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  • #339679
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    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

    #339690
    Avatar of KomLostBong
    KomLostBong
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    Can a Buddha creats a SIN to whom is not believe and faith on him policy…???

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

    #339700
    Avatar of domra
    domra
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    The Buddha is not responsible for anyone’s sin (barb). He does not create barb for any living beings. Each is responsible for his/her own action, and each will have to live through the consequences. What the Buddha does is show you how to avoid those barbs so that you won’t go to hell by teaching the way, and he does so out of compassion.

    Remember, the Buddha did not create you; therefore, he is not responsible for your sickness and health.

    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    Can a Buddha creats a SIN to whom is not believe and faith on him policy…???
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    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339710
    Avatar of KomLostBong
    KomLostBong
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    So!!!!! The Buddha has no stronger power compare to the Jesus christ’s. and He was not creat human but Jesus did. That is why the Jesus has more stronger power to help the Humans clean all sins, as long as those Humans confess their Sins infront him. I believe most Christian believers will be born in the Heaven more than half, and another’s are still living on here, cuz they still living under the darkness lives…But for the Buddha followers…it seems to have no opportunity to live in Heaven huh!!!…Cuz their master has no strong power to assist them…

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    The Buddha is not responsible for anyone’s sin (barb). He does not create barb for any living beings. Each is responsible for his/her own action, and each will have to live through the consequences. What the Buddha does is show you how to avoid those barbs so that you won’t go to hell by teaching the way, and he does so out of compassion.

    Remember, the Buddha did not create you; therefore, he is not responsible for your sickness and health.

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    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    Can a Buddha creats a SIN to whom is not believe and faith on him policy…???
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    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339719
    Avatar of Fuddyduddy
    Fuddyduddy
    Participant

    It’s easy to see the truth, you just need a little DMT.

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

    #339731
    Avatar of domra
    domra
    Participant

    There are fat people and there are slim people. A fat person is lazy. He lives to eat and eats to die. He holds a can of beer on one hand, and a remote control on the other. A slim person eats to live and takes care of his body through various physical activites. Study has shown that obesity causes more health problems than those who are not overweight. A fat person then prays, “May the Lord thy God help me lose weight.” A slim person does not pray. He just knows how to lose weight.

    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    So!!!!! The Buddha has no stronger power compare to the Jesus christ’s. and He was not creat human but Jesus did. That is why the Jesus has more stronger power to help the Humans clean all sins, as long as those Humans confess their Sins infront him. I believe most Christian believers will be born in the Heaven more than half, and another’s are still living on here, cuz they still living under the darkness lives…But for the Buddha followers…it seems to have no opportunity to live in Heaven huh!!!…Cuz their master has no strong power to assist them…
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    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    The Buddha is not responsible for anyone’s sin (barb). He does not create barb for any living beings. Each is responsible for his/her own action, and each will have to live through the consequences. What the Buddha does is show you how to avoid those barbs so that you won’t go to hell by teaching the way, and he does so out of compassion.

    Remember, the Buddha did not create you; therefore, he is not responsible for your sickness and health.

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    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    Can a Buddha creats a SIN to whom is not believe and faith on him policy…???
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    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339741
    Avatar of domra
    domra
    Participant

    What does “DMT” stand for?

    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    It’s easy to see the truth, you just need a little DMT.

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    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339749
    Avatar of KomLostBong
    KomLostBong
    Participant

    Hello!!! Domra,

    You brough up that sample is not match to this issue at all…What does it mean by fat people pray for loosing weight and slim people dont…??? How can you compare that way…??? its not right!!!

    Can be fat and slim people confess their sins infront the God, cuz they want he to clean for them. Its a Christian’s Policy all about…You they did bad indeed without confession to God…How can God help you??

    How about Buddha….if his followers confess their Sins infront him. Can he help out his people clean sins as well????

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    There are fat people and there are slim people. A fat person is lazy. He lives to eat and eats to die. He holds a can of beer on one hand, and a remote control on the other. A slim person eats to live and takes care of his body through various physical activites. Study has shown that obesity causes more health problems than those who are not overweight. A fat person then prays, “May the Lord thy God help me lose weight.” A slim person does not pray. He just knows how to lose weight.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    So!!!!! The Buddha has no stronger power compare to the Jesus christ’s. and He was not creat human but Jesus did. That is why the Jesus has more stronger power to help the Humans clean all sins, as long as those Humans confess their Sins infront him. I believe most Christian believers will be born in the Heaven more than half, and another’s are still living on here, cuz they still living under the darkness lives…But for the Buddha followers…it seems to have no opportunity to live in Heaven huh!!!…Cuz their master has no strong power to assist them…
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    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    The Buddha is not responsible for anyone’s sin (barb). He does not create barb for any living beings. Each is responsible for his/her own action, and each will have to live through the consequences. What the Buddha does is show you how to avoid those barbs so that you won’t go to hell by teaching the way, and he does so out of compassion.

    Remember, the Buddha did not create you; therefore, he is not responsible for your sickness and health.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    Can a Buddha creats a SIN to whom is not believe and faith on him policy…???
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339760
    Avatar of Fuddyduddy
    Fuddyduddy
    Participant

    Dimethyltryptamine

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    What does “DMT” stand for?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Fuddyduddy[/i]

    It’s easy to see the truth, you just need a little DMT.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339771
    Avatar of KhmerDude978
    KhmerDude978
    Participant

    We all live to die. Seeing is believing, my brother. The question is, why do we exist?

    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    So!!!!! The Buddha has no stronger power compare to the Jesus christ’s. and He was not creat human but Jesus did. That is why the Jesus has more stronger power to help the Humans clean all sins, as long as those Humans confess their Sins infront him. I believe most Christian believers will be born in the Heaven more than half, and another’s are still living on here, cuz they still living under the darkness lives…But for the Buddha followers…it seems to have no opportunity to live in Heaven huh!!!…Cuz their master has no strong power to assist them…
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    The Buddha is not responsible for anyone’s sin (barb). He does not create barb for any living beings. Each is responsible for his/her own action, and each will have to live through the consequences. What the Buddha does is show you how to avoid those barbs so that you won’t go to hell by teaching the way, and he does so out of compassion.

    Remember, the Buddha did not create you; therefore, he is not responsible for your sickness and health.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KomLostBong[/i]
    Can a Buddha creats a SIN to whom is not believe and faith on him policy…???
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    It is hard to preach the Buddha’s teachings to those who are not awake. It’s like taking toys away from a 2- or 3-year-old boy. Do you know what he does when you take his toys away from him? He cries, and cries, and cries, and he won’t stop until you give him back his toys.

    In the same way, when you talk about the Buddha’s teachings to a grown-up man whose desires are on fire, he is not receptive. He will not take it. He will reject it. He will be angry. This is why the Buddha does not teach everyone, because by doing so, he creates sin for that man. Therefore, the Buddha only teaches his teachings to those who are ready.

    But when a man is awake, through his own direct experience, you don’t have to give details from the Buddha’s teachings. All you have to mention is the name Preah Put, and he can relate to that. It’s called “grace.” Why? Because he sees.

    “I considered: ‘This Dhamma that I have attained is profound, hard to see and hard to understand, peaceful and sublime, unattainable by mere reasoning, subtle, to be experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in worldliness, takes delight in worldliness, rejoices in worldliness. It is hard for such a generation to see this truth, namely, specific conditionality, dependent origination. And it is hard to see this truth, namely, the stilling of all formations, the relinquishing of all acquisitions, the destruction of craving, dispassion, cessation, Nibbana.’” MN: 26.19

    What the Buddha is talking about is that, so long as a man is rejoicing in sensual desire (worldliness), he will not see. Desire is like clouds covering the Sun. In order to see the light from the Sun, you must first remove the clouds.

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    #339781
    Avatar of reksmay
    reksmay
    Participant

    it is hard to understand the Buddha’s teachings because we humans have not cultivated enough merits to discern the sublime Dharma.

    the solution is simple, cultivate and keep on cultivating. but, one can’t cultivate until one has understood what it is that one wants.

    does it look like i’m talking in circles? lolz. anyway, a favorite saying is that—everybody’s for himself and his bon. only merits can help a person. no matter how much one talks, if the person doesn’t have it, it is pointless. so.

    #339791
    Avatar of antiquated
    antiquated
    Participant

    Dhamma is beautiful. I use it in my life everyday and I am happy.

    #339803
    Avatar of kulet
    kulet
    Participant

    You guys should look to become monks or lay person.

    #339813
    Avatar of reksmay
    reksmay
    Participant

    Hi!

    we’re lay persons. but, do you know what “bim-bous” mean? it doesn’t have to apply to monks who are ordained.

    [i]Originally posted by kulet[/i]
    You guys should look to become monks or lay person.

    #339824
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    Dear Friends,

    there are four types of people to be found existing in the world:

    Tamonata Sutta: Darkness

    “There are these four types of people to be found existing in the world. Which four? One in darkness who is headed for darkness, one in darkness who is headed for light, one in light who is headed for darkness, and one in light who is headed for light.

    “And how is one the type of person in darkness who is headed for darkness? There is the case where a person is born into a lowly family — the family of a scavenger, a hunter, a basket-weaver, a wheelwright, or a sweeper — a family that is poor, with little food or drink, living in hardship, where food & clothing are hard to come by. And he is ugly, misshapen, stunted, & sickly: half-blind or deformed or lame or crippled. He doesn’t receive any [gifts of] food, drink, clothing, or vehicles; garlands, perfumes, or ointments; bedding, shelter, or lamps. He engages in bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct, & mental misconduct. Having engaged in bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct, & mental misconduct, he — on the break-up of the body, after death — reappears in the plane of deprivation, the bad destination, the lower realms, in hell. This is the type of person in darkness who is headed for darkness.

    “And how is one the type of person in darkness who is headed for light? There is the case where a person is born into a lower class family — the family of a scavenger, a hunter, a basket-weaver, a wheelwright, or a sweeper — a family that is poor, with little food or drink, living in hardship, where food & clothing are hard to come by. And he is ugly, misshapen, stunted, & sickly: half-blind or deformed or lame or crippled. He doesn’t receive any [gifts of] food, drink, clothing, or vehicles; garlands, perfumes, or ointments; bedding, shelter, or lamps. He engages in good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, & good mental conduct. Having engaged in good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, & good mental conduct, he — on the break-up of the body, after death — reappears in the good destination, the heavenly world. This is the type of person in darkness who is headed for light.

    “And how is one the type of person in light who is headed for darkness? There is the case where a person is born into an upper class family — a noble warrior family, a priestly family, a prosperous householder family — a family that is rich, with much wealth, with many possessions, with a great deal of money, a great many accoutrements of wealth, a great many commodities. And he is well-built, handsome, extremely inspiring, endowed with a lotus-like complexion. He receives [gifts of] food, drink, clothing, & vehicles; garlands, perfumes, & ointments; bedding, shelter, & lamps. He engages in bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct, & mental misconduct. Having engaged in bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct, & mental misconduct, he — on the break-up of the body, after death — reappears in the plane of deprivation, the bad destination, the lower realms, in hell. This is the type of person in light who is headed for darkness.

    “And how is one the type of person in light who is headed for light? There is the case where a person is born into an upper class family — a noble warrior family, a priestly family, a prosperous householder family — a family that is rich, with much wealth, with many possessions, with a great deal of money, a great many accoutrements of wealth, a great many commodities. And he is well-built, handsome, extremely inspiring, endowed with a lotus-like complexion. He receives [gifts of] food, drink, clothing, & vehicles; garlands, perfumes, & ointments; bedding, shelter, & lamps. He engages in good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, & good mental conduct. Having engaged in good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, & good mental conduct, he — on the break-up of the body, after death — reappears in the good destination, the heavenly world. This is the type of person in light who is headed for light.

    “These are the four types of people to be found existing in the world.”

    “Tamonata Sutta: Darkness” (AN 4.85), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, July 3, 2010, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an04/an04.085.than.html.

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    Wrong place.

    [Message last modified 01-01-2011 03:00am by domra]

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    Dear friend,

    I just thought it is good to remember that everything is up to one self, this life now and here. This sutta shows clearly that it is not only a matter of past lives and hope of the right merits and enough merits. There are many teachers in south east Asia who are teaching that humans can not archive teachings in this live and waiting for the next Buddha in 2500 years.
    Especial with western influence those kind of teachings are leading to stagnation out of hope and out of fear.

    Indeed it is difficult to understand, but as soon one gets only a little idea the main door is opened. And there are also being never hear dhamma never get dhamma taught who are walking the way.

    That was the reason why I posted it here, the intension was not to disturb the thread.

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    with loving kindness

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