of duties in accordance with God’s will not fully known at the moment. God prepared us since birth and has sealed us when we’re ready at a certain age. for me it was when i was 23. God makes the proper provisioning in terms of providing the necessary knowledge and strength to assume some sort of role in the future.

    so rasy, i dont know if you are one of the 144000 or not. to believe you are one is to take a great leap of faith that is not logical and puts you in the crazy realm even to a fellow christian. i can only tell you from my experience that you just know so. the significance of your name is a sign. a sign can be something that only you could grasp and put together. y your life story, the yearning, the visions and dreams.

    here i share my witness to the cambodian people because God wants the cambodian people especially online to know about his soon to be Second Coming.

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    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i do not belong to any denominations.

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    [i]Originally posted by rasy[/i]

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you were on one huh? never thought myself to be jesus. but i have reasons to think i am one of the 144,000. now that is a trip.

    are you a JW?[/quote]
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    where do you get your doctrine of u (bowang) being one of 144,000?
    am i rasy one of the 144,000?
    if i rasy am one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?
    if i rasy am not one of the 144,000 where do you get the doctrine to support this?[/quote]
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    so a lot of what you believe is your own personal interpretation. There is no doctrine, nor it is biblical to support you (bowang) are one of the 144,000. Your kids and your wife believes you are as well? You claim to have a personal conviction, or a personal encounter with God, and God revealed this to you. And your only response right now to my question I asked is “i can only tell you from my experience that you just know so”.

    I do not mean to offend, but if offending then so be it. I will be on the side of my athiest friends in KC and see you as crazy or borderline. And this is coming from a Christian. I really hope the best for you and hope you convey the true meaning and essence of the gospel to people. And that is Jesus dying on the cross for them and that His love is brings true joy. But starting off by saying your one of 144,000 sets a rocky foundation in developing realtionships with people. Making this claim you place yourself on the crazy realm, but you probably expected it and accepted it. But unfortunately when you dialoge with other KC non-believers ther is a lot of disrespect being exchanged. Even if you are 144,000 or not we are bound to the same bible. The bible makes it clear all things are for the purpose of His glory. I and you must answer that question and does all things that we do, or claim is really for the purpose of His glory or our own?

    [Message last modified 09-26-2011 05:46pm by rasy][/quote]

    [Message last modified 09-27-2011 07:35am by bowang]

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