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  • #104398
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    It also depends on that persons backround and how they live theyre identity. There are filipinos who have parents that tought them how to be anti asian and consider themselves to be something they are not. Then there are those that dont know nothing about there culture and pose it in a stereo type way. For example, HALF of pinoys have european last names so ignorant people will consider them latino when all it is was a decree that was made that colonized chritian malays had to change there names to european names. Thats a big issue too. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Ive always considered myself asian.

    Speaking of the imperialism colonization. I am glad that Cambodian managed to keep our own writing systems instead of using french alphabets like the vietnamese.French tried to convert Cambodia from Buddhism to Christianity or Catholics. That is another thing we are very proud of for our ancestor for not changing our costumes and last name.

    #104414
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    my cousin’s son ish flip + cambodian = human being

    #104430
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    I totally agree with you. Khmers have kept there pure identity. The philippines do have there own writing system but just like vietnam, it has dwindelled. If you look earlier in this forum, there are some filipino dances and costumes. That is the true filipino culture. all those dances are becoming extinct but now I see it more often. There are three tribes in the philippines that still use there writing system.

    #104447
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    Do pinoys have there own version of the Ramayana?

    Every country in that region like:
    India
    Sri Langka
    Laos
    thai
    khmer
    malaysia
    indonesia
    bengladesh
    burma
    bali

    …has there own version of the Ramayana.

    [Message last modified 04-04-2003 11:15pm by Point_Dexter]

    #104464
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    No, we dont have our own version because the philippines were moslim and animist, we traded with all those other countries but our country never devoloped an Indian based kingdom like Madjapahit. We do have dances like Indarapatra and we do have dances that are similar throughout sothe east asia. The are pictures on this thread I think on page 3 of our dances.

    #104480
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    Does cambodia have there own form of martial arts. The philippines do.
    We have Maharlikha Kuntao,(maharlikha is sais to have been the original name of the philippines, Kali, and silat.

    #104497
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    I don’t know if these are martial arts, but there’s kickboxing and sword fighting.

    #104513
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Does cambodia have there own form of martial arts. The philippines do.
    We have Maharlikha Kuntao,(maharlikha is sais to have been the original name of the philippines, Kali, and silat.

    Kali, art from with two small weaponry like sticks or swords.
    We have that. For got what its called.

    I’ve seen it demonstrated in Cambodia, it was also carved ito the walls of Angkor. In the dense Jungles of Cambodia and the Philippines large weaponry like broad swords and spears can become usless. Having tw0 smaller weapons, one in each hand is more effecient in jungle warfare.

    Maharlika Kuntao?
    I can try to translate it.
    Maha = major, or great
    lika= style
    Kuntao, could that meean small weapon or small sword, cus in khmer kundao means small sword.
    Maharlika Kuntao = The “great-style” of the small “weapon”

    #104527
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    Menikani
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    is this it?

    #104545
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    sethey
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    From what i have read, the origin of khmer people have it root with the Plynisian people, which include the present day Philiipine and Indonesia. That why we look alike. As for the Viet, Siam (Thai), Lao they were orinally from China.

    #104560
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    Menikani
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    We have roots from India also.

    #104577
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    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Does cambodia have there own form of martial arts. The philippines do.
    We have Maharlikha Kuntao,(maharlikha is sais to have been the original name of the philippines, Kali, and silat.

    maharlika the original name of the philippines? really? i thought it was just the whim of marcos to change philippines to maharlika. boy oh boy! its like ive been learning more from this thread than from all of my history subjects. heeheehee :)

    #104591
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    From what i read, that is what some in the old days refered to the islands. The word actually means royal or free.Also, there’s an ancient diary of ?Fa Hia? was found and places called Ma I which she might have meant Mait In the philippines. According to the way she described the place, it matches Mait. Then Names of certain cities in the philipines have been found in ancient chinese records Like Pu Li Lu, PulILo? They also found that the chinese had a name for the Islands but I’ll find more about what the names were. We had connections with Champa because of a story told about some filipino sultan had wives from champa.

    #104607
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    Well, we Khmer have sort of same roots both peoples migrated from region of China, though migration is separated by about 13,000 years…

    #104672
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    i am glad that tsinoyako is one of the filipino who is proud of who he is and that’s asian. not like most filipinos who think they are pacific islanders and spanish. they dont even look spanish or pacific islanders. the pacific islanders group belongs to samoans,tongans,guamanians,etc.
    filipinos look just like any other southeast asian and alot are identifying themselves as pacific islanders or spanish. that’s just really messed up.i don’t want to be harsh or anything but it seems that they are ashamed of who they are. true some filipinos do have spanish blood but most of them are asians. that applies the same to cambodians who some have french blood in them because of colonization back in the 1860′s up till 1950′s. i do get mistaken for being filipino alot also. and i mistaken some filipinos as being khmer cuz they even look more cambodian than me.but the truth is filipinos,indonesians,cambodians, etc. are all part of the austronesian family from ancient times. they migrated to mainland southeast asia first then to the islands of indonesia and the philippines. another thing is cambodians unlike filipinos, we don’t have french surnames, only stores and towns in cambodia, but we don’t have french names. and cambodians have their own language but we did borrow some from the french and some from other euorpeans but it’s still khmer language.as far as culture, there are no similarities what so ever.khmer culture is different from most cultures in that region except indonesia and thailand.

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    #104624
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    [i]Originally posted by Point_Dexter[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
    Is it true that Khmer shares some indonesian words? if so, what words are they because the all filipino languages are based on Malay and indonesian.

    There are some. befor the khmers had an empire, The indos and khmers faught many naval battles, pushing the khmers into the inland valleys. We were once sea faring people too. Our first king came from Indonesia.

    Words like flower. pka vs. Paga
    Stir fried noodle. Char ka tiue (hokkien influence) Im part hokkien too.
    Language: Pasa vs. bahasa
    facial features: example eye tmaigh vs. ta or mata

    My dad (like many hokkiens) does business and have relative all over south east asia. He understands Indonesian becuase he speaks Cham, the muslin language in Cambodia, a sister language to the malays. He also told that he undestands the language in the island of Bali. 50 percent of bali is like khmer latin. Bali’s are still hindu, khmers of the past were hindus too.

    The indonesian and khmer language in the past, befor religous influences are very simular.

    The foundation of islam in the indonesian langugae, and the Buddhist foundation in the khmer languge, seperate the two into two diffent evolutionary paths, but the basic word remains simular.[/quote]
    wow dexter, you seem to be very passionate about the history of cambodia and im glad that you are. i was wondering have you ever thought about writing a book? because the information you’re getting is pretty accurate because i remember reading stuff you said and you seem to have alot of knowledge about cambodia also.i suggest you write a book that if you have time and are willing to. but keep it up and i’ll try to do some studying and researching for myself.

    [Message last modified 05-15-2003 12:09am by angkorwat19]

    #104640
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    [i]Originally posted by angkorwat19[/i]
    as far as culture, there are no similarities what so ever.khmer culture is different from most cultures in that region except indonesia and thailand.

    [font=tempus sans itc]Khmer and Indonesian cultures are nothing alike, they sorta resemble each other. I say cultures cos there are more than one. In Indonesia there is Balinese, Javanese, etc.[/font]

    #104654
    Avatar of angkorwat19
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    [i]Originally posted by Dario[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by angkorwat19[/i]
    as far as culture, there are no similarities what so ever.khmer culture is different from most cultures in that region except indonesia and thailand.

    [font=tempus sans itc]Khmer and Indonesian cultures are nothing alike, they sorta resemble each other. I say cultures cos there are more than one. In Indonesia there is Balinese, Javanese, etc.[/font][/quote]
    sorry i take that back, i meant the religion. cambodia and indonesia shared similar religions back in ancient times i dont know when but they shared religions. just check out the ancient buildings in indonesia they look very similar to khmer buildings.

    #104687
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    Dario
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    [font=tempus sans itc]I agree, the religion in Indonesia is very similar to ours because like us, they religion is mixed with Hinduism and Buddhism.[/font]

    #104708
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    anak
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    sues’day.. i would like to put up a quote, may i?…

    [i]Originally posted by Dario[/i]
    [font=tempus sans itc]I agree, the religion in Indonesia is very similar to ours because like us, they religion is mixed with Hinduism and Buddhism.[/font]

    hold up: indonesia is the largest Muslim country on earth. i think culture and religion is mixed up here. indonesian culture may be linked to india and Cambodia but the religion is strikingly different than from the Khmer. if you are chattin bout hindu-buddhism being practiced, then u must be talkin of the island of Bali, which was a separate insular kingdom eons ago, which decided to keep on practising the traditional religion rather than converting to islam.
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    secondly: about this filipino/khmer linking thing: its sorta like saying spanish people are directly inked with english people: get what i mean?… i mean, sure they’re both white european and share characteristics in features and very sparingly in culture, but they are strikingly different.

    this is for khmers and filipinos who want to know the differences straight up…

    unlike the khmer, who are quite homogenous culturally, religiously and ethnically, (exceptin some of the various tribal peoples), filipinos are a visually “scattered” ppl. the main bulk of ppl are of the malayan race, the same race as ppl in indonesia and malaysia, BUT there are also ppl ethnically related to Polynesians (such as the Yakan People) and of Papuans and Melanesians (Aeta/Ati/Batak various ppls frm around the islands).. and this sorta gives an excuse to those filipino who say they are pacific-islander, coz in a way some of them are.

    so anyway, the people of the north differ to that of d south. 4 instance to say how r u? in itbayaten, the northernmost language in the country is “Ara ka manguh?”, meaning “whats the news?”. that same sentence in visayan, a central language of the country is “anong balita?” n indonesian being “apa kabar?” (sorta similar to “ara ka manguh?”)..

    all these languages, though, are IMMENSELY different to the Khmer: “sok sabai te?”, which is sorta similar to the thai “sawat di ka/sabai di?”

    in the distant past, the both cambodia and philippines were trading partners, and where ppl trade, they share. that shows through minority and muslim culture and aspects of language.. filipino even used a script similar to ancient mon n khmer (http://www.bibingka.com/dahon/lci/lci.htm) BUT when the spanish came they totally distroyed those links and made a NEW filipino culture and that is the culture of most filipinos today, if it wasnt for that, filipinos would write in a script similar to the khmer script and would be practising islam or hindu-buddhism. so instead of surnames like “reyes” they would be lookin at surnames like “namwaranputri”: sanskrit derived like many khmer names.

    but no matter bout the linkages the kingdoms had and the influences in the past… culture is different from ethnicity ^_^

    btw if you think any of the info i wrote above is wrong, just look it up on the net n u can be assured it is correct

    awkun ch’ran/salamat po!

    #104733
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    Aiur
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    no cambo look nothing like filos from the Philippines

    maybe khmer can pass for half black half filo

    filipinos have root in southern china via taiwan and borneo

    khmers have root in india

    filo

    cambodian

    [Message last modified 01-12-2011 06:10pm by Aiur]

    #104750
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    No-one recognize me is a Cambodian at all…cuz Im looke like a Philipno. What a heck why they say me like that???

    #104755
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    Aiur
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    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    No-one recognize me is a Cambodian at all…cuz Im looke like a Philipno. What a heck why they say me like that???

    there r some filos that mix with australoid….maybe they mistake u for the australoid type from the Philippines

    though most filos look different from khmer…I can tell…only the australoid/ aeta type look khmer

    #104778
    Avatar of KomLostBong
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    Can you post those Filos that mix with Australoid, please??? How just want to see them how they look like!!!! Thank…

    [i]Originally posted by Aiur[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    No-one recognize me is a Cambodian at all…cuz Im looke like a Philipno. What a heck why they say me like that???

    there r some filos that mix with australoid….maybe they mistake u for the australoid type from the Philippines

    though most filos look different from khmer…I can tell…only the australoid/ aeta type look khmer[/quote]

    #104796
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    here are some mixed australoid people///the 2nd girl is mixed aeta(negrito)


    they are people who digress from the typical austronesian/ bornean look of filipinos

    #104830
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    [i]Originally posted by Aiur[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    No-one recognize me is a Cambodian at all…cuz Im looke like a Philipno. What a heck why they say me like that???

    there r some filos that mix with australoid….maybe they mistake u for the australoid type from the Philippines

    though most filos look different from khmer…I can tell…only the australoid/ aeta type look khmer[/quote]

    we khmer people dont look any llke australoid/ aeta,












    [Message last modified 01-17-2011 06:22am by chan93]

    #104812
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    only filipino people look like australoid/ aeta, filipino people are Pacific Islander they look more like australoid/ aeta.. hahaha


    [Message last modified 01-17-2011 05:59am by chan93]

    #104877
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    I see someone is insecure…

    cambodian is not so different from australoid mixed people in the Philippines


    though u look totally different from non-mixed austronesian filipinos

    these are mainstream austronesian/bornean type filipinos..they look totally differen from khmers

    austronesian filipino siblings…all of them r related…

    austronesian filipina

    austronesian filipino (brother & sister)

    Bornean type filipina

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    #104845
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    you know what khmer and filos have in common?
    we are pretty ppl. OOo0o unite! lol jokes

    but yeah, i get mistaken for filipino all the time. about 90% of the time.

    [Message last modified 01-17-2011 06:36pm by ah_gho]

    #104862
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    like I said u khmers look like the australoid minorities in the Philippines..like aeta
    though u look nothing like the mainstream austronesian filipinos

    end of discussion

    #104894
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    Yeah “end of discussion”. you can leave now if you want.

    Anyways… anyone know what khmer culture was like before cultural indianization(before 1st century A.D)? maybe there was a slight moment of contact or cultural exchange between filipinos and Khmer back then.

    #104917
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    khmer and filipino with some that look alike, but majority filipino and khmer easy to pick apart. Yes i do have flip frieds.

    Also culture wise no, in terms of tradition. Khmer are more similiar to laos and thai.

    And you basis this on looks … just because a few looks like eachother doesnt mean we are similiar in culture.
    Also Thais do look like khmer and filipino does that mean filipino similair to thais too. Answer is no.

    Its not i have anything against filipino but i do not think we are same in term of religion, culture , language , etc…

    Filipino are thus more similiar to their neigboring countries and cambodia is similiar to their neigboring countries.

    #104936
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    and i do look kindly when someone say this or that just because we look lik them or whatever.

    Khmer just like filipino have their various looks depending region, mixing and what not.

    Looks are not the basis of if we are countries that are alike or whatever.

    So please be proud of your cutlures and dont combine it with khmer culture.

    #104952
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    reason is because the khmer empire use to stretch that far, so of course they will borrow some words. Just because that we are not similiar. Khmer have alot of words similiar to thais do we claim that thai and khmer are same ….NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    [i]Originally posted by Gambit[/i]
    Ok, i think this word is similar in Indonesian and Khmer, “bong”. It means brother in Khmer and I think it means the same thing in Indonesian. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    BTW, I know for sure Champs are related to Indonesian b/c when I was in a camp in Indonesia there was this Champ family who can speak to the Indonesia soldiers there. They understood each other.

    [Message last modified 03-26-2003 12:48am by Gambit]

    #104968
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    Just because you think this or that, doesnt hold any truth. Go read historical datas, learn the history and why things are and not because you think this or that Makes people of different country same.

    Khmer had their own empire … we are khmer and unique to ourself …we build complex building throughout indochina…
    Khmer language was borrow and tweak because we were a successful empire and knowledgable at that time.

    Just because a few words we use same or not does not we are like them. We are khmer and khmer is khmer nothing more nothing lesss.

    SO STOP COMPARING US TO ANYBODY ELSE.

    Also khmer and viets are close eachother we do borrow words with them does that mean khmer and viets are similiar.

    HELLL NO….

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