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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]

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    I swear you have multiple personality disorder. If God is a absolute consciousness then of courses Jesus can claim to be it, there have been a lot of sages who have been in contact with this conciseness or sense of being and experienced it’s absoluteness, like Sri Ramana Maharshi.

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    Wohhh, now Jesus is even God. That could bring one to the thought that one him self is God. Do you think that could happen?

    The questions are not static, but the leaking seems so. I am always happy if you take a deep breath and the effort to explain it well. Maybe you try it again, without getting to much personal attached.

    The “I” – “You” thing is not really the message behind the religion, isn’t it? I am… Its all about God…

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 02:22am by hanzze]

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    At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality. *smile* Do you do that? Let me say, if you are a part of a bigger consciousness (which is actually a Hindu believe), how could you claim your self as an individual?

    That needs a lot of creativity and color. I am sure your are a good artist.[/quote]

    It seems hanzze has border line personality disorder. You’d think you’d be able to answer your own question, here I’ll give you a word “individuation”.

    Have you ever been in touch with the anima/amimus, well if you haven’t I suggest you take 10g of mushrooms. Don’t worry about tea, just eat em! I know that is a lot but it’s worth it. If you don’t get int ouch with the side of personality, the anima, or animus if your female, then you won’t ever reach the self.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 05:32am by Fuddyduddy]

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    So your personality and finding your self depends on mushrooms? A kind of mushroom-personality. The “I” likes to get in touch with the “I”.

    I am sure your have some serious creativity. “I am an person but I don’t know where or what it actually is. Mushrooms is my way to find my personality.”

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    your eastern buddhist khmer definition of GOD is not the same as the actual definition of GOD. you cant define and understand Christ using antichristian rhetoric. you are restricted. you cant find a way to be GOD or have desire to be GOD. we cant! that is eastern philosophy. GOD is absolute consciousness. we may only desire to be a part of HIM. we cant be a part of him since he is so great. the only way is to attach to his finite form or GOD incarnate, or first SON, JESUS.

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    *smile*

    Let me ask, why Jesus told the people to believe in God and not running around “I am God”?
    I am fully aware that to find a way to be God is a big human desire. *smile* Lets look further where it is leaking.

    So if that is the message one could believe that he needs to believe in him self, but whats going on with the devotion toward to God as this thought arises?

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    Before you have been a part of this consciousness, now you can not reach it. One time your are one time not. “The consciousness leads us but we are something different.” if that leaks “We are a part of God” if that leaks “Jesus is god” than Jesus is also a reincarnation of God, like Vishnu or some other Hindu gods. I dont think that western are that creative in this case.

    So maybe you have found some special ways, undeveloped till now.

    But maybe I am a mad listener. So please try to make it a little more complex for not so smart people like me.

    So who are you and who is god and what is your natural connection? Maybe I will understand more *smile*

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    So your personality and finding your self depends on mushrooms? A kind of mushroom-personality. The “I” likes to get in touch with the “I”.

    I am sure your have some serious creativity. “I am an person but I don’t know where or what it actually is. Mushrooms is my way to find my personality.”

    Yes, I didn’t think you’d get the answer. Mushroom causes boundary dissolution, the dissolving of the Ego, just like during death when DMT is released. No matter how many books you read, or how many mumbo jumbo statements you make about how thoughts arise and go, and it’s all illusion, you ego will always be intact to interact with the construct your call reality, and unless you ever learn to dissolve it you will never be in contact with something deeper to your existence that would make any of your knowledge and words have true experience of understanding or meaning.

    Tell me Hanzee, what is the personality?

    Oh, did you find out what individuation is? If not just ask and I will tell you.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 05:58am by Fuddyduddy]

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    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    But as I told you, maybe you make also such a topic.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:07am by hanzze]

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    You know hanzze, I use to be an idiot like you, thought I knew everything because I could of new found knowledge from Buddhist philosophy, then I realize that it didn’t mean shit If I never actually experienced it. The thing I admire about our Christian friends is that they have something that they believe in, something that they are in touch with that is greater then just words, or books, human concepts or theories, it is something that could only be experienced.

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    Was that the answer, or just a self refection?

    The topic is about asking our friend a question, he told us that it gives him a opportunity to spirituality and a spiritual joy. As for the questioner it could be just a way to understand more. So just face me as an idiot asking questions, that is ok.

    Compassion is up to you but its always a personality conflict and then it breaks down. *smile*

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy]

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Was that the answer, or just a self refection?

    The topic is about asking our friend a question, he told us that it gives him a opportunity to spirituality and a spiritual joy. As for the questioner it could be just a way to understand more. So just face me as an idiot asking questions, that is ok.

    Compassion is up to you but its always a personality conflict and then it breaks down. *smile*

    lol, you’re such a hypocrite, You aren’t trying to understand his answer, but enforce your own doctrine or dogma. If you would just think deeply, you could realize what Bowang beliefs has similarities with eastern philosophy.

    “In the world there are many different roads but the destination is the same. There are a hundred deliberations but the result is one.”

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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Was that the answer, or just a self refection?

    The topic is about asking our friend a question, he told us that it gives him a opportunity to spirituality and a spiritual joy. As for the questioner it could be just a way to understand more. So just face me as an idiot asking questions, that is ok.

    Compassion is up to you but its always a personality conflict and then it breaks down. *smile*

    lol, you’re such a hypocrite, You aren’t trying to understand his answer, but enforce your own doctrine or dogma. If you would just think deeply, you could realize what Bowang beliefs has similarities with eastern philosophy.

    “In the world there are many different roads but the destination is the same. There are a hundred deliberations but the result is one.” [/quote]

    Yes I know, Bowangs beliefs are a quite popular mix of Hindu and western thinking. I dont think that it is needed to think very deeply to find this out.

    Regarding the different roads, also yes as long this are roads and not rollercoaster. Rollercoaster give a lot of pleasure but will not come to any destination.
    But deliberations are like rollersoasters, one does not start to walk. *smile* Deliberations might bring some pleasure, brain gymnastic is not different from other sensual pleasure.

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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
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    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.

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    my views didn’t come from “hinduism”. they are strictly christian. when i have time later on tonight, i will reveal one of the greatest mysteries of them all to support my claim.

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]

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    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.[/quote]

    Do you even know what you say sometimes, at least try to be coherent. Confucius’s quote has to do with roads and not roller coaster. And, if you aren’t clear what deliberation means, it is to examine carefully, thoughtfulness in action or decision, mediating on a thought. The way you compare roller coaster to deliberation it doesn’t make any sense when using it in the context of the quote, or it’s definition. Confucius is saying that there are many ways or (roads) of reflecting on a thought or spiritual understanding, but they always lead to the same truth. He’s not saying there are many ways of meditating on a thought and they lead nowhere, because it’s only for sensual pleasures.

    I would think that a Buddhist practitioner like your self would be able to find the correlation between the process of Individuation and the Buddhist understanding of how a person evolves. You either didn’t read what I wrote, or you seem to fail to understand it. It has nothing to do with believing in personalities, it has to do with personal development that goes beyond the ego and deeper into other aspects of yourself.

    Enlightenment doesn’t occur from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality. –Carl Jung.

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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]

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    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.[/quote]

    Do you even know what you say sometimes, at least try to be coherent. Confucius’s quote has to do with roads and not roller coaster. And, if you aren’t clear what deliberation means, it is to examine carefully, thoughtfulness in action or decision, mediating on a thought. The way you compare roller coaster to deliberation it doesn’t make any sense when using it in the context of the quote, or it’s definition. Confucius is saying that there are many ways or (roads) of reflecting on a thought or spiritual understanding, but they always lead to the same truth. He’s not saying there are many ways of meditating on a thought and they lead nowhere, because it’s only for sensual pleasures.

    I would think that a Buddhist practitioner like your self would be able to find the correlation between the process of Individuation and the Buddhist understanding of how a person evolves. You either didn’t read what I wrote, or you seem to fail to understand it. It has nothing to do with believing in personalities, it has to do with personal development that goes beyond the ego and deeper into other aspects of yourself.

    Enlightenment doesn’t occur from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality. –Carl Jung.
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    So its some of a “devil-angle” reconciliation, remembers me also a little on the Hinduism worship on the Vishnu or the universal uniting of the opposite. Maybe Carl Jung came in touch with Hinduism to, you know that was quite popular since over 100 years in the west. We just need to access our dark side is very popular very, we just need enough ignorance, many compensations in daily life and not a little effort. So its quite better than all this heavy and continuously practicing.

    We also can put some Confucius into it, we will need some times of calm and silence and non-action as compensation. *smile* We could make a bespoke tailor – Online – we make you are personal religion shop. You just need to put into all your lazy habits and will get your personal religion. Maybe also with a maintenance option in different levels as some habits may change. So a one time in a month maintenance tool for open-minded and down to free of maintenance package for stubborn. Including personal hero rendering and integration in your personal religion logo and identity card. *smile* A personal zodiac and future telling tool could be sold additional.

    I guess we (or I) are to far away of asking our friend just questions *smile*
    As for de – liberation, it might be that it is a personal language problem. Let us think more about enlightenment *smile* I am sure we can rhyme some together to a nice and bright enlightenment.

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
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    I could not find any, so please enlighten me *smile*

    Individuation is the process of the being aware of oneself as a whole. Since you probably aren’t familiar with Carl Jung, I will explain to you that you consist of 5 personalities archetypes, the ego, the anima/animus, the shadow, the old wiseman or great mother. These archetypes arise from the collective unconsciousness that we all share. Individuation is the process of integrating these persona together,

    The process starts with the being aware or conscious of the persona or ego. then being aware of the shadow which is the repressed aspects of the ego, then the animus, or anima, then the old wise man or great mother, then the self. Once you have experienced and integrated these persona then you experience what Carl Jung coined as Transcendent function, which is the realization of the unity of all persona’s of the self, Enlightenment.

    So, when you tell me “At a deeper meaning you are right, I would not take my self as a personality”, then that would mean to me you have not gotten far in the process of Enlightenment.

    Oh by the way, i didn’t make that up. You might want to go to your nearest university and take some psychology courses. The reason I agree with the Psychiatrist Carl Jung’s idea of the archetypes because I have experienced them for myself during my travels through hyperspace.

    [Message last modified 10-10-2011 06:47am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Here we go, maybe we can mix the Jung thesis with Hindu and Christianity, or we pick just the “I” supporting elements out of all this thesis and make something new. *smile* Maybe we should also but our favorite movie star into our worldview.

    So you think a big believe in a personality makes one walk a way to enlightenment and peace? *smile* Nice ideas, I am sure you can explain them in more detail.[/quote]

    Do you even know what you say sometimes, at least try to be coherent. Con*!#@^#’s quote has to do with roads and not roller coaster. And, if you aren’t clear what deliberation means, it is to examine carefully, thoughtfulness in action or decision, mediating on a thought. The way you compare roller coaster to deliberation it doesn’t make any sense when using it in the context of the quote, or it’s definition. Con*!#@^# is saying that there are many ways or (roads) of reflecting on a thought or spiritual understanding, but they always lead to the same truth. He’s not saying there are many ways of meditating on a thought and they lead nowhere, because it’s only for sensual pleasures.

    I would think that a Buddhist practitioner like your self would be able to find the correlation between the process of Individuation and the Buddhist understanding of how a person evolves. You either didn’t read what I wrote, or you seem to fail to understand it. It has nothing to do with believing in personalities, it has to do with personal development that goes beyond the ego and deeper into other aspects of yourself.

    Enlightenment doesn’t occur from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality. –Carl Jung.
    [/quote]

    So its some of a “devil-angle” reconciliation, remembers me also a little on the Hinduism worship on the Vishnu or the universal uniting of the opposite. Maybe Carl Jung came in touch with Hinduism to, you know that was quite popular since over 100 years in the west. We just need to access our dark side is very popular very, we just need enough ignorance, many compensations in daily life and not a little effort. So its quite better than all this heavy and continuously practicing.

    We also can put some Con*!#@^# into it, we will need some times of calm and silence and non-action as compensation. *smile* We could make a bespoke tailor – Online – we make you are personal religion shop. You just need to put into all your lazy habits and will get your personal religion. Maybe also with a maintenance option in different levels as some habits may change. So a one time in a month maintenance tool for open-minded and down to free of maintenance package for stubborn. Including personal hero rendering and integration in your personal religion logo and identity card. *smile* A personal zodiac and future telling tool could be sold additional.

    I guess we (or I) are to far away of asking our friend just questions *smile*
    As for de – liberation, it might be that it is a personal language problem. Let us think more about enlightenment *smile* I am sure we can rhyme some together to a nice and bright enlightenment.

    [/quote]

    I’m sorry, but I just have to chuckle. I have no idea what you just said. However, I was able to make out some sort of coherent jabber out of that gibberish you just spewed. But, it isn’t enough to warrant any sort of refute, because again, I have no idea what you are trying to imply, it’s almost like I just got attacked by a retard, and I’m just in awe of what to do.

    Oh, by the way Carl Jun is noted for introducing Buddhism to western thinkers, please do your research.

    [Message last modified 10-11-2011 01:03am by Fuddyduddy]

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    I thought so (regarding Carl), the first wave of Buddha Dhamma was more a Hindu thing *smile* Some even take there logo modified it a little an walked out for a different kind of missionary. Pretty dangerous such mixes. Therefore many wise man in the past wanted there disciples to let go of old concepts first before they would introduce them to some new stuff.

    So the west got east and the east got west. Some important things git lost in between.

    Its like the man attracted to the wife and the wife attracted to the men. Always more attractive as to understand and except one self first. Now let us strive for aggregation… we would not that busy with our self. *smile*

    Its like in Cambodia, you will not easy find a monk who does not study some “Train your mind books” of some western psychologists or “You can” – magician. Even the treasure is some meters next to them. It doesn’t seems good, as it does not fit to the wrong views. *smile*

    If some very first discoveries of Buddhism in the west of the last century are useful to make a little step into it, is it a great thing. We love to make our own philosophies, it keeps us existing and gives us a feeling of unity of or self. So it can grow.

    Wish you didn’t not fall into to much worry and seriousness already *smile*

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    I thought so (regarding Carl), the first wave of Buddha Dhamma was more a Hindu thing *smile* Some even take there logo modified it a little an walked out for a different kind of missionary. Pretty dangerous such mixes. Therefore many wise man in the past wanted there disciples to let go of old concepts first before they would introduce them to some new stuff.

    So the west got east and the east got west. Some important things git lost in between.

    Its like the man attracted to the wife and the wife attracted to the men. Always more attractive as to understand and except one self first. Now let us strive for aggregation… we would not that busy with our self. *smile*

    Its like in Cambodia, you will not easy find a monk who does not study some “Train your mind books” of some western psychologists or “You can” – magician. Even the treasure is some meters next to them. It doesn’t seems good, as it does not fit to the wrong views. *smile*

    If some very first discoveries of Buddhism in the west of the last century are useful to make a little step into it, is it a great thing. We love to make our own philosophies, it keeps us existing and gives us a feeling of unity of or self. So it can grow.

    Wish you didn’t not fall into to much worry and seriousness already *smile*

    I must applaud you for actually responding with something understandable, I hope you keep it that way, it’s easier to communicate with. There has probably been many things lost in Buddhism since the Buddhas death. Buddhism suffers the same thing Christianity does, and that is decaying of its teachings. The Pali Cannon, like Jesus words, the pali cannon aren’t the direct words of the Buddha, but past down oral recites of Buddhas teaching, as well as teachings of his disciple, and not to mentioned that it was written after 300years after his death, I’m sure a lot of truths were lost in the translation. So please don’t consider any sort of Buddhist doctrine taught by a Buddhist to be the actual words of Buddha. It goes for everything else, either Carl Jung, or Jesus, or Plato, nothing is absolute things change when you’re playing the telephone game.

    Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good.

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    Thanks for your compassionate words *smile*, well it is not about that there are words missing but it is more that we have a lot of preconception to word. And for the quote, the Dhamma (truth, god…) is to be found in one self you are right. But to enter this point, one needs somebody who makes him seeing his own defilement.
    You can not trust your self all the time, that might change if one enters the stream. *smile*

    Just be mindful, it not about words.

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    God’s plan is perfect, if there is a fall, there must also be ascension. so when adam and eve ate from the tree of knowledge. God already knew and seeded the tree of life into adams own lineage. during those spiritual time, the plan of salvation was even told, written in the stars to adam and passed down to his children. you have the zodiac telling the story of the virgin birth and ending with leo. you have the great sphinx pointing to israel, with the head of a woman and the body of a lion reminding the world of the start and end of the prophecies, this is the great mystery solved. the builders were preserving the story of Christ, without even knowing it, simply passing it down through their secret inner circle. the story of christ, the prophecies were passed down and eventually diluted to different messianic myths throughout the many great civilizations. what you know as, vedic knowledge, gnosticism, science stemmed from the corruption of the one true knowledge, that of the Holy Spirit. so when you notice the similarities, it is because everything came from Christ who was there at the beginning and also at the end.

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Thanks for your compassionate words *smile*, well it is not about that there are words missing but it is more that we have a lot of preconception to word. And for the quote, the Dhamma (truth, god…) is to be found in one self you are right. But to enter this point, one needs somebody who makes him seeing his own defilement.
    You can not trust your self all the time, that might change if one enters the stream. *smile*

    Just be mindful, it not about words.

    The quote is from the Buddha. It wasn’t to argue anything, it was to see a point.

    “Well it is not about that there are words missing but it is more that we have a lot of preconception to word” “Just be mindful, it not about words”.

    Exactly, so the chain of preconception of Buddhas words decays the teachings.It’s called interpretation. If it is not for words and language, would you understand what you are thinking, or can you convey to me an idea, or thought? Language helps manifest and communicate thought, A change in language can transform our apprehension of the Cosmos.

    [Message last modified 10-11-2011 05:17am by Fuddyduddy]

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    i didnt come up with this but he wanted people to spread the knowledge and i am doing my part to the khmer people.

    http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28871-greatest-geographic-evidence-world-has-ever-known-5.html#post563196

    the guy who recently discovered this, is a genius. he must have gotten it from God. this is mind blowing stuff. those with eyes and ears, hear and see. one of the mysteries revealed.

    .

    [Message last modified 10-11-2011 05:13am by bowang]

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    God’s plan is perfect, if there is a fall, there must also be ascension. so when adam and eve ate from the tree of knowledge. God already knew and seeded the tree of life into adams own lineage. during those spiritual time, the plan of salvation was even told, written in the stars to adam and passed down to his children. you have the zodiac telling the story of the virgin birth and ending with leo. you have the great sphinx pointing to israel, with the head of a woman and the body of a lion reminding the world of the start and end of the prophecies, this is the great mystery solved. the builders were preserving the story of Christ, without even knowing it, simply passing it down through their secret inner circle. the story of christ, the prophecies were passed down and eventually diluted to different messianic myths throughout the many great civilizations. what you know as, vedic knowledge, gnosticism, science stemmed from the corruption of the one true knowledge, that of the Holy Spirit. so when you notice the similarities, it is because everything came from Christ who was there at the beginning and also at the end.

    Boooowang, I was waiting nearly a day, full of excitement of your proposal to enlighten us with your achievements when you have time at night. Now this… That was not the last thing we had talked about.

    Please more effort even it is hard sometimes! *smile*

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i didnt come up with this but he wanted people to spread the knowledge and i am doing my part to the khmer people.

    http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28871-greatest-geographic-evidence-world-has-ever-known-5.html#post563196

    the guy who recently discovered this, is a genius. he must have gotten it from God. this is mind blowing stuff. those with eyes and ears, hear and see. one of the mysteries revealed.

    Ohhh, I guess it is not our choice if we are capable to understand or to believe. You know he did not made us to understand. Don’t know why *smile* Maybe to show his compassion in doing some extraordinary. What sense would a god make if all are happy, well and united.

    So is he a genius or is it given by God? Who acts?

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    until next time. gnight.

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    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]
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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Thanks for your compassionate words *smile*, well it is not about that there are words missing but it is more that we have a lot of preconception to word. And for the quote, the Dhamma (truth, god…) is to be found in one self you are right. But to enter this point, one needs somebody who makes him seeing his own defilement.
    You can not trust your self all the time, that might change if one enters the stream. *smile*

    Just be mindful, it not about words.

    The quote is from the Buddha. It wasn’t to argue anything, it was to see a point.

    “Well it is not about that there are words missing but it is more that we have a lot of preconception to word” “Just be mindful, it not about words”.

    Exactly, so the chain of preconception of Buddhas words decays the teachings.It’s called interpretation. If it is not for words and language, would you understand what you are thinking, or can you convey to me an idea, or thought? Language helps manifest and communicate thought, A change in language can transform our apprehension of the Cosmos.

    [Message last modified 10-11-2011 05:17am by Fuddyduddy][/quote]

    Today that is called spiritual materialism. I guess it is normal that we look at the hand rather than to look where the finger is pointing to.
    The special thing at Dhamma is that there is nothing special and everybody who proves sayings by one self would see if they are right or wrong.
    So it is not possible the change the Dhamma in any way. It might be that there a fogy times, but if there are clouds, it does not mean, that there is no sun behind.

    A change in language is a manifest of consciousness. Who cars about language and words today? So how would it be possible to understand.

    I could not find any real different in reading different translations of some suttas. The message is the same. People can write books of comparison of two translations. What ever we choose to do when we are bored.

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