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  • #364976
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    bowang
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    you know crap about history, religions, science just to name a few. in politics you may know a bit of what they teach you in liberalism 101 like thousand of other useful idiots. but you wouldnt know truth if it hits you upside the head.

    so again, you never answered your own question on why and how israel won that quick war…..we are still waiting for a good laugh..

    #364985
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    In my first reply to your quote, I stated:

    “Israel was created by the supper powers to fulfil the prophecy, and would do anything to ensure the survival of israel, even if. It meant the complete destruction of every soul on earth. Since such failure would mean the failure of Christianity and western civilization itself.”

    And here you are trying catch me by the tail, or more obviously running around chasing the tail, by asking me the very question that I asked you clarify, if you know how did israel actually win that war…

    It was you, in your thread, proclaimed of how the almighty secured the win for Israel in that war. That was really bothering me, that I had no choice, but respond. Not because I want to win anything, but just to do some justice for the innocent god, and save Jesus from being embarrassing and thus humiliating implication.

    You see, I told my Jew friend the same. I would like to think that thing happened randomly, as cause and effect of nature. Whether it be natural disaster or war, or earth quake, war win or lost, as result of our action and reaction, the shift of political or economical alliance, the relationship that was of religious, national, racial, or regional bond that change the landscape or the outcome of war. To think this way, it is easy for one to excuse each other of their fault or mistake, like what france and germany and England, the us, are able to do, and move on. But to put god at the center of such a charged and sensitive issue like that of Arabs and Israel, taking the outcome of the war into consideration, it is a big mistake. Not only you are misrepresenting the fact, and therefore falsify the attribution, to ligimitimize the non existence, one is also pitching one god against the other, and thus the religious war, and the war of attrition. The idea that my god more powerful than your god is then just unacceptable. Now you are playing with the very heart and soul of human being. And that is a BIG NO NO.

    Do you see your other end of extreme(cousin)preaching about Allah in here? This end of extreme, like yours,,either they both have no problem with us, of non alliance of Abraham or Abrahim religion, or we are irritated by both of you, just like what I am here. How could that be for us to understand such shallowness made it so difficult, so policialized to polarize for the sake of a few? Considering that both Christianity and Islam copied from the same Torah…

    Then such incredible can only be concluded it this way: there can only one truth, with many lies, or there can only one lies, with many truths. In either case, there is not enough ground nor foundation to be sustainable. And that why, my friends, the war will go on.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    you know crap about history, religions, science just to name a few. in politics you may know a bit of what they teach you in liberalism 101 like thousand of other useful idiots. but you wouldnt know truth if it hits you upside the head.

    so again, you never answered your own question on why and how israel won that quick war…..we are still waiting for a good laugh..

    [Message last modified 05-19-2012 04:49am by khemrin]

    #364995
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    the quote was about israel winning the 6 days war. we just want to know how and why they won that war so quickly since they had less soldiers, guns, and little or no support from any super powers. it was a miraculous victory and here you keep on believing on conspiracies like how israel was somehow propped up to win. dude, they went at it alone and won on 3 fronts in 6 days. explain that sherlock. even if not a miracle to you, they won it fair and square so why hate?

    #365006
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    khemrin
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    This is beginning to be hilarious.

    Bowang, how did the the Brit won the war with argentina? Was it miracle too. How did the the viet don’t win the war against the us, when they were against all odds, American massive firepower, resources and capacity? Another miracle? You make laugh, so hard. How did the viet win the war against KR, in just wo week? Another miracle? How did the Japanese occupy china, when china is much bigger? Another miracle for you?

    I can go and on about your so called “miracle.”

    But here is something that might pop your balloon of miracle. Without American, the Brit, and other Christian nation support, they would never exist today. The creation was and the ongoing to support is to fulfil the prophecy. Does that clear to you now?

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    the quote was about israel winning the 6 days war. we just want to know how and why they won that war so quickly since they had less soldiers, guns, and little or no support from any super powers. it was a miraculous victory and here you keep on believing on conspiracies like how israel was somehow propped up to win. dude, they went at it alone and won on 3 fronts in 6 days. explain that sherlock. even if not a miracle to you, they won it fair and square so why hate?

    #365014
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    You guys are funny, did you know that? *smile* Do you really have so less ideas about your real problems to waste so much energy on brain and ideas gymnastic?

    #365023
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    bowang
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    who said anything about the creation of israel? thats another topic. it only took thousand of years, many empires, friends but mostly foes, super powers “conspiring” to create modern day israel according to your silly logic. we’re talking about the 6 day war here. fine you dont like the word miracle. write a letter to webster asking them to remove it from the english dictionary like how iran wants israel wiped off the map. so you would agree that israel won that war fair and square on their own? if so why bring up their creation within this context. its irrelevent and only shows your contempt for israel and the word “miraculous”. you are infact using the same logic and arguement as those (islam) calling for the destruction of israel. see you got caught red handed but you dont even realize it.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]
    This is beginning to be hilarious.

    Bowang, how did the the Brit won the war with argentina? Was it miracle too. How did the the viet don’t win the war against the us, when they were against all odds, American massive firepower, resources and capacity? Another miracle? You make laugh, so hard. How did the viet win the war against KR, in just wo week? Another miracle? How did the Japanese occupy china, when china is much bigger? Another miracle for you?

    I can go and on about your so called “miracle.”

    But here is something that might pop your balloon of miracle. Without American, the Brit, and other Christian nation support, they would never exist today. The creation was and the ongoing to support is to fulfil the prophecy. Does that clear to you now?

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    the quote was about israel winning the 6 days war. we just want to know how and why they won that war so quickly since they had less soldiers, guns, and little or no support from any super powers. it was a miraculous victory and here you keep on believing on conspiracies like how israel was somehow propped up to win. dude, they went at it alone and won on 3 fronts in 6 days. explain that sherlock. even if not a miracle to you, they won it fair and square so why hate?

    [/quote]

    #365033
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    “And how is one made pure in four ways by verbal action?

    “There is the case where a certain person, abandoning false speech, abstains from false speech. When he has been called to a town meeting, a group meeting, a gathering of his relatives, his guild, or of the royalty, if he is asked as a witness, ‘Come & tell, good man, what you know’: If he doesn’t know, he says, ‘I don’t know.’ If he does know, he says, ‘I know.’ If he hasn’t seen, he says, ‘I haven’t seen.’ If he has seen, he says, ‘I have seen.’ Thus he doesn’t consciously tell a lie for his own sake, for the sake of another, or for the sake of any reward. Abandoning false speech, he abstains from false speech. He speaks the truth, holds to the truth, is firm, reliable, no deceiver of the world.

    “Abandoning divisive speech he abstains from divisive speech. What he has heard here he does not tell there to break those people apart from these people here. What he has heard there he does not tell here to break these people apart from those people there. Thus reconciling those who have broken apart or cementing those who are united, he loves concord, delights in concord, enjoys concord, speaks things that create concord.

    “Abandoning abusive speech, he abstains from abusive speech. He speaks words that are soothing to the ear, that are affectionate, that go to the heart, that are polite, appealing & pleasing to people at large.

    “Abandoning idle chatter, he abstains from idle chatter. He speaks in season, speaks what is factual, what is in accordance with the goal, the Dhamma, & the Vinaya. He speaks words worth treasuring, seasonable, reasonable, circumscribed, connected with the goal.

    “This is how one is made pure in four ways by verbal action.”

    — AN 10.176

    because:

    “And how is right view the forerunner? One discerns wrong speech as wrong speech, and right speech as right speech. And what is wrong speech? Lying, divisive tale-bearing, abusive speech, & idle chatter. This is wrong speech…

    “One tries to abandon wrong speech & to enter into right speech: This is one’s right effort. One is mindful to abandon wrong speech & to enter & remain in right speech: This is one’s right mindfulness. Thus these three qualities — right view, right effort, & right mindfulness — run & circle around right speech.”

    — MN 117

    and therefore:

    “Whereas some brahmans and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to talking about lowly topics such as these — talking about kings, robbers, ministers of state; armies, alarms, and battles; food and drink; clothing, furniture, garlands, and scents; relatives; vehicles; villages, towns, cities, the countryside; women and heroes; the gossip of the street and the well; tales of the dead; tales of diversity [philosophical discussions of the past and future], the creation of the world and of the sea, and talk of whether things exist or not — he abstains from talking about lowly topics such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue.

    “Whereas some brahmans and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to debates such as these — ‘You understand this doctrine and discipline? I’m the one who understands this doctrine and discipline. How could you understand this doctrine and discipline? You’re practicing wrongly. I’m practicing rightly. I’m being consistent. You’re not. What should be said first you said last. What should be said last you said first. What you took so long to think out has been refuted. Your doctrine has been overthrown. You’re defeated. Go and try to salvage your doctrine; extricate yourself if you can!’ — he abstains from debates such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue.”

    — DN 2

    Appamada friends, appamada!
    *smile*

    #365043
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    khemrin
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    Lolz Bowang,

    How can I simplify the answer to your miracle broom stick syndrome any better than those questions? You have been listening to the far right wing nut and Christian fundamentalists for too long. Take a peak, it is light. It is not that scary as you thought it would. You stay too long in the darkness of right wing nut and Christian fundamentalists. They must have fed you well. This is 2012 my friend, we don’t burn people based on their belief, or caged and shackled people based on the color of their skin. If you came to north America in the 1800, you would have been sent to build rail road or other hard labor, so you can die early, and thus shorten the chance of you having to reproduce your cell. Thanks to progressive and developed society, ,you are here with computer to preach and prove fairy tale to be an absolute truth. And miracle, does sometimes happen, and the Thoery of physics is wrong. For that part, you have tried too hard, out of fanatic, and delusion, or even worst misled by the more intelligent wicked ones, perhaps to serve their interest, may it be money, power or control.

    Then, let me reiterate(before hannzee LHAO) my point abot what Jesus would have wanted for his people in the region. He would have wanted nothing less than a complete peace and happiness, fair and just, respect and responsibility from all of his people, whether it be Arabs or Jew or whatever in the middle east. But as you can see, in the political deviant world, there ws and still is no room for people like Jesus, or me, in this exchange. Peolple like Jesus was and still is a threat to their interests, in every sense, political, economical and social exploitation. Sadly as you have read, he was killed at such early age, of nothing more than just wanting what was the est for his people: fair, just and peaceful coexistence. Sadly too, even in today, people are still killed and in danger, like those fought for justice and basic human right and fairness across the world from Africa, to asia, and Cambodia is no exception to those kind o brutality, that seen inflicted upon Jesus two thousand years ago. Because people like you and those who want to hang on to power and control, by hanging on to those primitive ideology of hate based on fundamental beliefs. The lack of cultural relativity, and thus become rigid, and hardened as they get older, so to prove something out of nothing. Here you are a classic pol pot and fundamentlis tactic by accusing me of being contempt for israel or support for the destruction of Israel. Where did I say that? Now you don’t have to give me the evidence, because pol pot could kill millions, without giving any evidences. I have nothing against Israel or do I care. I care about fairness and justice and basic human right for all people of the world. Just like Jesus did with his people in the region. I am careless if you are black, white, middle eastern, Asian or Mexican. If you are human beig and behave like ones, you deserve my hope, respect and admiration.

    So, then let me make one more point clear, one more time. It is the people like you, the fundamentalist, far right wing nuts who make god look bad. Who give god the bad wrap, by painting him as killer, irrational, bi polar, split personalit and mentally unstable, and last but least a racist. It is people like you who make Jesus irrelevant, by exploiting his teaching to polarize people, and put people lives in danger, especially Israel and Palestinian. Two of his people whom he would have wanted nothing but the best for them both.

    Now, it is good that you still read my thought and reply. I know you want to learn something new. Something relevant to what Jesus would have said and taught. That he was a good teacher, and led by Such example to his death, and yet somehow his students failed ever so miserably. Something that he would be proud, that he had done his job, to that end, but the wickedness of the later day saints who make him irrelevant. Something that god(if one were to exist) would have appreciated, and be exalted at the very thought that he had made the right choice, and not in misery of regret and sorrow, in retrospect.

    The question is, can you be part of that progressive idea, of which would be helpful to both Arabs and Israel and all the people in the region?

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    who said anything about the creation of israel? thats another topic. it only took thousand of years, many empires, friends but mostly foes, super powers “conspiring” to create modern day israel according to your silly logic. we’re talking about the 6 day war here. fine you dont like the word miracle. write a letter to webster asking them to remove it from the english dictionary like how iran wants israel wiped off the map. so you would agree that israel won that war fair and square on their own? if so why bring up their creation within this context. its irrelevent and only shows your contempt for israel and the word “miraculous”. you are infact using the same logic and arguement as those (islam) calling for the destruction of israel. see you got caught red handed but you dont even realize it.

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    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]
    This is beginning to be hilarious.

    Bowang, how did the the Brit won the war with argentina? Was it miracle too. How did the the viet don’t win the war against the us, when they were against all odds, American massive firepower, resources and capacity? Another miracle? You make laugh, so hard. How did the viet win the war against KR, in just wo week? Another miracle? How did the Japanese occupy china, when china is much bigger? Another miracle for you?

    I can go and on about your so called “miracle.”

    But here is something that might pop your balloon of miracle. Without American, the Brit, and other Christian nation support, they would never exist today. The creation was and the ongoing to support is to fulfil the prophecy. Does that clear to you now?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    the quote was about israel winning the 6 days war. we just want to know how and why they won that war so quickly since they had less soldiers, guns, and little or no support from any super powers. it was a miraculous victory and here you keep on believing on conspiracies like how israel was somehow propped up to win. dude, they went at it alone and won on 3 fronts in 6 days. explain that sherlock. even if not a miracle to you, they won it fair and square so why hate?

    [/quote]
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    #365052
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    khemrin
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    Bowang is our lost brother, and we should help him any way we can. I think my time is well spent. :)

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    You guys are funny, did you know that? *smile* Do you really have so less ideas about your real problems to waste so much energy on brain and ideas gymnastic?

    #365061
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    kimpirun98
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    Hey folks…

    i dun think its no-one able to see Buddha and God at all. Event the Science fight to apolo to the high sky…but they didnt have power to reach them.
    Because Buddha and God are the most power Human Being in this world, they are living in the very very far place that we human being cant reach there….

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