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  • #329378
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    [i]Originally posted by Diamond2[/i]
    If God created heaven. How many step of heavens should humans reached him?

    According to Sinsisamouth, heaven is not faraway!

    #329388
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    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Diamond ….hehee..
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    God didnt choose Israel (Jewish people ) because they were the better peoples…No…God does not discriminate….but God do love people who believe and have faith in him…
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    Back in the old old days …In Genesis 12….

    There was a man name Abram later his name became Abraham… Abraham believed in God…because of Abraham faith in God…God blessed Abraham… God made covenant with Abraham…and with Abraham descendants…any many nations will be blessed too,
    because of Abraham faith in God..

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    Later Abraham has a son name Isaac….Later Isaac has a son name Jacob… and Jacob later became the nation Israel…

    God said… whoever blessed Israel God will blessed them ..whoever cursed Israel God will cursed them…

    BECAUSE OF abraam faith in God…God blessed him…

    http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults2.php?passage1=Genesis12&book_id=1&version1=51&tp=50&c=12

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    The nation of Israel suffer alot throughout history… some because of thier unbelief and some for thier disobediant to God… but never the less.. Israel is God choosen people… the covenant God made with Abraham… and Jerusalem is God city..

    So… salvation is from God, but through the Jewish people and to all the world….

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    Israel is a small nation in the middle east..a nation smaller than Cambodia…I think…
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    If you really want to know when is the end times…keep your eyes on Israel…. many nation will want to destroy that little nation.but God protect Israel…

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    ok thats all..i know..

    LOL, you forgot the part about Abraham married his own sister, Sarah(the Issac’s line), with God’s blessing. Then Abraham was fooling around with the slave, impregnated her and got the Ismael’s line. Got the clues?

    god protect Israel? Was it god or the christian nations who pay allegiance to christian god, and try to fulfill the bible prophecy? And you are part of it. Guess who wrote the bibles?

    Well, let me give you a clue, if I were the Native Indian, and given the task to write the bible, I would write that the Native Indian are the chosen people, and if anyone dare to harm them, almighty god would curse and strike them with all his power.

    You see, this is why they split christianity into many denominations to entice more people with different taste to joint them, so that the prophecy can be fulfilled,—- to protect Israel…

    Think: Why any reasonable god would choose one group, race of people, nation to lead all other and would protect them unconditionally, regardless of what they did to his only beloved son…

    Think: why all of those who want to go to christian heaven can only go through Israeli and Jesus blood…

    Think: what if Judas did not betrayed Jesus and collaborated with the Roman to kill Jesus, would Christian be able to go heaven and be with the father…

    Who should christian thank?

    #329398
    Avatar of khemrin
    khemrin
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    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Heehee.. You want a reasonable ground ?
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    I believe in the Bible and the word of God and you don’t believe….

    there is no reasonable ground… I’m not gonna compromised my belief just to be on reasonable ground…
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    Your judging God and questioning his plans… Havent you realized by now that your only a weak human being and your earthly mind cant comprehend the mind of God…?

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    and finally to your last question…. when did sin enter the world? sin enter the world when adam and eve disobey God in the garden of eden..

    for the last time..khmerin..

    I am not talking to the cross, that is why it is my faint hope that that can be done: some reasonable ground upon which we can live together while we are here:Ref. Iran(Arab world)Vs Israel(christian world). It seems like whoever this god was, he left alots of problem unsolved in the Middle East when he took off for heaven.

    Part of my God’s giving wisdom(if any) is to be able to question(not judging) some of his responsibility as parent who created the first person(truth is given some benefit of a doubt here) in the garden of eden. I would as sure ask my parent if they left me with a “wicked” snake in the room when I was 6 month old(remember Adam and Eve were equal to infant at that time, since, for whatever the reason God did not yet give them the wisdom)… At the very least: Why..? What you were thinking..? Then were you out of your mind..?

    As long the preaching would go on, this is not the last time :)

    So, then
    1/ Who created this Garden of Eden?
    2/Who put the wicked snake in the otherwise perfect garden of Eden?
    3/What was his sincere purpose, plan, vision of having a snake there?

    I would ask that you just read the Genesis, nothing else and you would understand where I come from. Most converts, they have gone too far, and fail to cover the basis lies in the Genesis. I call the foundation of everything else that come after– that would end disastrously in the revelation(again, truth is given some benefit of a doubt here).

    #329408
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    Lol. Lok ta sinsisamouth is a buddhist. Therefore heavens is near. When making love with a woman. Lol

    [i]Originally posted by brach[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Diamond2[/i]
    If God created heaven. How many step of heavens should humans reached him?

    According to Sinsisamouth, heaven is not faraway![/quote]

    #329418
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    Akara143
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    Hey Legends..

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    Well I’m going by what the bible say about it..
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    So, Is this your own opinion or thinking or what book are you reading? where did you get your information that hell is your own making?
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    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

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    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    No, God didnt created you as a sinner… Your first great great great grandparents Adam and Even first sin against God, when they disobey God… and that sin fell upon us from generation to generation….passes down to you and me…

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    When God first created us..God gave us freedom to live and choose…God could of create us and program us like robots but God didnt…because God wants a relationships with us…its call free will…
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    everyone has consciences…bettween wright and wrong… its not like you dont know… If your somehow has a problems and cant tell from whats wright and wrong…then God knows…hell deal with it differently…

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    If you dont want anything to do with God and dont want God…then God will cast u off far away..seperated from God eternity..
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    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    Hmmm okay… But I thought GOD was ever so forgiving? I thought GOD would love us enough to know we are not perfect. God knows he created something imperfect? why? To toy with us and punish us for being sinner? Its not my fault that I am a sinner, its GOD’s fault for making me a sinner.
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    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    First of all…your love is nothing compare to God’s love…. human love is not perfect…God’s love is…. the bible stated…Perfect love cast out fear..
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    what If your wife dont love you and reject you and dont want anything to do with you and want to be with another man, …wouldnt you toss her out…?
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    and thats just your wife..you didnt even create her..

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    The people who doesnt love God and reject God and dont want anything to do with him..God will say ok as you wish… they will be be far awway seperated from God in darkness…cause God is light..

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    Hell was created for the devil and his fallen angels…. but those who reject and dont want anything with God will go there too.

    People have a choice ..to be with God or seperate from God…

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    I love my wife. Like God, I make her show her love for me by putting her through tests. If she fails those tests; I will throw her in a lake of fire to burn for eternity. Why? Because I love her!

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:33am by Akara143]

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:56am by Akara143][/quote]
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    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 07:24pm by Akara143][/quote]

    You will never be seperate from the creator no matter if you reject, believe, not believe. You are forever part of it, as long as it exist you also do. The creator has a path, a plan, you are part of that path and plan, but along that path and plan you are free to make your own experiences, be it good or bad. You will never be rejected, or cast to a place called hell, the only hell is in your own making.

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    #329427
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    Akara143
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    Wow…whats with all the hostility heehee ..you believe or you don’t ….accept or you don’t…. heehee… thats all folks…heehe

    [Message last modified 07-02-2010 01:59pm by Akara143]

    #329438
    Avatar of Diamond2
    Diamond2
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    God is no near to be found. I accepted my parent to be my God.

    #329449

    Legends
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    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    Hey Legends..

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    Well I’m going by what the bible say about it..
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    So, Is this your own opinion or thinking or what book are you reading? where did you get your information that hell is your own making?
    ———————-

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    No, God didnt created you as a sinner… Your first great great great grandparents Adam and Even first sin against God, when they disobey God… and that sin fell upon us from generation to generation….passes down to you and me…

    —–
    When God first created us..God gave us freedom to live and choose…God could of create us and program us like robots but God didnt…because God wants a relationships with us…its call free will…
    ————–

    everyone has consciences…bettween wright and wrong… its not like you dont know… If your somehow has a problems and cant tell from whats wright and wrong…then God knows…hell deal with it differently…

    ———————-

    If you dont want anything to do with God and dont want God…then God will cast u off far away..seperated from God eternity..
    ———-

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    Hmmm okay… But I thought GOD was ever so forgiving? I thought GOD would love us enough to know we are not perfect. God knows he created something imperfect? why? To toy with us and punish us for being sinner? Its not my fault that I am a sinner, its GOD’s fault for making me a sinner.
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Akara143[/i]
    First of all…your love is nothing compare to God’s love…. human love is not perfect…God’s love is…. the bible stated…Perfect love cast out fear..
    —–
    what If your wife dont love you and reject you and dont want anything to do with you and want to be with another man, …wouldnt you toss her out…?
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    and thats just your wife..you didnt even create her..

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    The people who doesnt love God and reject God and dont want anything to do with him..God will say ok as you wish… they will be be far awway seperated from God in darkness…cause God is light..

    ————————

    Hell was created for the devil and his fallen angels…. but those who reject and dont want anything with God will go there too.

    People have a choice ..to be with God or seperate from God…

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kaliboy[/i]
    I love my wife. Like God, I make her show her love for me by putting her through tests. If she fails those tests; I will throw her in a lake of fire to burn for eternity. Why? Because I love her!

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:33am by Akara143]

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 11:56am by Akara143][/quote]
    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 07-01-2010 07:24pm by Akara143][/quote]

    You will never be seperate from the creator no matter if you reject, believe, not believe. You are forever part of it, as long as it exist you also do. The creator has a path, a plan, you are part of that path and plan, but along that path and plan you are free to make your own experiences, be it good or bad. You will never be rejected, or cast to a place called hell, the only hell is in your own making.

    [/quote]
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    It’s not from any book, it’s from my own experience, the experiences has more truth then any bible, or book that I have read. I have experienced death, and i know there is no death, there is no hell, or heaven. You only wake up to what you really are.

    [Message last modified 07-02-2010 04:19pm by Legends]

    #329459
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    Akara143
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    Hey, Khmerin..yeah I got the clues, that you got your facts all wrong heehee….

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    Show me where in the bible that state Sarah was Abraham sister? and show me where in the bible stated abram(Abraham) married his own sister Sarah? you got it all wrong bro..
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    The only time Abraham mention sarah as a sister was when Abraham and his wife Sarah and all his family moved to Eygpt where they live as a foreigner…. Now Because Abraham was scared he might get kill…Because his wife sarah was a beautiful woman… Abraham was afraid the Eygptian might kill him and take his wife… So abraham told sarah to say that she was his sister… so that they wont kill him because they found interest in her.. .. here read it all about it..in Genesis chapter 12 verse 10….down the middle of the page.. abraham and sarah in eygpt…

    http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults2.php?passage1=Genesis12&book_id=1&version1=51&tp=50&c=12

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    And you said that Abram (Abraham) was fooling around with the slave girl?

    Well let me tell you how it happened… listen up…

    Ok… At that time Abraham and his wife sarah was at an old age and both of them had no children…
    One day the Lord God spoke to Abraham in a vision, saying that the Lord will bless him with great reward…. but Abraham said, whats goods are all your blessing when I have no son… but the Lord said
    to Abraham, you will have a son (with his wife sarah) who will be your heir…..

    But Sarah and Abraham couldnt wait on the Lord promised and they took matter into thier own hands…

    Now sarah had an Eygptian servant girl name Hagar ok…. one day sarah said to Abraham, since I can not have any children, why don’t you go sleep with my servant girl, perhaps I can have children through her….so Abraham agreed with sarah proposal…so sarah took her Eygptian servant girl Hagar and gave her to Abraham as a wife….so Abraham sleep with Hagar and she later became pregnant and have a son name Ishmael….

    and later Sarah became pregnant…. because The Lord promised Abraham that he and his Sarah will have a son who will be his heir…..so Sarah gave birth to a son and name him Isaac…..

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    Now because of what sarah and abraham did and couldnt wait on the lord promised..they took things into thier own hands have created a huge problem…

    Abraham is the father of Ishmael and Isaac….

    we believe that Ishmael is the father of many arab nation in the middle east like syria, Jordan, saudi arabia, palestine.. ..


    Isaan is the father of Jacob , who is Israel..

    thier fighting against each other over there…

    A long time ago when I was in the hospital, there was a lady nurse, she was an arab woman from the middle east…she like sadam hussien, she think sadam hussien was a good man…this was during the gulf war… I said to her, your grandfather Ishmael was Abraham son and Isaac was his brother…you guys are related.. and she said yes… I said why u guys fighting each others.. Jews and arab…

    ..I asked questions..I was kinda scared lol..

    [i]Originally posted by khemrin[/i]

    LOL, you forgot the part about Abraham married his own sister, Sarah(the Issac’s line), with God’s blessing. Then Abraham was fooling around with the slave, impregnated her and got the Ismael’s line. Got the clues?

    god protect Israel? Was it god or the christian nations who pay allegiance to christian god, and try to fulfill the bible prophecy? And you are part of it. Guess who wrote the bibles?

    Well, let me give you a clue, if I were the Native Indian, and given the task to write the bible, I would write that the Native Indian are the chosen people, and if anyone dare to harm them, almighty god would curse and strike them with all his power.

    You see, this is why they split christianity into many denominations to entice more people with different taste to joint them, so that the prophecy can be fulfilled,—- to protect Israel…

    Think: Why any reasonable god would choose one group, race of people, nation to lead all other and would protect them unconditionally, regardless of what they did to his only beloved son…

    Think: why all of those who want to go to christian heaven can only go through Israeli and Jesus blood…

    Think: what if Judas did not betrayed Jesus and collaborated with the Roman to kill Jesus, would Christian be able to go heaven and be with the father…

    Who should christian thank?

    [Message last modified 07-02-2010 04:32pm by Akara143]

    #329467
    Avatar of Akara143
    Akara143
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    Well Lengend,

    you have your own experience and belief, and thats your right…. Us Christians has are own experience and belief……

    I don’t know what else to say.. but happy trail…:)

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    [i]Originally posted by Legends[/i]

    It’s not from any book, it’s from my own experience, the experiences has more truth then any bible, or book that I have read. I have experienced death, and i know there is no death, there is no hell, or heaven. You only wake up to what you really are.

    [Message last modified 07-02-2010 04:19pm by Legends]

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