June 1, 2007 at 3:56 pm #261431
I’ve read a lot of comments on how college isn’t for everyone. When I do read those comments, I ask myself ‘why not?’. If college is not for everyone, then who is it for? Who belongs in college, and who doesn’t?
In my opinion, college is for everyone because anyone can benefit from more education. But what’s your opinion on it?
edit to prevent confusion that I’ve noticed. The only edited words are in italics:
Note that college means ‘higher’ education, not only 4-yr colleges or university, but also trade schools aka career colleges, community colleges, basically anything above high school/k-12.
[Message last modified 06-02-2007 11:48am by agent0o5]June 1, 2007 at 4:03 pm #261217
Forgot to say:
There was a saying someone told me before that “You can’t teach a Harvard student anything new because they know everything already.”
Yet, there are still Harvard students, Yale students, MIT students, etc. These are the people I would assume do not need college or ‘belong’ there, but they still have go to college. Then who are these people everyone keeps talking about that do not belong in college?June 1, 2007 at 4:15 pm #261232
There are exceptions like for example, Bill Gates. However, that statement is false….sure these schools have the highest yield rates and attract the finest students, but they don’t know everything. The truth of the matter is that that’s the ‘perception’….but not necessarily a fact, but a myth.
In regards to your question…..college isn’t for everyone. But college def. opens more doors for those who are willing to give it a chance….there’s nothing one can lose but one only has more to gain and not to mention have more doors and windows of opportunity open for you. Some people find their passion elsewhere that doesnt require a college degree, etc. For example….movie stars, singers, athletes….etc. There are exceptions but education is something that you can always fall back on no matter what age you are. It’s something that is priceless and that will never betray you in the long run.
[i]Originally posted by agent0o5[/i]
Forgot to say:
There was a saying someone told me before that “You can’t teach a Harvard student anything new because they [i]know[/i] everything already.”
Yet, there are [i]still[/i] Harvard students, Yale students, MIT students, etc. These are the people I would assume do not need college or ‘belong’ there, but they still have go to college. Then who are these people everyone keeps talking about that do not belong in college?June 1, 2007 at 4:48 pm #261243
^Yeah, true about exceptions like Bill Gates, but then again there are not many Bill Gates out there. Bill Gates was also a Harvard drop out. When he started Microsoft, he did hire college grads from the best schools. Besides that, Bill Gates got lucky because he stole an idea from his friend who stole an idea from another group of people. You can’t always be that lucky and his business practice is borderline to monopolistic. I think Bill Gates success is more of luck than anything else, or/and possibly thanks to his bad or ‘good’ business practices talent that everyone grew to love or hate, depending on how you look at it.
I agree with you that my statement on those students in good schools isn’t true, but it’s just to make a point that unless you know everything, you belong in college; hence, Harvard, Yale, MIT students don’t know everything, which is why they are in college as well.
Btw, just because a field does not require a degree to get in does not mean the person pursuing the field doesn’t belong in college. Even athletes go to college to get better at their sport or get an education because they know they can’t be an athlete for long or maybe just to explore other fields and learn something.
edit add: Point of this post is saying is that what is the chance of you being the next Bill Gates or Steve Jobs without a good education? These people are 2 in 9 billions, and the probability of success like them with or without a good education is lower than getting struck by lightning 3 or 4 times or winning the lottery. Although college does not guarantee success, it does guarantee you a bit of an upper hand in becoming a successful person. If not monetary gain, at least you’ve gained some knowledge if you were serious about it.
[Message last modified 06-01-2007 05:24pm by agent0o5]June 1, 2007 at 6:13 pm #261255
^Agent, I totally understand your views and where you’re coming from. You have a very interesting perspective….but I guess what I was trying to imply is that college is a choice and cannot be enforced upon anyone. Whatever works best for the individual…for they know themselves better than anyone. The opportunity is out there, but for those who chose not to take advantage of it…I’m sure they have reasons of their own that we might know of or circumstances that might have hinder them from completing their degree.
You know what’s ironic, Bill Gates is actually speaking at this year’s Harvard Commencement. He’s the principal speaker too. He’s still considered a Harvard Alum eventhough he didn’t complete his degree. lol.June 1, 2007 at 8:11 pm #261268
College can be for everybody, but I think you’re seeing it the wrong way. If somebody can get certified, learn what they need to learn, and be on their way, then that’s for them. They don’t see college is for them becuz they would be sitting around taking dumb classes that they won’t remember. My dad went to US college for a while, but he dropped out cuz it was pretty much useless for him. Right now, he get job offers left and right, he gets to go to school for free, and he makes a lot of money.June 1, 2007 at 10:11 pm #261280
[i]Originally posted by I3ig_Machine[/i]
College can be for everybody, but I think you’re seeing it the wrong way. If somebody can get certified, learn what they need to learn, and be on their way, then that’s for them.
When I’m speaking of college, I mean ‘higher education’ in general, could be community college, trade schools, 4-yr, workshops, etc.June 1, 2007 at 10:19 pm #261292
To me, I think when ppl talk about college, they are talking about a bachelor’s degree. When they say “college isn’t for everyone”, they are talking about ppl such as those that got certified, but never graduated from a 4 yr college. It’s common that ppl who got certified say “I never went to college”.
[i]Originally posted by agent0o5[/i]
When I’m speaking of college, I mean ‘higher education’ in general, could be community college, trade schools, 4-yr, workshops, etc.June 1, 2007 at 11:05 pm #261304
I only assume they’re talking about 4-yr college when I hear “4-yr college”, “university,” or specific 4-yr college names. Otherwise, college is any ‘higher’ educational institutions. Trade school and community colleges are colleges. Usually a 4-yr college is referred as a “university”.
note: ‘higher’ as in higher than high school lvl or K-12.
[Message last modified 06-01-2007 11:14pm by agent0o5]June 1, 2007 at 11:26 pm #261314
[i]Originally posted by majesticgyrl[/i]
You know what’s ironic, Bill Gates is actually speaking at this year’s Harvard Commencement. He’s the principal speaker too. He’s still considered a Harvard Alum eventhough he didn’t complete his degree. lol.
That’s just sad. Money talks I guess. That’s not so bad as Harvard letting Bush graduate from there, not to mention letting him in Harvard. GWB is not Harvard material. lol.