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  • #103251
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    Suersdey!
    Is there a possible connection between our two countries? The philipines and Cambodia…We all look a like I THINK, or is it just me? People have asked if I was Khmer. I’m filipino and I think that some khmers look filipino. Also, I observed that the pure filipino dances are almost similar to the cambodian and some thai dances. They use Those long Nails we call Janggay, and fans. I’m just curious.

    #103275
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    Yes I agree with you. My gf is flip and She looks flip but her other flip friends looks cambodian. I am suprise that they are flip and not khmer. I find is it so cool. My gf has a little spanish in her.

    #103293
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    Spanish?mmm, Was cambodia part of French Indochina? Alot of filipinos think they have spanish because Europe occupied for 300 years. But only 3percent of all filipinos have spanish. Alot also have spanish last names because we were’nt alowed to have “pagan” names like Srangvat Sveay

    #103310
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    Yeah, we do look alike. Some Filipinos are Chinese that emigrated there. But real Filipinos look a lot like Khmer people, but so does everyone in South East Asia, I mean look at Malaysia, Indonesia, we all look a like.

    #103325
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    Yep, people always think that me and some of my friends are filipino. My friend and her bro thought I was filipino the whole time also. She found out when she tried to speak tagalog to me and I didn’t answer her, lol. The people who mostly know that I’m khmer, are khmer people.

    #103343
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    I don’t mind it, but EVERYONE thinks I’m a pinoy. I used to sing at a lot of Filipino Debutantes and I blend in quite well. When I’m just out and about, even khmer people ask if I’m flip!

    #103390
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Spanish?mmm, Was cambodia part of French Indochina? Alot of filipinos think they have spanish because Europe occupied for 300 years. But only 3percent of all filipinos have spanish. Alot also have spanish last names because we were’nt alowed to have “pagan” names like Srangvat Sveay

    to be specific and precise, spain conquered the philippines for 333 years. however, its quite true that filipinos and khmers do look alike. i was always mistaken as khmer when i was in siem reap. :) however, are you sure that only 3% of filipinos have spanish blood in them? so tsinoyako, based on your sn, you are half filipino and half chinese?

    [Message last modified 03-23-2003 08:30pm by apsara06]

    #103360
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Suersdey!
    Is there a possible connection between our two countries? The philipines and Cambodia…We all look a like I THINK, or is it just me? People have asked if I was Khmer. I’m filipino and I think that some khmers look filipino. Also, I observed that the pure filipino dances are almost similar to the cambodian and some thai dances. They use Those long Nails we call Janggay, and fans. I’m just curious.

    tsinoyako, what filipino dances do you know of that are similar to khmer and thai dances? ive been exposed to filipino folk dances all my life however ive only seen an apsara dance and this thai dance (with the monkey but forgot the name) and based on this little exposure (of thai and khmer dance) i dont see any similarities.i might be wrong though so could you please explain. :)

    #103376
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    [i]Originally posted by Dario[/i]
    Yeah, we do look alike. Some Filipinos are Chinese that emigrated there. But real Filipinos look a lot like Khmer people, but so does everyone in South East Asia, I mean look at Malaysia, Indonesia, we all look a like.

    very

    very good obsevation dario. quite true. :)

    #103407
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    About the dances, Have you seen the janggay dance? The wone wear these long nails and pose hand movements and arm movements to that Of Other mainland southeast asia. I guess alot of southe east asian Real dances are a little simmilar. I’m not talking about the Iberian influenced of filipino village dances, I’m talking about the oure native dances> Singkil: the one where the lady dances across criss cross bamboos withe fans. Then theres all the badjao dnaces, then the IndiraPatra dance. Then theres the ifugao dance which ifugao clothing are very simmilar to Montagnards and hill tribes in mainland southe east asia. Check our Likha Dance troup and Folklorico Filipino Dance Troup also Sayaw Pilipinas.

    #103423
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    Yes I’m half chinese. My relatives speak Hokkien(fukkien) and tagalog plus ilokano. Anyway, Have you ever heard of that decree that (i forgot the name) that was made that peopl of tha Islands, manila city especially had to pick a european name so the spanierds could tax and collect treasures from the people. Thats why we find the name cruz somuch because so many people chose the same last name.

    #103440
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    I don’t think there is anything similar with Phillipines and Khmer. Some of us may look alike, but that’s about it. We never really exchanged any tradition or culture. I think most Phillipines are Austronesian rather than Mongoloid. Indonesia had influence from India, so they are somewhat similar with Khmer, but the majority of their population are Muslims.

    #103457
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    There were only a little more than 300,000 spanierds in the philippines at that time. Intermarriage with all native women would have been impossible because most of the spans were situated on luzon, precisely in manila. The natives except the ones in manila stayed in the country side. Spanish was spoken in government, the Highier class, and the minority of spanish priests and soldiers. Why is it that alot of pinoys who claim european blood cant trace there geneology to at least one member to spain? Some do, dont get me wrong…

    #103472
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    [i]Originally posted by Menikani[/i]
    I don’t think there is anything similar with Phillipines and Khmer. Some of us may look alike, but that’s about it. We never really exchanged any tradition or culture. I think most Phillipines are Austronesian rather than Mongoloid. Indonesia had influence from India, so they are somewhat similar with Khmer, but the majority of their population are Muslims.

    What do you mean By austronesian? I know we are mongoloid because our ancestors were Malays, Indos, and southern chinese. Thats why on the Babuyan islands, you’ll find ancient burial jars with dragon designs on them. I usual custom of some aboriginal chinese. Are you referring to the negritos in the philippines?

    #103488
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Menikani[/i]
    I don’t think there is anything similar with Phillipines and Khmer. Some of us may look alike, but that’s about it. We never really exchanged any tradition or culture. I think most Phillipines are Austronesian rather than Mongoloid. Indonesia had influence from India, so they are somewhat similar with Khmer, but the majority of their population are Muslims.

    What do you mean By austronesian? I know we are mongoloid because our ancestors were Malays, Indos, and southern chinese. Thats why on the Babuyan islands, you’ll find ancient burial jars with dragon designs on them. I usual custom of some aboriginal chinese. Are you referring to the negritos in the philippines?
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    Regardless of Minikani.She one of the dumbest person in Southeas Asia,who think she is the most brilliant one.

    #103504
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    Im not a she fool. Before you die, ask me to be at your funeral, I practice cannibalism, and I want to make sure no meat goes to waste.

    #103519
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    Hell nah, we’re totally different in so many ways. We just look alike, that’s it.

    #103535
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    Just remember, I’m not saying that we have everything in common. I’m just trying to compare other southe east asians countries with my own because I cant stand filipinos who are anti asian and try to say they’re Hawaiian when the two coltures dont even compare. I am especcially annoyed when flips try to say they’re white and say that all other asians are monkeys. Did you know that the philippines has a ancient writing system? Its called alibata or Babayin. Its Characters are derived from sanskrit and many letters are the same as Ancient Mon and burmese.

    #103551
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Just remember, I’m not saying that we have everything in common. I’m just trying to compare other southe east asians countries with my own because I cant stand filipinos who are anti asian and try to say they’re Hawaiian when the two coltures dont even compare.

    Our Culture don’t really compare either, we are different in many ways that the connection bridge between Khmer and Flips barely Exist. Well maybe it does, but comparing culture and tradition. There is no connection at all.

    I am especcially annoyed when flips try to say they’re white and say that all other asians are monkeys.

    You hear that all the times from Japanese and Koreans.

    Did you know that the philippines has a ancient writing system? Its called alibata or Babayin. Its Characters are derived from sanskrit and many letters are the same as Ancient Mon and burmese.

    Really? cool..

    #103566
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    Very interesting, TsinoyAko, tell me more. How far back does your history go? What was it like 7 or 8 hundred years ago?

    #103583
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    Our history goes back some thousands of years ago. A dicovery was made too. A copper plate inscription was found and had some type of writing that looked like thai writing but it was not, it was one of the first writing systems. Hisstory ahows how monarch philippine cities traded with china. One sultan from Sulu actually went to beijing to offer a gift. The clothing was also very colorful Women wore long wrap skirts we call malongs that are still used today. We alos have tribes on Palawan Island that there dance consist of muslim and hindu beliefs. Bartering boats were always in abundance. They looked like chinese junks. Rice has always been important so many people worked in rice paddies with big pointy hats. History shows that we traded with champa I dont know what that is, and thailand , vietnam, arabia.Then ther still the mountain tribes people. There cultuire and dress resemble burmese hill tribes.
    somebody please send some khmer words to me or here

    #103600
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    Palawan is a beautiful name.In khmer it mean golden benefit or golden fruit.I believed the inscription that found in the phillipine would probably be khmer ancien script. Thai had no writing during the ancient of khmer civilization and there was no thailand,laos,or north vietnam.

    Champa is a muslim country. The Champa kingdom is the entirely of north vietnam today,Hanoi. I think it was lost to the Vietnamese in the 14 century. South of Vietnam belong to Cambodia,today vietnam call it Ho Chi Minh City. The original name call by Khmer was Prey Nokore.

    The Vietnamese are totally of Chinese descent. They are short,white slanted eyes and ugly. Until they were later mixed with Cham to the north and some khmer to the south(khmer krom).

    #103616
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    I STRONGLY think Cambodians and Filipinos are similar. I have plenty of Filipino friends and my ex was Filipino.

    The only thing that is different about us is religion, they’re Catholic and we’re Buddhist.

    Food is the same as well, Filipinos eat prahok and kapee … they call it bagoong, there is plenty of Cambodian dishes that are similar to Filipino dishes. Too many to name. Even dessert is the same … because I see the same desserts in a Filipino store as in a Cambodian store. We both LOVE seafood too!

    Dances are the same, they have rural, Maria Clara, mountain, tribal, and Muslim dances. Just like us Cambodians have Muslim, Tribal/Mountain, rural/folk and Classical dances. Similar dances … Tinikling is similar to Cambodian “Ang Rey” and Filipino and Cambodian tribal dances have similar attire. Oh Muslim dances are the same as well.

    Did you know Cambodia could’ve of been colonized by the Spanish. I read it up in a lot of Cambodian history books. It was before the French, and the Spaniards built a garrison/fort in Phnom Penh. The Cambodian king at that time needed help from the Spanish to protect themselves from Thailand and Vietnam. They converted the King and Queen into Catholics, but the Cambodians during the time strongly oppose Catholicism, they didn’t wanted to be forced into converting into Catholicism. So they had an uprise in Phnom Penh in kicking out the Spaniards in Cambodia. They killed most of the Spaniards and burn down the Spanish garrison in Phnom Penh and the remaining Spaniards fled to the Philippines. Who would of thought, we could’ve of been colonized by the Spanish and have Spanish last name? Would be funny to hear like Samnang De La Cruz or Bopha Garcia.

    Thats my point of view and history lesson for today!

    - Michael Tea =D

    #103632
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    Yeah, thats pretty funny. We have names like that lIke Marko Lauchengco, corazon Cojuangco, Medyong Ver…….
    That is so interesting about that spanish thing…Tell me more…Tell me some words in Khmer. What does Uthot mean?

    #103647
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    Here is the nam,e of the inscription: Sulat Sa Tanso, Maybe some of the letters look familiar…

    #103664
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    Tsinoy … I don’t know what Cambodian words you’re trying to say?

    But here is some more info about the Spaniards in Cambodia:

    1576 – 1599 THE SPANISH INTERLUDE

    |1576 – c.1594 Under constant attack from the Thais, King Satha, who rules Kambuja, seeks military support from the Spanish, who by this time are well established in southeast Asia.

    |1594 The Thais capture the new Cambodian capital at Lovek.

    |c. 1594 Satha is deposed. The usurper, Chung Prei, becomes king.

    |1596 A Spanish expedition arrives in Cambodia to aid King Satha against the Thais. They sack the Chinese quarter of Phnom Penh and kill the king and his son. They then march to Laos and take King Satha’s son, putting him on the Kambujan throne in Phnom Penh as King Barom Reachea II.

    |1599 The Kambujan court try to oust Reachea II in favor of King Satha’s brother, Soryopor, to rid Kambuja of Spanish influence. The inhabitants of the Spanish garrison in Phnom Penh are massacred and Soryopor takes control after a brief period of confusion when three princes occupy the throne. This marks the end of the Spanish influence in Cambodia.

    - Michael Tea

    #103683
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    Is it true that Khmer shares some indonesian words? if so, what words are they because the all filipino languages are based on Malay and indonesian.

    #103857
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    Ok, i think this word is similar in Indonesian and Khmer, “bong”. It means brother in Khmer and I think it means the same thing in Indonesian. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    BTW, I know for sure Champs are related to Indonesian b/c when I was in a camp in Indonesia there was this Champ family who can speak to the Indonesia soldiers there. They understood each other.

    [Message last modified 03-26-2003 12:48am by Gambit]

    #103699
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    I resent that..vietnamese are not ugly..actually most vietnamese girls are damn hot:)

    #103713
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    Theres one difference. Flip chicks are easy! Khmer chicks wants your 401k.

    #103727
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Is it true that Khmer shares some indonesian words? if so, what words are they because the all filipino languages are based on Malay and indonesian.

    There are some. befor the khmers had an empire, The indos and khmers faught many naval battles, pushing the khmers into the inland valleys. We were once sea faring people too. Our first king came from Indonesia.

    Words like flower. pka vs. Paga
    Stir fried noodle. Char ka tiue (hokkien influence) Im part hokkien too.
    Language: Pasa vs. bahasa
    facial features: example eye tmaigh vs. ta or mata

    My dad (like many hokkiens) does business and have relative all over south east asia. He understands Indonesian becuase he speaks Cham, the muslin language in Cambodia, a sister language to the malays. He also told that he undestands the language in the island of Bali. 50 percent of bali is like khmer latin. Bali’s are still hindu, khmers of the past were hindus too.

    The indonesian and khmer language in the past, befor religous influences are very simular.

    The foundation of islam in the indonesian langugae, and the Buddhist foundation in the khmer languge, seperate the two into two diffent evolutionary paths, but the basic word remains simular.

    #103742
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    Hear is what the Filipino “sulat sa tanso” say, The first line:
    Swasti Shaka warshatita 822 waisakha masa ding jyotisha// Chathurti krishnapaksha somawara sana tatkala dayang angkatan…
    Are any of these words familiar or or mean anything in khmer?

    #103758
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    Thanks for the neat little bundle of information, Point_Dexter. Where can I read more? Any book recommendation? And thank you too, TsinoyAko.

    #103775
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Hear is what the Filipino “sulat sa tanso” say, The first line:
    Swasti Shaka warshatita 822 waisakha masa ding jyotisha// Chathurti krishnapaksha somawara sana tatkala dayang angkatan…
    Are any of these words familiar or or mean anything in khmer?

    It must be old Khmer.

    —————————————–

    Champa people we’re once Hindu people and then they converted to Islam, If I had to guess, I’d say somewhere around 1200, I’m not sure, I forgot.

    #103788
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    [i]Originally posted by duongdara[/i]
    Palawan is a beautiful name.In khmer it mean golden benefit or golden fruit.I believed the inscription that found in the phillipine would probably be khmer ancien script. Thai had no writing during the ancient of khmer civilization and there was no thailand,laos,or north vietnam.

    Champa is a muslim country. The Champa kingdom is the entirely of north vietnam today,Hanoi. I think it was lost to the Vietnamese in the 14 century. South of Vietnam belong to Cambodia,today vietnam call it Ho Chi Minh City. The original name call by Khmer was Prey Nokore.

    The Vietnamese are totally of Chinese descent. They are short,white slanted eyes and ugly. Until they were later mixed with Cham to the north and some khmer to the south(khmer krom).

    Not really, the kingdom of Annam was in the north around the Hanoi area, Champa was in the middle of modern day Vietname. And below Champa was the Khmer Empire when we had control of the Saigon/Prei Nokor area. Then Annam took over Champa moving south. Then the people of Annam started colonizing the mekong delta region and soon we lost the area to the Anamese people.

    [Message last modified 03-25-2003 02:52am by Dario]

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