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    Friend, that is a simply psychological problem. Many had received so much help and support that they are finally not able to give the dept back.
    But rather to use their merits and show gratitude to whom it would make sense or use the possibility to lead a real good life to honor this, they seek for something else with is not able to make them worry.

    There was one good and real statement of our friend: “I am my own creator”, which has much true inside. If one would not have done well in the past, he would not have gained such great possibilities. But one is even the creator when it goes downward. If one even miss to honor his own past deed in a way to make something useful like to establish virtue, concentration and insight his old wholesome deeds will be gone faster as one might believe.

    If we do not understand the circle of gratitude and goodwill, we will also do not find a way out of this circle at least and our dept list will grow and grow and with it also the pain.

    It might help people who are very pride and unable to take part on the normal social life, that a god can be a place where they try to pay their dept back but even this could be just another excuse for an live devoted to one self and pride.

    May he see the door as every religion is able to lead one a little in the right direction, for a fool the best medicine would not work, he thinks he is smarter and is able to live without the support of endless beings he never had recognized.

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    That is so amazing conversation related to the Religions of both you Sir. Please keep continue debate it and make sure you sirs have to eat and drink some huh….in order taking some energy for individual…

    Im watching and reading it………

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    But we need Bowang. Lolz

    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    That is so amazing conversation related to the Religions of both you Sir. Please keep continue debate it and make sure you sirs have to eat and drink some huh….in order taking some energy for individual…

    Im watching and reading it………

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    May I tell you again? That Bowang would never get it, if you just beating the bush. :)

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Friend, that is a simply psychological problem. Many had received so much help and support that they are finally not able to give the dept back.
    But rather to use their merits and show gratitude to whom it would make sense or use the possibility to lead a real good life to honor this, they seek for something else with is not able to make them worry.

    There was one good and real statement of our friend: “I am my own creator”, which has much true inside. If one would not have done well in the past, he would not have gained such great possibilities. But one is even the creator when it goes downward. If one even miss to honor his own past deed in a way to make something useful like to establish virtue, concentration and insight his old wholesome deeds will be gone faster as one might believe.

    If we do not understand the circle of gratitude and goodwill, we will also do not find a way out of this circle at least and our dept list will grow and grow and with it also the pain.

    It might help people who are very pride and unable to take part on the normal social life, that a god can be a place where they try to pay their dept back but even this could be just another excuse for an live devoted to one self and pride.

    May he see the door as every religion is able to lead one a little in the right direction, for a fool the best medicine would not work, he thinks he is smarter and is able to live without the support of endless beings he never had recognized.

    #365310
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    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

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    Friend, from experiences, there is not a single person who is not able to turn around as the substance of goodness is not something additional but something that need to de-veloped and seen. It might be a undertaking of a long long time, and it might be that it comes clear in a hurtful way, but as soon as it is seen, even for just some seconds, the most worse person get’s his way right out of his trap.

    You can nothing but train you patient and learn additional skills. Stay tuned. *smile*

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]
    May I tell you again? That Bowang would never get it, if you just beating the bush. :)

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Friend, that is a simply psychological problem. Many had received so much help and support that they are finally not able to give the dept back.
    But rather to use their merits and show gratitude to whom it would make sense or use the possibility to lead a real good life to honor this, they seek for something else with is not able to make them worry.

    There was one good and real statement of our friend: “I am my own creator”, which has much true inside. If one would not have done well in the past, he would not have gained such great possibilities. But one is even the creator when it goes downward. If one even miss to honor his own past deed in a way to make something useful like to establish virtue, concentration and insight his old wholesome deeds will be gone faster as one might believe.

    If we do not understand the circle of gratitude and goodwill, we will also do not find a way out of this circle at least and our dept list will grow and grow and with it also the pain.

    It might help people who are very pride and unable to take part on the normal social life, that a god can be a place where they try to pay their dept back but even this could be just another excuse for an live devoted to one self and pride.

    May he see the door as every religion is able to lead one a little in the right direction, for a fool the best medicine would not work, he thinks he is smarter and is able to live without the support of endless beings he never had recognized.

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    My war of aords with Bowang has since taken on a new direction when he attacked both his parents and Buddhism. As quoted below:

    “we need to rethink, maybe our parents may have been wrong but didn’t realize it because they blindly followed what was set before them. in the real world many parents are not as righteous or as dreamy as what the inexperience monk is preaching. yet people sit there and listen in a trance like state as if they’re given some sort of profound knowledge. when it is just misguided teachings. the blind leading the blind. ”

    He can attack anyone including me, but his parents, who gave him everything, their lives to get him to freedom, and now he used his freedom to attack them. I am speaking to him on behalf of his parents, who would have never have the chance to even utter one words before he would call them Satan and shut them up.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Friend, from experiences, there is not a single person who is not able to turn around as the substance of goodness is not something additional but something that need to de-veloped and seen. It might be a undertaking of a long long time, and it might be that it comes clear in a hurtful way, but as soon as it is seen, even for just some seconds, the most worse person get’s his way right out of his trap.

    You can nothing but train you patient and learn additional skills. Stay tuned. *smile*
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    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]
    May I tell you again? That Bowang would never get it, if you just beating the bush. :)

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    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Friend, that is a simply psychological problem. Many had received so much help and support that they are finally not able to give the dept back.
    But rather to use their merits and show gratitude to whom it would make sense or use the possibility to lead a real good life to honor this, they seek for something else with is not able to make them worry.

    There was one good and real statement of our friend: “I am my own creator”, which has much true inside. If one would not have done well in the past, he would not have gained such great possibilities. But one is even the creator when it goes downward. If one even miss to honor his own past deed in a way to make something useful like to establish virtue, concentration and insight his old wholesome deeds will be gone faster as one might believe.

    If we do not understand the circle of gratitude and goodwill, we will also do not find a way out of this circle at least and our dept list will grow and grow and with it also the pain.

    It might help people who are very pride and unable to take part on the normal social life, that a god can be a place where they try to pay their dept back but even this could be just another excuse for an live devoted to one self and pride.

    May he see the door as every religion is able to lead one a little in the right direction, for a fool the best medicine would not work, he thinks he is smarter and is able to live without the support of endless beings he never had recognized.

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    #365342
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    Can you ask him to come back?

    Lolz

    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

    #365352
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    I can..but Im a lower level more than him….Im just a new membership(2years). but him went to take a Priest Course in Special School. Because he wanted to be a Priest, I dont think you all able to educate him to convert back to Buddhsim tei. the Christian rules are full inside his heart. no matter of what he fights back for his God in all costs…

    He’s a nice guy in real life, especially if you come to Church for every saturday, he very very welcome you. But you all dont MESSS up to him….he starts to wear a Skin TigerMASS to attack back immediately….

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Can you ask him to come back?

    Lolz

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    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

    [/quote]

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    That is quite an insight into Bowang background. He trying to be a priest? He should learn it from me. Lolz

    Kimpirum, please never think that way, that you are lower than anyone. You are in gods eye(s) equal in every term and condition, you are his pride creation for all the intend and purpose of his plan. If anyone tell you that you are anything less than that, tell them to see me in k.cc lolz

    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I can..but Im a lower level more than him….Im just a new membership(2years). but him went to take a Priest Course in Special School. Because he wanted to be a Priest, I dont think you all able to educate him to convert back to Buddhsim tei. the Christian rules are full inside his heart. no matter of what he fights back for his God in all costs…

    He’s a nice guy in real life, especially if you come to Church for every saturday, he very very welcome you. But you all dont MESSS up to him….he starts to wear a Skin TigerMASS to attack back immediately….
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Can you ask him to come back?

    Lolz

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

    [/quote]
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    #365371
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    Hi Khemrin ha,

    Lower than him is not mean low life than him…its just he became a Christian Member before me, all his family members were sponsered by the Priest to come overhere, that is why they donated their lives to God.

    He is kinda a little hot temper if some one doesnt know how to console him…which is he thinks that he better than some-one when debate about religion, and he assumes that he has a Diploma Religion.

    Therefore, he debates never end issue…no matter you try to make some samples this and that, he ignores them all. because the Christian secret rule is planning to destroy all religions in this world and bring all religion believers to convert to its own Religion in the furture.

    Why do I know about that!!! because when I was invited to become a member and the Priest teach me about that rule for secret…he also said, I had to be honest to the God’ christian. which is if I income $100,000. I had to donate to the Church for 25% of my Income. mannn, That is so much for me!!!

    You can ask Bowang for that issue, why does the Church ask for 25% of our income!!!!!

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    That is quite an insight into Bowang background. He trying to be a priest? He should learn it from me. Lolz

    Kimpirum, please never think that way, that you are lower than anyone. You are in gods eye(s) equal in every term and condition, you are his pride creation for all the intend and purpose of his plan. If anyone tell you that you are anything less than that, tell them to see me in k.cc lolz

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    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I can..but Im a lower level more than him….Im just a new membership(2years). but him went to take a Priest Course in Special School. Because he wanted to be a Priest, I dont think you all able to educate him to convert back to Buddhsim tei. the Christian rules are full inside his heart. no matter of what he fights back for his God in all costs…

    He’s a nice guy in real life, especially if you come to Church for every saturday, he very very welcome you. But you all dont MESSS up to him….he starts to wear a Skin TigerMASS to attack back immediately….
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Can you ask him to come back?

    Lolz

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

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    [Message last modified 05-24-2012 04:30am by kimpirun98]

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    Why you do not give all if you are really convicted? Lousy 25%, honest citizen pay more tax than this ;-)
    If you are devoted to money do not walk a spiritual way, it could be nothing but incredible in-honest as well as messy hypocrisy. It’s well if you can serve a honest live and just pay your tax as general agreed.

    Generally a priest would not own anything.

    [Message last modified 05-24-2012 06:11am by hanzze]

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    Kimpirum,

    I was with this religion way back when I was young, till I outgrew their ideology. There were many things that I did not and still do not agree with the way they present their ideology as their infallable words of god, and the absolute truth. Each chapter wrote by various writers, such as paul, Peter, John etc, etc and ect…were of their accounts or thought and ideas of what they want the believers to believe. And not necessary any truth, or the socalled gods words. In trying make god relevant to every day life and history, they, basically did realize, misrepresent their god so bad that the god was so abusive, cruel, and racist, from the garden of Eden to Jesus cruxifixion.

    You are right when you talked about the secret rule. However, There is no secret rule, if you read their doctrine, you would know that this religion is up to no good, especially in Timothy, that every soul has to be lost and basically has to worship Israel, or otherwise you would be cursed and condemned by god.

    This is the point where I challenge Bowang come clean, either denying and thus denouncing of their doctrine about charactering god as being racist, when he thought that god help Israel won the six days war against Arabs, or accept such indoctrination and validate such characterization as being truth. He could not, and now just disappear…

    In short this religion is a political wing used to manipulate through by default fear and collective punishment to scare people to joint their cause to mull other faiths or religions, to fullfil their doctrine(prophecy), especially to save and glorify Israel as per god command.

    Do get a hold of Torah, if you have a chance. They are very interesting doctrine.

    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    Hi Khemrin ha,

    Lower than him is not mean low life than him…its just he became a Christian Member before me, all his family members were sponsered by the Priest to come overhere, that is why they donated their lives to God.

    He is kinda a little hot temper if some one doesnt know how to console him…which is he thinks that he better than some-one when debate about religion, and he assumes that he has a Diploma Religion.

    Therefore, he debates never end issue…no matter you try to make some samples this and that, he ignores them all. because the Christian secret rule is planning to destroy all religions in this world and bring all religion believers to convert to its own Religion in the furture.

    Why do I know about that!!! because when I was invited to become a member and the Priest teach me about that rule for secret…he also said, I had to be honest to the God’ christian. which is if I income $100,000. I had to donate to the Church for 25% of my Income. mannn, That is so much for me!!!

    You can ask Bowang for that issue, why does the Church ask for 25% of our income!!!!!
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    That is quite an insight into Bowang background. He trying to be a priest? He should learn it from me. Lolz

    Kimpirum, please never think that way, that you are lower than anyone. You are in gods eye(s) equal in every term and condition, you are his pride creation for all the intend and purpose of his plan. If anyone tell you that you are anything less than that, tell them to see me in k.cc lolz

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I can..but Im a lower level more than him….Im just a new membership(2years). but him went to take a Priest Course in Special School. Because he wanted to be a Priest, I dont think you all able to educate him to convert back to Buddhsim tei. the Christian rules are full inside his heart. no matter of what he fights back for his God in all costs…

    He’s a nice guy in real life, especially if you come to Church for every saturday, he very very welcome you. But you all dont MESSS up to him….he starts to wear a Skin TigerMASS to attack back immediately….
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Can you ask him to come back?

    Lolz

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

    [/quote]
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    [Message last modified 05-24-2012 04:30am by kimpirun98][/quote]

    #365400
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    A priest told me that business I own now course of God gave to me…whenever I follow to what God discipline, then i will get more and more income later.

    He also said, God will know how much people incomes!!! people no need to lie to him tei…if people lie to him, then people come to church for nothing. God cant help us!!!

    Therefore people who come to church have to be straighted to him…At that time, I paid to Church for couple months within my income…there was a month that I paid not enough , then a priest asked me ‘WHY….’ after that i decided to quit it.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Why you do not give all if you are really convicted? Lousy 25%, honest citizen pay more tax than this ;-)
    If you are devoted to money do not walk a spiritual way, it could be nothing but incredible in-honest as well as messy hypocrisy. It’s well if you can serve a honest live and just pay your tax as general agreed.

    Generally a priest would not own anything.

    [Message last modified 05-24-2012 06:11am by hanzze]

    #365410
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    Very wise, a God (a being of goodness) would also not request your money *smile* what for, he would know that it never makes happy. When you like it you suffer, when you like to keep it you fear to loose it, when you need to give it away you suffer.

    That is why wise people do not touch it at all and good laypeople share their honest earned possessions it with the wise but not the money.

    [Message last modified 05-24-2012 07:24pm by hanzze]

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    another cambo troll here. on style and composition, could be phnomklar dumber twin brother. we got a bunch of jokers here. sad to see but most khmer people are really this stupid, khemrin, hanzze, this guy, phnom for example. so rare to find a cambo with the heart, spirit, and intellect to appreciate all of this. this one is for you, take the cake.

    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    Hi Khemrin ha,

    Lower than him is not mean low life than him…its just he became a Christian Member before me, all his family members were sponsered by the Priest to come overhere, that is why they donated their lives to God.

    He is kinda a little hot temper if some one doesnt know how to console him…which is he thinks that he better than some-one when debate about religion, and he assumes that he has a Diploma Religion.

    Therefore, he debates never end issue…no matter you try to make some samples this and that, he ignores them all. because the Christian secret rule is planning to destroy all religions in this world and bring all religion believers to convert to its own Religion in the furture.

    Why do I know about that!!! because when I was invited to become a member and the Priest teach me about that rule for secret…he also said, I had to be honest to the God’ christian. which is if I income $100,000. I had to donate to the Church for 25% of my Income. mannn, That is so much for me!!!

    You can ask Bowang for that issue, why does the Church ask for 25% of our income!!!!!
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    That is quite an insight into Bowang background. He trying to be a priest? He should learn it from me. Lolz

    Kimpirum, please never think that way, that you are lower than anyone. You are in gods eye(s) equal in every term and condition, you are his pride creation for all the intend and purpose of his plan. If anyone tell you that you are anything less than that, tell them to see me in k.cc lolz

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I can..but Im a lower level more than him….Im just a new membership(2years). but him went to take a Priest Course in Special School. Because he wanted to be a Priest, I dont think you all able to educate him to convert back to Buddhsim tei. the Christian rules are full inside his heart. no matter of what he fights back for his God in all costs…

    He’s a nice guy in real life, especially if you come to Church for every saturday, he very very welcome you. But you all dont MESSS up to him….he starts to wear a Skin TigerMASS to attack back immediately….
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Can you ask him to come back?

    Lolz

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by kimpirun98[/i]
    I know bowang in real life…we used to go to same church. he is Christian Khmer Representative…

    maybe he recognize me too if i telling him something to make he understand about me.

    [/quote]
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    [Message last modified 05-24-2012 04:30am by kimpirun98][/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 06:36am by bowang]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 06:37am by bowang]

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    Bowang,

    How come you alway unhappy to our statements!! because you think that our statemnets conflict to your Religion’s secret!!!and you can not make advertise it no more. I doubt that you no longer to keep secret your religion anymore, because there are some of us intend to be member of your religion, we want to find out your secret issues religion hiding behind the wall.

    Bowang ha,
    I dont think you recognize me, but I know you very well in real life…and I pretend to be honest to your Religion, in order to make your Priest reveals all secret Religion to me understand, that is why i did know your secret religion 90%, already…

    Your Priest likes me too much!!! he doesnt know that I come here to STAB his back…

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    A lost soul is on the loose.

    Bowang, you have nothing left, except insulting and name calling. You thought you have so much, or know so much about this religion, but here you are just, making a fool of yourself. Losing even your self respect, if any left before this.

    However, you are a clown that we need in here, to laught at or to poke fun with, and to generate th traffic in kc.

    Just to confirm what Kimpirum said, are you really looking to become a priest? I hope Kim just was just having fun. Lolz

    So what is left in you, in pertaining to Christianity or any other related subject that you us to laugh at you?

    As I told you I am here to do what your parents would never have the chance to deal on this level with you.

    So go on make a fool out of yourself. :)

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    another cambo troll here. on style and composition, could be phnomklar dumber twin brother. we got a bunch of jokers here. sad to see but most khmer people are really this stupid, khemrin, hanzze, this guy, phnom for example. so rare to find a cambo with the heart, spirit, and intellect to appreciate all of this. this one is for you, take the cake.

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    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

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    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

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    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

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    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang]

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    Bowang, now that you have kids on your own, you understand how your parents feel about you. The sacrifice,the unconditional love, the selflessness that they were to you, so you can be what you are here today. They have been your the god of almighty gods out there whom you would have never seen in your life time. They are real, their existence is also real.

    Lolz I hope I have mother who can tell me that, when I am lost or a strayed off my path. Your mother is very smart woman. She know wrong when she sees one. She know right when she sees one. It is the knowledge imbedded in her natural instinct. That gave her the ability to act or not to act, response or not response, to move fofrward or backward in a danger situation, so you are here today, alive and well, with two great kids and a beautiful wife today. Not because she did not understand, but understood she was so well, and her love and compassion is so strong that compel her to utter a honest assessment of your condition in which she saw fit, honestly as mother, and grandmother of your beloved children.

    That is not true of your feeling about your parents, especially when you misunderstood the mathew in your thread about gratitude… It is also hard to believe that you are more compassion toward your parents now, as Christian than when you were Buddhist. It is one of the cornerstone of Buddhism that one must respect and reciprocate the compassion and unconditional love to your parents. It is even said that the first god is your parents.

    Honestly though, I think you are on the right track, bro. Your thought and tone is more in synch, I appreciate that.

    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang][/quote]

    #365487
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    i am going to be honest with you, i dont have to but i think its well worth it to show you how serious i am about my faith. i dont doubt my parents love for me, however they didnt know how to express love to their children. its like getting cold soup when you are sick. i understand it’s because they were not showered with affection themselves growing up, the culture of the time i guess. they in turn are just continuing a cycle passed down to them. i dont know if this is a cultural thing or just mine but from my observation while living in oakland, khmer parents from that generation lacked the ability to show love, you know like hugs and kisses etc. i saw it in my family and several of my friends family as well. i believe as children we need that affection and not just words (pradao) to fully mature and flourish. now that i have kids of my own, i am breaking this cycle. my affection is my children not just in words but in actions. this is just one example. something i have learned inspired greatly from the message of Christ.

    my parents were not educated, country folks, damaged people from all of the traumas they went through. they’re survivors like many khmer parents. i am the result inheriting many flaws as well. but i am from a different generation able to see a little more in introspection living in a land where there’s more opportunities for learning, knowledge, knowing whats right and wrong. not just reactive to my environment but also constructive in self improvement. so i do not judge my parents because i know this. i have a lot of sympathy for them. i do have gratitude for their sacrifices. however i believe in being better than them not just enough to keep them happy. i want my children to be better than me too especially if i am wrong. i want them to be able to tell me, for us to communicate our differences.

    so when my parents were wrong with facts due to their preconceived ideas what was told to them or handling of situation, question of morality, there were many instances. i was the son who had the gut to speak out and get into fights and arguments with them. i remember telling my dad its wrong to be racist against black people simply because we lived in the ghetto and they were picking on us. stuff like this. when i learned something from school about science or politics for example, i would educate them, they would resist and argue with me. said i was crazy, baik chwaeng, a bad son for believing all of this and not them. i was dishonoring them because they are preah as told by the buddha etc. i know all of this, my parents were very traditional. i didnt back down because i knew i was right and they were wrong. they didnt know any better. i was unwilling to sweep things under the rug just to appease their ignorance. i dont think that was wrong of me. i did the right thing. it wasnt easy. i wanted to communicate to improve. i mean how else are you going to improve if you dont explain it. the rest is up to them. i even talked about love and affection etc. i guess it was too much for them to handle. they didnt have the background to understand or appreciate any of these things on a deeper level on not just the surface level.

    nevertheless i am thankful for my parents, and i love them more than words can say. its deep. its not all sugary. its bittersweet. imperfect perfection i call it. other people have parents who were gamblers, alcoholics etc and they too deserve our love. however you got to ask yourself, if your parents are not well are you going to be complacent about it, an accomplice? are you going to pretend everything is well or go against them if you must in order to heal or help yourself in the long run from the toxic mess ? i chose the latter

    i have compassion for my parents. love them dearly. do not be mistaken. but if my parents told me the earth was flat, i would disagree even if they wanted to disown me. they’ll come around is my prayer. i have nothing to be afraid of. I have truth by my side and God understands and consoles me. thats all i need. that’s why i have such a strong faith.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Bowang, now that you have kids on your own, you understand how your parents feel about you. The sacrifice,the unconditional love, the selflessness that they were to you, so you can be what you are here today. They have been your the god of almighty gods out there whom you would have never seen in your life time. They are real, their existence is also real.

    Lolz I hope I have mother who can tell me that, when I am lost or a strayed off my path. Your mother is very smart woman. She know wrong when she sees one. She know right when she sees one. It is the knowledge imbedded in her natural instinct. That gave her the ability to act or not to act, response or not response, to move fofrward or backward in a danger situation, so you are here today, alive and well, with two great kids and a beautiful wife today. Not because she did not understand, but understood she was so well, and her love and compassion is so strong that compel her to utter a honest assessment of your condition in which she saw fit, honestly as mother, and grandmother of your beloved children.

    That is not true of your feeling about your parents, especially when you misunderstood the mathew in your thread about gratitude… It is also hard to believe that you are more compassion toward your parents now, as Christian than when you were Buddhist. It is one of the cornerstone of Buddhism that one must respect and reciprocate the compassion and unconditional love to your parents. It is even said that the first god is your parents.

    Honestly though, I think you are on the right track, bro. Your thought and tone is more in synch, I appreciate that.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    im a family man. i have a beautiful wife. 2 great kids. never wanted to be a priest or a pastor. not my calling. my contribution is here on KC. the other guy is completely wrong. he doesnt know me. i dont know him. my mom use to tell me, i was baek chwaeng with my crazy ideas. I told her, i am actually baek sdam. they labelled me that because they didnt understand. i accepted. i dont disrespect them. i am brave enough to make my own road. i have more love and compassion for my parents as a christian than when i was a buddhist. God Truth, Christ sacrifice is above any other truth. the earth is not flat even if it is to some. i am glad God has enough compassion by showing me a better and more refine path.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    Now you are being honest. Because you can’t impress anyone with that kind of knowledge. Did you want to be a priest?Please tell me it is not true. Lolz

    You have ventured into deeper water than you thought. Being used and abused by the more intelligent peers, and now you have lost your parents who love you so much, you lost your soul, and now lost your way.

    Your parents had sacrificed their lives, to bring you this country, so you can have your freedom to learn something worthwhile, but you used freedom to foolishly attack them and their faith. You simply baek chhveng, like blinded buffalo.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by bowang[/i]
    i am not trying to impress anyone. best way to handle troll is to feed them because its fun…

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-26-2012 10:03pm by bowang][/quote]
    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 05-28-2012 03:11am by bowang]

    #365496
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    Bowang ha,

    Do you want me to reveal your real name infront the public on KC…???
    mannn Im a nice guy and help to protect your reputation, because I dont want someone to recognize who you are…
    You should understand that Im your partner in Church, im a quiet man in Church but Im talking alot on KC. That is why you can not know who I am but i do know who you are in real life…you have to count on what I said.

    Im very interested to be a Church member for all my life, but I dislike when a Priest asked me for 25% of my income. That is too much!!!! But I can donate to Church as much as I want, please dont put a rule to me by donation 25% of salary.

    Do you see another Religions force their followers have to donate 25% or whatever????

    [Message last modified 05-28-2012 07:52am by kimpirun98]

    #365505
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    why dont you do us all a favor and reveal who i am. not just 25 percents but 100 percents. i dont care, it would be good..

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