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  • #365467
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    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang]

    #365477
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    khemrin
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    Bowang, now that you have kids on your own, you understand how your parents feel about you. The sacrifice,the unconditional love, the selflessness that they were to you, so you can be what you are here today. They have been your the god of almighty gods out there whom you would have never seen in your life time. They are real, their existence is also real.

    Lolz I hope I have mother who can tell me that, when I am lost or a strayed off my path. Your mother is very smart woman. She know wrong when she sees one. She know right when she sees one. It is the knowledge imbedded in her natural instinct. That gave her the ability to act or not to act, response or not response, to move fofrward or backward in a danger situation, so you are here today, alive and well, with two great kids and a beautiful wife today. Not because she did not understand, but understood she was so well, and her love and compassion is so strong that compel her to utter a honest assessment of your condition in which she saw fit, honestly as mother, and grandmother of your beloved children.

    That is not true of your feeling about your parents, especially when you misunderstood the mathew in your thread about gratitude… It is also hard to believe that you are more compassion toward your parents now, as Christian than when you were Buddhist. It is one of the cornerstone of Buddhism that one must respect and reciprocate the compassion and unconditional love to your parents. It is even said that the first god is your parents.

    Honestly though, I think you are on the right track, bro. Your thought and tone is more in synch, I appreciate that.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang][/quote]

    #365487
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
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    i am going to be honest with you, i dont have to but i think its well worth it to show you how serious i am about my faith. i dont doubt my parents love for me, however they didnt know how to express love to their children. its like getting cold soup when you are sick. i understand it’s because they were not showered with affection themselves growing up, the culture of the time i guess. they in turn are just continuing a cycle passed down to them. i dont know if this is a cultural thing or just mine but from my observation while living in oakland, khmer parents from that generation lacked the ability to show love, you know like hugs and kisses etc. i saw it in my family and several of my friends family as well. i believe as children we need that affection and not just words (pradao) to fully mature and flourish. now that i have kids of my own, i am breaking this cycle. my affection is my children not just in words but in actions. this is just one example. something i have learned inspired greatly from the message of Christ.

    my parents were not educated, country folks, damaged people from all of the traumas they went through. they’re survivors like many khmer parents. i am the result inheriting many flaws as well. but i am from a different generation able to see a little more in introspection living in a land where there’s more opportunities for learning, knowledge, knowing whats right and wrong. not just reactive to my environment but also constructive in self improvement. so i do not judge my parents because i know this. i have a lot of sympathy for them. i do have gratitude for their sacrifices. however i believe in being better than them not just enough to keep them happy. i want my children to be better than me too especially if i am wrong. i want them to be able to tell me, for us to communicate our differences.

    so when my parents were wrong with facts due to their preconceived ideas what was told to them or handling of situation, question of morality, there were many instances. i was the son who had the gut to speak out and get into fights and arguments with them. i remember telling my dad its wrong to be racist against black people simply because we lived in the ghetto and they were picking on us. stuff like this. when i learned something from school about science or politics for example, i would educate them, they would resist and argue with me. said i was crazy, baik chwaeng, a bad son for believing all of this and not them. i was dishonoring them because they are preah as told by the buddha etc. i know all of this, my parents were very traditional. i didnt back down because i knew i was right and they were wrong. they didnt know any better. i was unwilling to sweep things under the rug just to appease their ignorance. i dont think that was wrong of me. i did the right thing. it wasnt easy. i wanted to communicate to improve. i mean how else are you going to improve if you dont explain it. the rest is up to them. i even talked about love and affection etc. i guess it was too much for them to handle. they didnt have the background to understand or appreciate any of these things on a deeper level on not just the surface level.

    nevertheless i am thankful for my parents, and i love them more than words can say. its deep. its not all sugary. its bittersweet. imperfect perfection i call it. other people have parents who were gamblers, alcoholics etc and they too deserve our love. however you got to ask yourself, if your parents are not well are you going to be complacent about it, an accomplice? are you going to pretend everything is well or go against them if you must in order to heal or help yourself in the long run from the toxic mess ? i chose the latter

    i have compassion for my parents. love them dearly. do not be mistaken. but if my parents told me the earth was flat, i would disagree even if they wanted to disown me. they’ll come around is my prayer. i have nothing to be afraid of. I have truth by my side and God understands and consoles me. thats all i need. that’s why i have such a strong faith.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Bowang, now that you have kids on your own, you understand how your parents feel about you. The sacrifice,the unconditional love, the selflessness that they were to you, so you can be what you are here today. They have been your the god of almighty gods out there whom you would have never seen in your life time. They are real, their existence is also real.

    Lolz I hope I have mother who can tell me that, when I am lost or a strayed off my path. Your mother is very smart woman. She know wrong when she sees one. She know right when she sees one. It is the knowledge imbedded in her natural instinct. That gave her the ability to act or not to act, response or not response, to move fofrward or backward in a danger situation, so you are here today, alive and well, with two great kids and a beautiful wife today. Not because she did not understand, but understood she was so well, and her love and compassion is so strong that compel her to utter a honest assessment of your condition in which she saw fit, honestly as mother, and grandmother of your beloved children.

    That is not true of your feeling about your parents, especially when you misunderstood the mathew in your thread about gratitude… It is also hard to believe that you are more compassion toward your parents now, as Christian than when you were Buddhist. It is one of the cornerstone of Buddhism that one must respect and reciprocate the compassion and unconditional love to your parents. It is even said that the first god is your parents.

    Honestly though, I think you are on the right track, bro. Your thought and tone is more in synch, I appreciate that.

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang][/quote]
    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-28-2012 03:11am by bowang]

    #365496
    Avatar of kimpirun98
    kimpirun98
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    Bowang ha,

    Do you want me to reveal your real name infront the public on KC…???
    mannn Im a nice guy and help to protect your reputation, because I dont want someone to recognize who you are…
    You should understand that Im your partner in Church, im a quiet man in Church but Im talking alot on KC. That is why you can not know who I am but i do know who you are in real life…you have to count on what I said.

    Im very interested to be a Church member for all my life, but I dislike when a Priest asked me for 25% of my income. That is too much!!!! But I can donate to Church as much as I want, please dont put a rule to me by donation 25% of salary.

    Do you see another Religions force their followers have to donate 25% or whatever????

    [Message last modified 05-28-2012 07:52am by kimpirun98]

    #365505
    Avatar of bowang
    bowang
    Participant

    why dont you do us all a favor and reveal who i am. not just 25 percents but 100 percents. i dont care, it would be good..

    #365515
    Avatar of khemrin
    khemrin
    Participant

    First of all, I think you are educated enough to diagnose your parents flaw quite accurately. For whatever you have done, from what i gather, you have inherited this strong will and tenacious from either your dad or from your mom. It is also natural when a son grew up to be a man, or teenager, would usual clash with their parents frequently. And the younger one would usually blame the older folks for being of of date, old time, traditional, or uneducated. It was just fifteen years ago, the same person who accused their parents of the very crime that they are now accused by their son or daughter. I call it a generational war, the war to
    Prove who is more right, the older idea(the land line) or the cordless…and the argument will go on, the push button laughed at the rotary, the cordless laugh at the landline. What these combatants have forgotten is the fact that they are still serve the same principle of delivering the messages, and communication. Now you tell me who is more right,or should we laugh at rotary dial? Should the iPad 4 laugh at its predecessor, for now it is equipped with Chinese chip?

    Again, thanks for accurately diagnosed your parents and so do many other Khmer folks who went through such horrible time of their lives. I think no human being have went through what Khmer went through and sacrifice for so many, so we can have peace, freedom and education. They re damaged and traumatized beyond words to describe it. The war with the French. The war with the viet. The war with American. The American carpet bombing. The KR atrocious regime. If it were American, we would have many years of psychotherapy, and countless sessions of support to rebuild their traumatized state of mind. What did these Khmer folks get for all that? They were considered to be lucky to be alive for one, and then fortunate to be selected to go the third world countries, with barely clothes on their back and precious cargo, their children in tow, to the land they had never knew…when they landed, they were confused, no language, every thing different, culture shock, worst yet they have their own kid, now grown up, educated in western school tell them that they are wrong, everything about them is wrong. Their social, cultural and religious practices are all wrong and flaws.The way they show genuine love is wrong. Even the way they breathe is also wrong.

    Now instead of understanding their flight of fragility and vulnerability, and try to help through their difficulty, and nurture their fragile state of mind, you attack them, in every chance you got. You are too eager to show off your education and knowledge, the Chinese chip. You have the gut to speak out against your father racist against black, but you can’t find the courage to denounce christian god cruelty and racist. Perhaps he was just being protective of his children, and not racist against any particular race. It is an unwritten rule, in any gathering of family and friends, regardless of what the bibles writers wrote, never ever talk about religion or politic. Never mind with your parents. Win or lose, what is our point of scoring with yor own dad, is it enjoyable to see your dad being humiliated? It is not a matter of principle at that point, but it is a matter of common courtesy, and polite toward another human being, if not your father. Would to shout down another man on the street, if you know that’s he is “wrong”? If you are that conscious, I would not surprise to see you would burst out against most of what were written in the bibles. More than what I do here. The amount of ridiculous, irrational, neglecting, abused, ignorance about women place in society, and cruelty committed by christian god, from the garden of Eden to Jesus crucifixion. Your soul would beg your conscience to not forsaken and denounce your root and your parents and condemned them.

    I hope your last paragraph is from your sincere heart. And on behalf of your parents, I thank you.

    However, from the day of the first apple roles their first table top to now iPad four, there is no denying of the fact that the DNA of the first apple will ever be remain the instrumental part of apple success or failure of the future.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]

    nevertheless i am thankful for my parents, and i love them more than words can say. its deep. its not all sugary. its bittersweet. imperfect perfection i call it. other people have parents who were gamblers, alcoholics etc and they too deserve our love. however you got to ask yourself, if your parents are not well are you going to be complacent about it, an accomplice? are you going to pretend everything is well or go against them if you must in order to heal or help yourself in the long run from the toxic mess ? i chose the latter

    i have compassion for my parents. love them dearly. do not be mistaken. but if my parents told me the earth was flat, i would disagree even if they wanted to disown me. they’ll come around is my prayer. i have nothing to be afraid of. I have truth by my side and God understands and consoles me. thats all i need. that’s why i have such a strong faith.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Bowang, now that you have kids on your own, you understand how your parents feel about you. The sacrifice,the unconditional love, the selflessness that they were to you, so you can be what you are here today. They have been your the god of almighty gods out there whom you would have never seen in your life time. They are real, their existence is also real.

    Lolz I hope I have mother who can tell me that, when I am lost or a strayed off my path. Your mother is very smart woman. She know wrong when she sees one. She know right when she sees one. It is the knowledge imbedded in her natural instinct. That gave her the ability to act or not to act, response or not response, to move fofrward or backward in a danger situation, so you are here today, alive and well, with two great kids and a beautiful wife today. Not because she did not understand, but understood she was so well, and her love and compassion is so strong that compel her to utter a honest assessment of your condition in which she saw fit, honestly as mother, and grandmother of your beloved children.

    That is not true of your feeling about your parents, especially when you misunderstood the mathew in your thread about gratitude… It is also hard to believe that you are more compassion toward your parents now, as Christian than when you were Buddhist. It is one of the cornerstone of Buddhism that one must respect and reciprocate the compassion and unconditional love to your parents. It is even said that the first god is your parents.

    Honestly though, I think you are on the right track, bro. Your thought and tone is more in synch, I appreciate that.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang][/quote]
    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-28-2012 03:11am by bowang][/quote]

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