Filipinos and cambodians, Similar?

You know that dance with the bamboo sticks? Where two people are moving it and you have to jump? Well, my mom was suprised to see that in a Philipino dance show, cos it’s also done in Cambodia.

^But the meaning of the dances are quite different. Plus, our Robahm Angre does not use bamboo sticks.

[i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
^But the meaning of the dances are quite different. Plus, our Robahm Angre does not use bamboo sticks.

Robam ong-ray is used of bamboo sticks or two sticks.

Here are some filipino dances and costumes,

http://www.maui.net/~mauidzyn/dance/umbrella_attendant.html

HERE IS THE JANGGAY PAGE

http://www.ilanyo.com/gallery/Dekada/group26.html

[i]Originally posted by duongdara[/i]

[quote]
[i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
^But the meaning of the dances are quite different. Plus, our Robahm Angre does not use bamboo sticks.

Robam ong-ray is used of bamboo sticks or two sticks.[/quote]

Now why would you use bamboo sticks to bohk sroy? I have never seen this dance performed with bamboo sticks, in America and srok Khmer.

[i]Originally posted by Dario[/i]
You know that dance with the bamboo sticks? Where two people are moving it and you have to jump? Well, my mom was suprised to see that in a Philipino dance show, cos it’s also done in Cambodia.

that’s interesting. what is the name of the dance in cambodia that uses bamboo sticks? in the philippines, the “tinikling” uses two bamboo sticks while the “singkil” uses four.

meanwhile, i do agree that filipino dishes tend to be fatty compared to thai and khmer dishes. as for the taste, perhaps the blandness depends on the cook/chef? however, i cannot wholeheartedly agree that filipino dishes tend to be bland in general as our dishes vary from region to region. (btw, the country is made up of more than 7,000 islands ) tagalog dishes may be bland and i am tagalog, but i couldnt say the same for ilocano,pampangueno and bicolano dishes. the use of spices also vary from region to region. babydolish mentioned something about lemongrass. lemongrass locally known as “tanglad” along with “pandan” leaves is used to provide flavor and scent to filipino dishes particularly to regional dishes.both leaves/stalks are also used in filipino desserts and even in boiling rice. however, lemongrass and pandan leaves are particularly hard to find nowadays in the market or even at the neighbors yard.but both are perhaps still used in regional dishes.

tsinoyako, maraming salamat for the info about the “sulat sa tanso” (and to dario too for posting it up). ive never heard or known about it until this thread. tsinoyako, as i know nothing about it, does it predates alibata or baybayin?

From what I read before, I bnelive that it brought our history further back when It was discovered. The question was asked however, why did such a beautiful and complex type of writing be replaced by alibata and babayin….A more primitive and simple type?

Tanglad, Now I remember. We put it in our Tinolang Manik Suop, We also use it for binukol and Sinigang.

Can someone please post a picture of the khmer bamboo dance thtas supposed to be similar to the filipino one.?

Apsara, Another interesting thing is that if you compare the babayin to ancient Mon, and burmese, and some type of early Thai writing, the letters are very similar like the Sylable Ma is the same and the letter U is the same….

I found the following text, but no pics.
Robam Ang-rai:
Similar to the Filipino Bamboo stick dance. It consists of a scene describing the Cambodian villagers’ activities and a dance along with the rhythm of the beating wooden sticks
I think it’s correctly called Robam Bohk Angray.

Hard to find pics, but I found the Thai version, just scroll down on this page.

http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lab/9810/RTT2000.html

I think it’s called Robahm Guos Angre.

Wow, some of the moves do look like our tinikling and the singkil. Another bamboo dance of the Philippines is I think called the Pag Apir.
The tinikling dance has two meanings, It depicts the tikling bird walking through the rice paddies,or some have said it depicts the europeans punishement for the malays. I think. I notice that khmers in Kampuchea wear the sarong wrap. In the philipines we have the patadiong wrap and the malong wrap. Does cambodia have songkhet?

do filipinos consider themselves as asians?

Asian, the ones I know do. I consider myself asian. Why? Alot stereotype people by they’re historical backround. I’ve been in forums where filipinos were the ones trying to act white or hawaiian when they dont even know what hawaiian Poi is. Others look at me as asian.

ok the reason why i ask is because i was talking with my fren(she’s black but i don’t know if that matters) she was telling me how her uncle married a filipino lady. she was saying how filipinos aren’t asian but i didn’t feel like debating with her because i know some filipinos don’t identify themselves as asians anyway…

i consider myself asian.

It also depends on that persons backround and how they live theyre identity. There are filipinos who have parents that tought them how to be anti asian and consider themselves to be something they are not. Then there are those that dont know nothing about there culture and pose it in a stereo type way. For example, HALF of pinoys have european last names so ignorant people will consider them latino when all it is was a decree that was made that colonized chritian malays had to change there names to european names. Thats a big issue too. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Ive always considered myself asian.

[i]Originally posted by TsinoyAko[/i]
It also depends on that persons backround and how they live theyre identity. There are filipinos who have parents that tought them how to be anti asian and consider themselves to be something they are not. Then there are those that dont know nothing about there culture and pose it in a stereo type way. For example, HALF of pinoys have european last names so ignorant people will consider them latino when all it is was a decree that was made that colonized chritian malays had to change there names to european names. Thats a big issue too. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Ive always considered myself asian.

Speaking of the imperialism colonization. I am glad that Cambodian managed to keep our own writing systems instead of using french alphabets like the vietnamese.French tried to convert Cambodia from Buddhism to Christianity or Catholics. That is another thing we are very proud of for our ancestor for not changing our costumes and last name.

my cousin’s son ish flip + cambodian = human being

I totally agree with you. Khmers have kept there pure identity. The philippines do have there own writing system but just like vietnam, it has dwindelled. If you look earlier in this forum, there are some filipino dances and costumes. That is the true filipino culture. all those dances are becoming extinct but now I see it more often. There are three tribes in the philippines that still use there writing system.

Do pinoys have there own version of the Ramayana?

Every country in that region like:
India
Sri Langka
Laos
thai
khmer
malaysia
indonesia
bengladesh
burma
bali

…has there own version of the Ramayana.

[Message last modified 04-04-2003 11:15pm by Point_Dexter]

No, we dont have our own version because the philippines were moslim and animist, we traded with all those other countries but our country never devoloped an Indian based kingdom like Madjapahit. We do have dances like Indarapatra and we do have dances that are similar throughout sothe east asia. The are pictures on this thread I think on page 3 of our dances.