If God created us

Latest Forums Religion If God created us

This topic contains 172 replies, has 0 voices, and was last updated by Profile photo of Diamond2 Diamond2 4 years, 6 months ago.

Viewing 25 posts - 126 through 150 (of 173 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #330127
    Profile photo of Akara143
    Akara143
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 195

    Ahh Legend, did you just google this old 2007 information? heehee

    The Christian Network Daystar is there up and broadcasting again since 2009 til now, I even saw daystar broadcasting live from Israel on Directt 1 years ago…. here read this… http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into

    Back then some Jews didnt believe in Jesus either because they didnt understand it.. one day God will open thier eyes to see and believed…. There will be no jews or gentile.. just one people in Jesus Christ..
    ——

    Christian go visite the holyland to see the place where Jesus was and where everythings took place…

    Legend, I always try to answers your questions.. I never ask you any question or mock your belief.. Even though you mock me and insult my faith… I tried to be nice and try to explain to you so you might understnd… but I see its no use.. argueing … since you dont believe and I do.. so no matter what I say you still wont believe.. waste alot on time..

    The Jews back then they wanted a sign from Jesus, be4 they believe in him.. even though Jesus was healing the sick open the eyes of the blind, heal the paralized man and even raised lazarus from the dead.still not enough sign for them.. just to proove that human being can never be satisfy..

    I’m tired of answering the same things over and over again ..u only ask to mock.. i waste to much time for argueing back and forth..
    so take care good luck…byebye

    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]
    Back in 2007 the Christian missionary Daystar network launched in Israel with much fanfare – with Christian Zionists from Pastor Hagee to the organization Bridges for Peace hailing the opportunity to spread the gospel via television in Israel. But it didn’t take long before public pressure forced the Israeli cable provider HOT to drop Daystar like a hot potato. At the time, the company said it had received numerous complaints about Daystar’s content, and commercials. According to INN News, among the offensive content was a 15-minute infomercial by the American Messianic ministry Jewish Voice Ministries International, which HOT representatives said “targets a Jewish audience with the message of Jesus.”

    Note – Public Pressure forced. Now, what does that tell you?

    There is a diffrence between a Christian going to Israel to preach Christanity, and a Christian who is going to Israel to visit the Holy City.

    I’ve read the bible, but I’m not going to take it as obsolute truth, or fact.

    You have not answered any of my questions.

    “the truth will always be the truth..and the truth is Jesus Christ in the son of God,.. who came down from heaven and died on the cross for the sins of the world, ”

    You speak as the bible is absolute truth when you have no evidence that the events in the Bible did happen, or even correct. However,you say it is the truth because the bible says so, and if you don’t believe in god then

    “Those who reject God and those who doesnt want anything to do with God, along with those who pratice witchcraft, evil magic and idols worshipers….

    God will cast them away in darkness forever…..”

    Don’t you see how dangerous that is? You split people in to two groups, the people who believe and don’t believe or reject the belief of God, or Jesus. They are put aside with the “evil” and “wicked” people.

    Now, imagine if we weren’t as civilized as we are now, you split the world into two groups. The believers and non believers of a belief that is likley not the absolute truth. However, the believers make it out as abolsute truth. What do you think will happen to the non believers?

    Don’t tell me that nothing would happen? Because all you have to do is pull out your history book and you will see.

    [Message last modified 07-08-2010 04:07pm by Legends]

    #330136
    Profile photo of Akara143
    Akara143
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 195

    Khmerin, you edited your word out.. `

    I’m just tired of explainging to you the same things over and over again man… you ask me so that you can mock and insult… waste of time ..I dont wanna be rude… but I will ignore you..

    No thanks, I love the lord God almighty..and his son Jesus Christ.. once you feel God’s love, peace, and blessing.. an experience u cant describe.. ask any true believer in Jesus Christ.. they will tell you..

    take care good luck man byebye

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Hey khmerin,

    Listen up,..

    I didnt say anything that ask you to stop asking…go reread my earlier post again about me asking you to stop… I said why you keep asking the same questions over and over again.. even though I already explain it to you thats all..

    Hey if people have questions about God on here and if I can help I will try to answer them the best of my ability… Im not preaching you..those who wanna know I will tell them about the bible..

    man..stop taking my words and twist it around ..your acting like the serpent in the garden of eden..

    ————-

    You either have faith or you don’t plain and simple… nough said…

    ———

    peace..

    You did not ask me right out to stop asking, but with many of this “ok.. peace out of here topic….” What you mean out of here topic? I know what it means, you are being annoyed by legitimate question that you and even God could not answer, and you try to shoo me away.

    You didn’t answer any question. Not that I expect you to answer something that even God could not understand himself, but just to implore your inner soul, hypothetically. I ask the same questions again and again, because, you are preaching the same quote from the same bibles all the time. Is that fair? :)

    Lol, where did I take your words and twist it around?

    AAHHH, Should I take that as compliment? For without the talking snake, Adam and Eve would probably be still running around naked in the garden. That was why God had the plan to create the talking snake in there. Do you see that?

    [/quote]

    #330146

    Legends
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 611

    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Ahh Legend, did you just google this old 2007 information? heehee

    The Christian Network Daystar is there up and broadcasting again since 2009 til now, I even saw daystar broadcasting live from Israel on Directt 1 years ago…. here read this… http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into

    Back then some Jews didnt believe in Jesus either because they didnt understand it.. one day God will open thier eyes to see and believed…. There will be no jews or gentile.. just one people in Jesus Christ..
    ——

    Christian go visite the holyland to see the place where Jesus was and where everythings took place…

    Legend, I always try to answers your questions.. I never ask you any question or mock your belief.. Even though you mock me and insult my faith… I tried to be nice and try to explain to you so you might understnd… but I see its no use.. argueing … since you dont believe and I do.. so no matter what I say you still wont believe.. waste alot on time..

    The Jews back then they wanted a sign from Jesus, be4 they believe in him.. even though Jesus was healing the sick open the eyes of the blind, heal the paralized man and even raised lazarus from the dead.still not enough sign for them.. just to proove that human being can never be satisfy..

    I’m tired of answering the same things over and over again ..u only ask to mock.. i waste to much time for argueing back and forth..
    so take care good luck…byebye

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]
    Back in 2007 the Christian missionary Daystar network launched in Israel with much fanfare – with Christian Zionists from Pastor Hagee to the organization Bridges for Peace hailing the opportunity to spread the gospel via television in Israel. But it didn’t take long before public pressure forced the Israeli cable provider HOT to drop Daystar like a hot potato. At the time, the company said it had received numerous complaints about Daystar’s content, and commercials. According to INN News, among the offensive content was a 15-minute infomercial by the American Messianic ministry Jewish Voice Ministries International, which HOT representatives said “targets a Jewish audience with the message of Jesus.”

    Note – Public Pressure forced. Now, what does that tell you?

    There is a diffrence between a Christian going to Israel to preach Christanity, and a Christian who is going to Israel to visit the Holy City.

    I’ve read the bible, but I’m not going to take it as obsolute truth, or fact.

    You have not answered any of my questions.

    “the truth will always be the truth..and the truth is Jesus Christ in the son of God,.. who came down from heaven and died on the cross for the sins of the world, ”

    You speak as the bible is absolute truth when you have no evidence that the events in the Bible did happen, or even correct. However,you say it is the truth because the bible says so, and if you don’t believe in god then

    “Those who reject God and those who doesnt want anything to do with God, along with those who pratice witchcraft, evil magic and idols worshipers….

    God will cast them away in darkness forever…..”

    Don’t you see how dangerous that is? You split people in to two groups, the people who believe and don’t believe or reject the belief of God, or Jesus. They are put aside with the “evil” and “wicked” people.

    Now, imagine if we weren’t as civilized as we are now, you split the world into two groups. The believers and non believers of a belief that is likley not the absolute truth. However, the believers make it out as abolsute truth. What do you think will happen to the non believers?

    Don’t tell me that nothing would happen? Because all you have to do is pull out your history book and you will see.

    [Message last modified 07-08-2010 04:07pm by Legends]

    [/quote]

    I know it is back up, but don’t you see why it was shut down before? And, it’s funny how the link says ttp://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into , daystar creeps back into. Why does it have to creep back into?

    I haven’t mocked your belief, I only point out the flaws. It seems you are the one on the offensive. If you are trying to tell us your belief is the absolute truth or the only truth, then at least give us reasonable answers, instead of just quoting things from the Bible, and threatening us with “Gods” wrath of doom. Your faith stems from the Bible, and the Bible is filled with contradictions, and things that don’t seem logical. So, try to at least try to think for yourself, and leave the bible somewhere else, it is obviously the problem.

    #330158
    Profile photo of domra
    domra
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 176

    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Ahh Legend, did you just google this old 2007 information? heehee

    The Christian Network Daystar is there up and broadcasting again since 2009 til now, I even saw daystar broadcasting live from Israel on Directt 1 years ago…. here read this… http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into

    Back then some Jews didnt believe in Jesus either because they didnt understand it.. one day God will open thier eyes to see and believed…. There will be no jews or gentile.. just one people in Jesus Christ..
    ——

    Christian go visite the holyland to see the place where Jesus was and where everythings took place…

    Legend, I always try to answers your questions.. I never ask you any question or mock your belief.. Even though you mock me and insult my faith… I tried to be nice and try to explain to you so you might understnd… but I see its no use.. argueing … since you dont believe and I do.. so no matter what I say you still wont believe.. waste alot on time..

    The Jews back then they wanted a sign from Jesus, be4 they believe in him.. even though Jesus was healing the sick open the eyes of the blind, heal the paralized man and even raised lazarus from the dead.still not enough sign for them.. just to proove that human being can never be satisfy..

    I’m tired of answering the same things over and over again ..u only ask to mock.. i waste to much time for argueing back and forth..
    so take care good luck…byebye

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]
    Back in 2007 the Christian missionary Daystar network launched in Israel with much fanfare – with Christian Zionists from Pastor Hagee to the organization Bridges for Peace hailing the opportunity to spread the gospel via television in Israel. But it didn’t take long before public pressure forced the Israeli cable provider HOT to drop Daystar like a hot potato. At the time, the company said it had received numerous complaints about Daystar’s content, and commercials. According to INN News, among the offensive content was a 15-minute infomercial by the American Messianic ministry Jewish Voice Ministries International, which HOT representatives said “targets a Jewish audience with the message of Jesus.”

    Note – Public Pressure forced. Now, what does that tell you?

    There is a diffrence between a Christian going to Israel to preach Christanity, and a Christian who is going to Israel to visit the Holy City.

    I’ve read the bible, but I’m not going to take it as obsolute truth, or fact.

    You have not answered any of my questions.

    “the truth will always be the truth..and the truth is Jesus Christ in the son of God,.. who came down from heaven and died on the cross for the sins of the world, ”

    You speak as the bible is absolute truth when you have no evidence that the events in the Bible did happen, or even correct. However,you say it is the truth because the bible says so, and if you don’t believe in god then

    “Those who reject God and those who doesnt want anything to do with God, along with those who pratice witchcraft, evil magic and idols worshipers….

    God will cast them away in darkness forever…..”

    Don’t you see how dangerous that is? You split people in to two groups, the people who believe and don’t believe or reject the belief of God, or Jesus. They are put aside with the “evil” and “wicked” people.

    Now, imagine if we weren’t as civilized as we are now, you split the world into two groups. The believers and non believers of a belief that is likley not the absolute truth. However, the believers make it out as abolsute truth. What do you think will happen to the non believers?

    Don’t tell me that nothing would happen? Because all you have to do is pull out your history book and you will see.

    [Message last modified 07-08-2010 04:07pm by Legends]

    [/quote]

    I know it is back up, but don’t you see why it was shut down before? And, it’s funny how the link says ttp://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into , daystar creeps back into. Why does it have to creep back into?

    I haven’t mocked your belief, I only point out the flaws. It seems you are the one on the offensive. If you are trying to tell us your belief is the absolute truth or the only truth, then at least give us reasonable answers, instead of just quoting things from the Bible, and threatening us with “Gods” wrath of doom. Your faith stems from the Bible, and the Bible is filled with contradictions, and things that don’t seem logical. So, try to at least try to think for yourself, and leave the bible somewhere else, it is obviously the problem.

    [/quote]

    Legends, if I may, Christians have been trying extremely hard to convince people to believe that their religion is the absolute truth, the only one and only true religion on the planet earth. All other religions are false. They say something like, “Let those with ears hear.” This is really a mockery. It means that only Christians are wise; the rest are ignorant and arrogant.

    It is not hard at all to dissect this in a logical way. Take diamond as an example. Have you ever heard a piece of diamond telling you, “I’m the only true stone, the absolute stone that shines?” No. It just shines. Have you heard a piece of diamond saying, “I’m stronger than steel?” No. It just cuts steel. In the same way, truth does not need to be convinced.

    Christians, once completely brain-washed, will not admit that their Bible is a book of contradictions. They will come back with more quotes, “The Bibles says,…, According to the Bible…” I give you one example. Christians claim that they don’t trust man, referring to the Buddha. But they trust the Bible. But who wrote the Bible? Man. Who is man? Sinner. Since every man is sinner (so they claim), and the Bible is written by man, it implies that the Bible is sinned. This is a big-time contradiction. Yet, Christians refuse to acknowledge this one piece of truth, either they cannot see it, or see it but ignore it.

    They claim they want to hear the truth. But when the truth is presented to them, they say you insult them. You mock them. You are a person full of hatred, bitterness, blah blah blah, and they will pray for you.

    It is such a mess.

    God (assuming he exists) does not belong to any religious sect. Christians don’t own God. Therefore, you don’t need to be a Christian in order to believe in God, unless you are brain-washed. You don’t need to go to Church to pray to God, because God does not live in the Church.

    #330168
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    You did see I wrote that God never sinned? Destruction came with Adam sinned.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Kaliboy,

    God never sin. Human sinned. Our human father father sinned, failed, betryed God, got condemned. God win . Human lose. I lose. I surrendered. Game over. Conflicts freed.

    When did sin enter the garden of eden? Before or after the garden was created? Was God himself sinner?
    [/quote]

    #330176
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    I think children under 10 yr go to heaven when they died. God forgives them.

    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    Okay. Adam and Eve sinned by choice. They knowingly betrayed God’s trust by disobeying. My nephew, or any other young child should’nt be labeled as a sinner since they know nothing. For your GOD to say they were born into this world which automatically makes them sinner is BS. Utter BullShiet!
    Lemme guess your reply; “Thats how GOD works. He has a plan and he is perfect.” Please… spare me that crap!
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Kaliboy,

    God never sin. Human sinned. Our human father father sinned, failed, betryed God, got condemned. God win . Human lose. I lose. I surrendered. Game over. Conflicts freed.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    I love my wife. Like God, I make her show her love for me by putting her through tests. If she fails those tests; I will throw her in a lake of fire to burn for eternity. Why? Because I love her!

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:33am by Akara143]

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:56am by Akara143][/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #330187
    Profile photo of Akara143
    Akara143
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 195

    Legend, read what you wrote in your previous post, your funny line and laugh… isnt that mocking…

    man..your lying through your teeth.. your wrong maany times.. you cant admite that your wrong huh.. ..its ok.. heehee

    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]

    I don’t know why God allowed it to be there… the bible just say it was there… and Adam and Eve disobey God…

    [/quote]

    I thought that was funny, thanks for the laugh :):)[/quote]

    #330197
    Profile photo of Akara143
    Akara143
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 195

    No you never mock my belief.. Lengend never lied….he’s a good guy ..heehee

    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    I haven’t mocked your belief, I only point out the flaws. It seems you are the one on the offensive. If you are trying to tell us your belief is the absolute truth or the only truth, then at least give us reasonable answers, instead of just quoting things from the Bible, and threatening us with “Gods” wrath of doom. Your faith stems from the Bible, and the Bible is filled with contradictions, and things that don’t seem logical. So, try to at least try to think for yourself, and leave the bible somewhere else, it is obviously the problem.

    #330205

    Legends
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 611

    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Legend, read what you wrote in your previous post, your funny line and laugh… isnt that mocking…

    man..your lying through your teeth.. your wrong maany times.. you cant admite that your wrong huh.. ..its ok.. heehee

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]

    I don’t know why God allowed it to be there… the bible just say it was there… and Adam and Eve disobey God…

    [/quote]

    I thought that was funny, thanks for the laugh :):)[/quote]
    [/quote]

    Perhaps you should read it carefully. I did not mock your belief or religion. I quoted only your statement instead of your whole post – “I don’t know why God allowed it to be there… the bible just say it was there… and Adam and Eve disobey God…”.

    Do you not see what is comical about that statement? Let me help you, You said that you don’t know why god put the snake in the garden of Eden. Then you said, but the bible just says it was there.

    I don’t know why… uh but the bible says so.

    (Job 37:18 NRSV) Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?

    I don’t know why God spread out the skies and made it hard like molten mirror, but the bible says so, so it’s true and it’s there.

    Oh wait, the sky isn’t hard is it?

    or

    (Job 38:13 NIV) that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it.

    I don’t know why God made the earth flat, but the bible says so, so it must be true.

    Oh wait, the earth is Spherical. It’s impossible to shake anything off of it.

    If you don’t get it by now then, I really don’t know what to say. It’s fine to have your faith in Jesus Christ, and God. But at least think for yourself before trying to judge things as right or wrong, instead of having to rely on someone or something. You aren’t a drone, your a human being. Didn’t you say god gave us “free will”, apparently to some of us it isn’t true.

    #330216

    Legends
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 611

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Ahh Legend, did you just google this old 2007 information? heehee

    The Christian Network Daystar is there up and broadcasting again since 2009 til now, I even saw daystar broadcasting live from Israel on Directt 1 years ago…. here read this… http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into

    Back then some Jews didnt believe in Jesus either because they didnt understand it.. one day God will open thier eyes to see and believed…. There will be no jews or gentile.. just one people in Jesus Christ..
    ——

    Christian go visite the holyland to see the place where Jesus was and where everythings took place…

    Legend, I always try to answers your questions.. I never ask you any question or mock your belief.. Even though you mock me and insult my faith… I tried to be nice and try to explain to you so you might understnd… but I see its no use.. argueing … since you dont believe and I do.. so no matter what I say you still wont believe.. waste alot on time..

    The Jews back then they wanted a sign from Jesus, be4 they believe in him.. even though Jesus was healing the sick open the eyes of the blind, heal the paralized man and even raised lazarus from the dead.still not enough sign for them.. just to proove that human being can never be satisfy..

    I’m tired of answering the same things over and over again ..u only ask to mock.. i waste to much time for argueing back and forth..
    so take care good luck…byebye

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]
    Back in 2007 the Christian missionary Daystar network launched in Israel with much fanfare – with Christian Zionists from Pastor Hagee to the organization Bridges for Peace hailing the opportunity to spread the gospel via television in Israel. But it didn’t take long before public pressure forced the Israeli cable provider HOT to drop Daystar like a hot potato. At the time, the company said it had received numerous complaints about Daystar’s content, and commercials. According to INN News, among the offensive content was a 15-minute infomercial by the American Messianic ministry Jewish Voice Ministries International, which HOT representatives said “targets a Jewish audience with the message of Jesus.”

    Note – Public Pressure forced. Now, what does that tell you?

    There is a diffrence between a Christian going to Israel to preach Christanity, and a Christian who is going to Israel to visit the Holy City.

    I’ve read the bible, but I’m not going to take it as obsolute truth, or fact.

    You have not answered any of my questions.

    “the truth will always be the truth..and the truth is Jesus Christ in the son of God,.. who came down from heaven and died on the cross for the sins of the world, ”

    You speak as the bible is absolute truth when you have no evidence that the events in the Bible did happen, or even correct. However,you say it is the truth because the bible says so, and if you don’t believe in god then

    “Those who reject God and those who doesnt want anything to do with God, along with those who pratice witchcraft, evil magic and idols worshipers….

    God will cast them away in darkness forever…..”

    Don’t you see how dangerous that is? You split people in to two groups, the people who believe and don’t believe or reject the belief of God, or Jesus. They are put aside with the “evil” and “wicked” people.

    Now, imagine if we weren’t as civilized as we are now, you split the world into two groups. The believers and non believers of a belief that is likley not the absolute truth. However, the believers make it out as abolsute truth. What do you think will happen to the non believers?

    Don’t tell me that nothing would happen? Because all you have to do is pull out your history book and you will see.

    [Message last modified 07-08-2010 04:07pm by Legends]

    [/quote]

    I know it is back up, but don’t you see why it was shut down before? And, it’s funny how the link says ttp://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into , daystar creeps back into. Why does it have to creep back into?

    I haven’t mocked your belief, I only point out the flaws. It seems you are the one on the offensive. If you are trying to tell us your belief is the absolute truth or the only truth, then at least give us reasonable answers, instead of just quoting things from the Bible, and threatening us with “Gods” wrath of doom. Your faith stems from the Bible, and the Bible is filled with contradictions, and things that don’t seem logical. So, try to at least try to think for yourself, and leave the bible somewhere else, it is obviously the problem.

    [/quote]

    Legends, if I may, Christians have been trying extremely hard to convince people to believe that their religion is the absolute truth, the only one and only true religion on the planet earth. All other religions are false. They say something like, “Let those with ears hear.” This is really a mockery. It means that only Christians are wise; the rest are ignorant and arrogant.

    It is not hard at all to dissect this in a logical way. Take diamond as an example. Have you ever heard a piece of diamond telling you, “I’m the only true stone, the absolute stone that shines?” No. It just shines. Have you heard a piece of diamond saying, “I’m stronger than steel?” No. It just cuts steel. In the same way, truth does not need to be convinced.

    Christians, once completely brain-washed, will not admit that their Bible is a book of contradictions. They will come back with more quotes, “The Bibles says,…, According to the Bible…” I give you one example. Christians claim that they don’t trust man, referring to the Buddha. But they trust the Bible. But who wrote the Bible? Man. Who is man? Sinner. Since every man is sinner (so they claim), and the Bible is written by man, it implies that the Bible is sinned. This is a big-time contradiction. Yet, Christians refuse to acknowledge this one piece of truth, either they cannot see it, or see it but ignore it.

    They claim they want to hear the truth. But when the truth is presented to them, they say you insult them. You mock them. You are a person full of hatred, bitterness, blah blah blah, and they will pray for you.

    It is such a mess.

    God (assuming he exists) does not belong to any religious sect. Christians don’t own God. Therefore, you don’t need to be a Christian in order to believe in God, unless you are brain-washed. You don’t need to go to Church to pray to God, because God does not live in the Church.

    [/quote]

    Thanks for the reply Domra, you are right in what you say, it is evident in this whole thread. However, I feel that not all Christians are like this, that there are Christians who have an open mind, who allow other thoughts into their own beliefs as well as respectively share their own beliefs. Hopefully we don’t get christian fanatics saying that they are not “True Christians”.

    I feel that Jesus teachings are similar to Buddha’s teachings. The Christians that act on Jesus teachings and do something to help the world and mankind or even just to truly respect their fellow man, instead of preaching, and judging right or wrong to the world are the ones to truly respect.

    #330226
    Profile photo of Kaliboy
    Kaliboy
    Participant
    3p
    • Posts: 5607

    You think kids under 10 go to heaven automatically? How so? Is it written in the bible or are you just assuming things?

    I didnt know you decided who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.

    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    I think children under 10 yr go to heaven when they died. God forgives them.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    Okay. Adam and Eve sinned by choice. They knowingly betrayed God’s trust by disobeying. My nephew, or any other young child should’nt be labeled as a sinner since they know nothing. For your GOD to say they were born into this world which automatically makes them sinner is BS. Utter BullShiet!
    Lemme guess your reply; “Thats how GOD works. He has a plan and he is perfect.” Please… spare me that crap!
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Kaliboy,

    God never sin. Human sinned. Our human father father sinned, failed, betryed God, got condemned. God win . Human lose. I lose. I surrendered. Game over. Conflicts freed.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    I love my wife. Like God, I make her show her love for me by putting her through tests. If she fails those tests; I will throw her in a lake of fire to burn for eternity. Why? Because I love her!

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:33am by Akara143]

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:56am by Akara143][/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #330235
    Profile photo of khemrin
    khemrin
    Participant
    4p
    • Posts: 3291

    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Khmerin, you edited your word out.. `

    I’m just tired of explainging to you the same things over and over again man… you ask me so that you can mock and insult… waste of time ..I dont wanna be rude… but I will ignore you..

    No thanks, I love the lord God almighty..and his son Jesus Christ.. once you feel God’s love, peace, and blessing.. an experience u cant describe.. ask any true believer in Jesus Christ.. they will tell you..

    take care good luck man byebye

    Never edit out anything

    You just see thing that was not there in the first place.

    No problem you can ignore me, but remember, as a friendly advice, the Genesis, read no further. Where it all began(according to the fairy tale), the mother of all lies, deception and betrayal.

    Since sin is the ultimate central idea of motivation for redemption in this religion. Even Christian God was so obsessed with the idea of sin cleansing that he would later kill millions of people, and finally sent his son to be tortured and killed on the cross to save Christian souls.

    As we tracked down the origin of this “original sin”, we found that it all began in the garden of eden. where Christian had just created for his newly created couple Adam and Eve. However, there was another more powerful character in there, the talking snake, that would later alter everything, in the garden of eden, and thus all almighty God’s plan for his creation.

    This talking snake was so powerful, more powerful than Christian God him/herself that they would later defy his curse and would never eat dirt as long as they exist.

    Consider: There were four main character in the garden of eden: Adam, Eve, the talking and Christian God.

    Then ask:

    Who created the talking snake?

    Who was in charge in the garden, the talking snake or God?

    Who was responsible for the fall out in the story: the talking snake, Adam, eve or Christian God?

    THINK:……..

    #330246
    Profile photo of khemrin
    khemrin
    Participant
    4p
    • Posts: 3291

    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    Hopefully we don’t get christian fanatics saying that they are not “True Christians”.

    I feel that Jesus teachings are similar to Buddha’s teachings. The Christians that act on Jesus teachings and do something to help the world and mankind or even just to truly respect their fellow man, instead of preaching, and judging right or wrong to the world are the ones to truly respect.

    Legend,

    I have met and worked with a lot of Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or even atheist, but I always am able to respectfully joke around with regard to their religion or mine. But I can never joke with Khmer Christian, about their new found faith in Lord Jesus Christ. Not even my own nephew, who was converted to Jehovah Witness. We met up in Cambodia last year, but nothing about religion. I did my own thing and he did his own thing. All I could tell him was, insinuatingly, that be careful what you are getting into. Those who wrote these bibles were not stupid. And these who converted you are not stupid.

    Since he was converted, first he lose his job(because he was on a full time knock-on-door-to-door), then his house, and now he is losing his children…

    #330255
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Kaliboy,

    Jesus said unless your heart is as pure as little kids, you will never enter the kindom of heaven. In heaven, people’s are so pure like little kid. So that mean kids will go to heaven. God can do anything and he loves little ones.

    #330265
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    I rather follow God and stay home with my kid rather than follow religion like Jehova Witness.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    Hopefully we don’t get christian fanatics saying that they are not “True Christians”.

    I feel that Jesus teachings are similar to Buddha’s teachings. The Christians that act on Jesus teachings and do something to help the world and mankind or even just to truly respect their fellow man, instead of preaching, and judging right or wrong to the world are the ones to truly respect.

    Legend,

    I have met and worked with a lot of Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or even atheist, but I always am able to respectfully joke around with regard to their religion or mine. But I can never joke with Khmer Christian, about their new found faith in Lord Jesus Christ. Not even my own nephew, who was converted to Jehovah Witness. We met up in Cambodia last year, but nothing about religion. I did my own thing and he did his own thing. All I could tell him was, insinuatingly, that be careful what you are getting into. Those who wrote these bibles were not stupid. And these who converted you are not stupid.

    Since he was converted, first he lose his job(because he was on a full time knock-on-door-to-door), then his house, and now he is losing his children… [/quote]

    #330275
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Akara 143

    How r you? What religion are belonged to? For me, I only believe, trust, respect God and stay home.

    #330285
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Angels rebelled against God and got casted down from heaven. God created men. Evil waiting to capture men from God. God gave men choices. Good or evil. Men made wrong choices. Men failed. Men chose. God did not chose. God wants to see if men repented so he can love them again. Some did but most not. Men failed.

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Khmerin, you edited your word out.. `

    I’m just tired of explainging to you the same things over and over again man… you ask me so that you can mock and insult… waste of time ..I dont wanna be rude… but I will ignore you..

    No thanks, I love the lord God almighty..and his son Jesus Christ.. once you feel God’s love, peace, and blessing.. an experience u cant describe.. ask any true believer in Jesus Christ.. they will tell you..

    take care good luck man byebye

    Never edit out anything

    You just see thing that was not there in the first place.

    No problem you can ignore me, but remember, as a friendly advice, the Genesis, read no further. Where it all began(according to the fairy tale), the mother of all lies, deception and betrayal.

    Since sin is the ultimate central idea of motivation for redemption in this religion. Even Christian God was so obsessed with the idea of sin cleansing that he would later kill millions of people, and finally sent his son to be tortured and killed on the cross to save Christian souls.

    As we tracked down the origin of this “original sin”, we found that it all began in the garden of eden. where Christian had just created for his newly created couple Adam and Eve. However, there was another more powerful character in there, the talking snake, that would later alter everything, in the garden of eden, and thus all almighty God’s plan for his creation.

    This talking snake was so powerful, more powerful than Christian God him/herself that they would later defy his curse and would never eat dirt as long as they exist.

    Consider: There were four main character in the garden of eden: Adam, Eve, the talking and Christian God.

    Then ask:

    Who created the talking snake?

    Who was in charge in the garden, the talking snake or God?

    Who was responsible for the fall out in the story: the talking snake, Adam, eve or Christian God?

    THINK:……..[/quote]

    #330295
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Whoever have more power advantages will win.

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Ahh Legend, did you just google this old 2007 information? heehee

    The Christian Network Daystar is there up and broadcasting again since 2009 til now, I even saw daystar broadcasting live from Israel on Directt 1 years ago…. here read this… http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into

    Back then some Jews didnt believe in Jesus either because they didnt understand it.. one day God will open thier eyes to see and believed…. There will be no jews or gentile.. just one people in Jesus Christ..
    ——

    Christian go visite the holyland to see the place where Jesus was and where everythings took place…

    Legend, I always try to answers your questions.. I never ask you any question or mock your belief.. Even though you mock me and insult my faith… I tried to be nice and try to explain to you so you might understnd… but I see its no use.. argueing … since you dont believe and I do.. so no matter what I say you still wont believe.. waste alot on time..

    The Jews back then they wanted a sign from Jesus, be4 they believe in him.. even though Jesus was healing the sick open the eyes of the blind, heal the paralized man and even raised lazarus from the dead.still not enough sign for them.. just to proove that human being can never be satisfy..

    I’m tired of answering the same things over and over again ..u only ask to mock.. i waste to much time for argueing back and forth..
    so take care good luck…byebye

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]
    Back in 2007 the Christian missionary Daystar network launched in Israel with much fanfare – with Christian Zionists from Pastor Hagee to the organization Bridges for Peace hailing the opportunity to spread the gospel via television in Israel. But it didn’t take long before public pressure forced the Israeli cable provider HOT to drop Daystar like a hot potato. At the time, the company said it had received numerous complaints about Daystar’s content, and commercials. According to INN News, among the offensive content was a 15-minute infomercial by the American Messianic ministry Jewish Voice Ministries International, which HOT representatives said “targets a Jewish audience with the message of Jesus.”

    Note – Public Pressure forced. Now, what does that tell you?

    There is a diffrence between a Christian going to Israel to preach Christanity, and a Christian who is going to Israel to visit the Holy City.

    I’ve read the bible, but I’m not going to take it as obsolute truth, or fact.

    You have not answered any of my questions.

    “the truth will always be the truth..and the truth is Jesus Christ in the son of God,.. who came down from heaven and died on the cross for the sins of the world, ”

    You speak as the bible is absolute truth when you have no evidence that the events in the Bible did happen, or even correct. However,you say it is the truth because the bible says so, and if you don’t believe in god then

    “Those who reject God and those who doesnt want anything to do with God, along with those who pratice witchcraft, evil magic and idols worshipers….

    God will cast them away in darkness forever…..”

    Don’t you see how dangerous that is? You split people in to two groups, the people who believe and don’t believe or reject the belief of God, or Jesus. They are put aside with the “evil” and “wicked” people.

    Now, imagine if we weren’t as civilized as we are now, you split the world into two groups. The believers and non believers of a belief that is likley not the absolute truth. However, the believers make it out as abolsute truth. What do you think will happen to the non believers?

    Don’t tell me that nothing would happen? Because all you have to do is pull out your history book and you will see.

    [Message last modified 07-08-2010 04:07pm by Legends]

    [/quote]

    I know it is back up, but don’t you see why it was shut down before? And, it’s funny how the link says ttp://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daystar-creeps-back-into , daystar creeps back into. Why does it have to creep back into?

    I haven’t mocked your belief, I only point out the flaws. It seems you are the one on the offensive. If you are trying to tell us your belief is the absolute truth or the only truth, then at least give us reasonable answers, instead of just quoting things from the Bible, and threatening us with “Gods” wrath of doom. Your faith stems from the Bible, and the Bible is filled with contradictions, and things that don’t seem logical. So, try to at least try to think for yourself, and leave the bible somewhere else, it is obviously the problem.

    [/quote]

    Legends, if I may, Christians have been trying extremely hard to convince people to believe that their religion is the absolute truth, the only one and only true religion on the planet earth. All other religions are false. They say something like, “Let those with ears hear.” This is really a mockery. It means that only Christians are wise; the rest are ignorant and arrogant.

    It is not hard at all to dissect this in a logical way. Take diamond as an example. Have you ever heard a piece of diamond telling you, “I’m the only true stone, the absolute stone that shines?” No. It just shines. Have you heard a piece of diamond saying, “I’m stronger than steel?” No. It just cuts steel. In the same way, truth does not need to be convinced.

    Christians, once completely brain-washed, will not admit that their Bible is a book of contradictions. They will come back with more quotes, “The Bibles says,…, According to the Bible…” I give you one example. Christians claim that they don’t trust man, referring to the Buddha. But they trust the Bible. But who wrote the Bible? Man. Who is man? Sinner. Since every man is sinner (so they claim), and the Bible is written by man, it implies that the Bible is sinned. This is a big-time contradiction. Yet, Christians refuse to acknowledge this one piece of truth, either they cannot see it, or see it but ignore it.

    They claim they want to hear the truth. But when the truth is presented to them, they say you insult them. You mock them. You are a person full of hatred, bitterness, blah blah blah, and they will pray for you.

    It is such a mess.

    God (assuming he exists) does not belong to any religious sect. Christians don’t own God. Therefore, you don’t need to be a Christian in order to believe in God, unless you are brain-washed. You don’t need to go to Church to pray to God, because God does not live in the Church.

    [/quote]

    #330439
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Just because I think, it doesn’t mean I have the power. Otherwise i would have been God. Sometimes you think too like for example, if I study very hard tonight, I think, I’m sure, I’m positive that my grade will be better than not studying the night before. Also, I think I will not be good at Algebra because I couldn’t even know to add 1+1= what?

    Originally posted by Kaliboy
    You think kids under 10 go to heaven automatically? How so? Is it written in the bible or are you just assuming things?

    I didnt know you decided who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.

    Originally posted by Hollycow
    I think children under 10 yr go to heaven when they died. God forgives them.

    [Message last modified 07-11-2010 06:48pm by Hollycow]

    #330305
    Profile photo of Akara143
    Akara143
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 195

    Hello Hollycow,

    I’m doing fine, just abit tired .. thanks hollycow,..how are you bro?

    I am a Christian bro.. I’ve been a born again Christian for about umm 15 years now.. Its been a long journey..I can be a hard headed sometimes.. but its worth it..gotten closer and closer to God..:)

    life can be difficult at times but I can do all things through Jesus Christ who strenghten me.. bro..

    Dont be discourage brother…keep your eyes on the lord Jesus Christ ..everythings will be okay..God’s love will sustain..

    bro check out http://www.kwve.com

    Christian Radio live 24/7 …

    God bless you bro..

    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Akara 143

    How r you? What religion are belonged to? For me, I only believe, trust, respect God and stay home.

    #330328
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Akara 143,

    So you not belong to a specific church or anything right? For me yes. Were you born in the US? Did you get a good education here too. It’s good that you didn’t belong to a gang. Have you ever been involved in any bad company? You can ask about me too, I don’t care. God bless you friend.

    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Hello Hollycow,

    I’m doing fine, just abit tired .. thanks hollycow,..how are you bro?

    I am a Christian bro.. I’ve been a born again Christian for about umm 15 years now.. Its been a long journey..I can be a hard headed sometimes.. but its worth it..gotten closer and closer to God..:)

    life can be difficult at times but I can do all things through Jesus Christ who strenghten me.. bro..

    Dont be discourage brother…keep your eyes on the lord Jesus Christ ..everythings will be okay..God’s love will sustain..

    bro check out http://www.kwve.com

    Christian Radio live 24/7 …

    God bless you bro..

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Akara 143

    How r you? What religion are belonged to? For me, I only believe, trust, respect God and stay home.

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 07-11-2010 07:08am by Hollycow]

    #330337
    Profile photo of Hollycow
    Hollycow
    Participant
    0p
    • Posts: 1021

    Khemrin,

    You said the talking snake was very powerful than God. It’s not true. God used it to test us so that he is looking good. He could have stopped it but if he stopped it (from happening), it would better if he created man to be a robotic human being that have no heart or feelings and being constantly controlled left and right. Imagine if you have a good hearted and a really beautiful girl friend, would you lock her up in your room all the time because you don’t want to lose her? Or would you let her out sometimes? That’s what God did, let us out and he is willing to lose us even he loved us. He wants to test us if we are really for him or doesn’t care. That’s why he allowed the evil casted out from heaven to test humans to see if they really love him. He hates robotic human being. He loves us with our own permission. He doesn’t force us to love him. But he is so selfish to create some paradise for those who hated him. He loves to take revenge instead, to make him looked good. He wanted to look good, I guess.

    How about you guys out there that have lost your beloved girl friends in the past to another man better looking or richer than you, wouldn’t you hope that that ex girlfriend of yours be humbled by life someday? Same with God. He wishes that we are pounded by harsh life so that we are apologizing to him and ask for forgiveness, so that he’s looking good, or winning over us.

    But for me, since he is more like Hun Sen(not exactly) so I have to watch my language because I have no power like him. I have to respect him because I have no power. If I have power, I would not need God. Would you too? If you have power to defend yourself from God, wouldn’t you declare yourself free from God?

    For those who think that the Bible is fake, then they are pretty much independenced from God’s colonization. He only colonized those who truely chooses him. If ones doesn’t chooses him, he will not cared.

    .
    .
    .

    [Message last modified 07-11-2010 07:40am by Hollycow]

    #330346
    Profile photo of khemrin
    khemrin
    Participant
    4p
    • Posts: 3291

    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    You [b]think[/b] kids under 10 go to heaven automatically? How so? Is it written in the bible or are you just assuming things?

    I didnt know you decided who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    I think children under 10 yr go to heaven when they died. God forgives them.

    Regardless of their age, after certain day after they are born, they need to be baptized by the priest to cleanse their inherited sin from Adam and Eve. As this is called born sinner. When Jesus was born he was not baptized, till much later, baptized by John. So till he was still a sinner, he also preached his gospel.

    So, hollycow, and hopefully the mainstream Christian denominations, is acceptable to change to ten years old(:)), and rewrite the bible to be more inclusive, perhaps. Stay tuned.

    #330356
    Profile photo of khemrin
    khemrin
    Participant
    4p
    • Posts: 3291

    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Angels rebelled against God and got casted down from heaven. God created men. Evil waiting to capture men from God. God gave men choices. Good or evil. Men made wrong choices. Men failed. Men chose. God did not chose. God wants to see if men repented so he can love them again. Some did but most not. Men failed.

    This is funny. But it is ok. I will play along that idea. Angels rebel against God in heaven. So when God came down to created another earth and the garden for his newly created couple, they decided to tag along with God and by accidence he was there inside the garden of eden…

    God gave Adam and Eve the matter of life and death choice to make, but not their knowledge and conscience to make the informed decision …How does that add up? You, as parent, basically gave the your infant child to decide what to do with the poisonous snake in the room…Is that what you would do with your child as loving and responsible parent?

    #330368
    Profile photo of khemrin
    khemrin
    Participant
    4p
    • Posts: 3291

    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]
    Khemrin,

    You said the talking snake was very powerful than God. It’s not true. God used it to test us so that he is looking good. He could have stopped it but if he stopped it (from happening), it would better if he created man to be a robotic human being that have no heart or feelings and being constantly controlled left and right. Imagine if you have a good hearted and a really beautiful girl friend, would you lock her up in your room all the time because you don’t want to lose her? Or would you let her out sometimes? That’s what God did, let us out and he is willing to lose us even he loved us. He wants to test us if we are really for him or doesn’t care. That’s why he allowed the evil casted out from heaven to test humans to see if they really love him. He hates robotic human being. He loves us with our own permission. He doesn’t force us to love him. But he is so selfish to create some paradise for those who hated him. He loves to take revenge instead, to make him looked good. He wanted to look good, I guess.

    According to the fairy tale in the Genesis, the talking snake was more powerful than Christian God. He was the one who called the shot with Adam and Eve, after Christian God neglect them. He who gave them the knowledge, by giving them the fruit of knowledge. This knowledge would later prove to be the tool for them to survive. While God just cursed them and casted them away, putting the ring of fire to prevent them from coming back. The snake would later defy God’s curse, by not eating dirt.

    I would let her out. But not locked her with the hunk of the town, and test to see if they are gonna be loyal to me. That would be beyond stupid.

    God’s revenge, to look good? Now that is believe, no amount of faith would be able to swallow that one. But that is ok, it is just your opinion.

    [i]Originally posted by Hollycow[/i]

    For those who think that the Bible is fake, then they are pretty much independenced from God’s colonization. He only colonized those who truely chooses him. If ones doesn’t chooses him, he will not cared.

    [Message last modified 07-11-2010 07:40am by Hollycow]

    Yes, that is probably the only thing I can relate to: God only care about colonization. Once he.she conquer your heart, he/she would leave you dried, bibles in your hand, open heart and soulless.

    I would like to be free from God’s colony.

Viewing 25 posts - 126 through 150 (of 173 total)