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  • #138786
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    i was watching a khmer documentary on tvk the other night and they were talking about khmer martial arts. anyways, wat caught my interest was the kun tombong (staff) style. after learning different styles of the staff, i was amazed at their technique. the introduction was somewhat boring thinking anyone can do that, but as it got up to the instructors, the demonstration of the techniques and style was intense and clever. never have i seen anyone able execute strikes with a staff at close range (less than 1 feet away) that was strong and effective. anyways just want to see if anyone out there know any other different khmer martial arts. my mom recalled that she saw one guy on a staff can take out six guys.

    we must know that some of the knowledge was lost after the KR era but i hope one day to learn more about khmer martial arts. there aren’t that many instructors left, lets hope this art form isn’t forgotten. the oldest instructor there was over 80 years old. anyone know of any sites or related material please post it here.

    #138804
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    MisterMeow
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    Interesting. Don’t forget sword fighting. we have that too.

    #138819
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    khaimarun
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    I would be interested also to know more about the subject.

    #138833
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    AUSSIE-NO1
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    [i]Originally posted by sidmann[/i]
    i was watching a khmer documentary on tvk the other night and they were talking about khmer martial arts. anyways, wat caught my interest was the kun tombong (staff) style. after learning different styles of the staff, i was amazed at their technique. the introduction was somewhat boring thinking anyone can do that, but as it got up to the instructors, the demonstration of the techniques and style was intense and clever. never have i seen anyone able execute strikes with a staff at close range (less than 1 feet away) that was strong and effective. anyways just want to see if anyone out there know any other different khmer martial arts. my mom recalled that she saw one guy on a staff can take out six guys.

    we must know that some of the knowledge was lost after the KR era but i hope one day to learn more about khmer martial arts. there aren’t that many instructors left, lets hope this art form isn’t forgotten. the oldest instructor there was over 80 years old. anyone know of any sites or related material please post it here.

    i got tvk. how come i didn’t see it? when was it?

    #138851
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    I have not found anything about kun tambang yet but I found an interesting article about khmer bandal serei.
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    well i’m going to start off like this. Muay Thai is actually a Cambodian martial art, known as badai serei, and also know as Muay khmer. Muay Thai only came out when the khmers were going through war for 30 years. Lives were more important than a martial art.
    Muay means number 1 in khmer. Don’t be fooled otherwise, cause Muay in Thai has no meaning, it was given meaning cause of the American media wanted to know what it meant. If you were to win a fight what would be the best way to taunt the loser. Yelling at the loser and saying i’m number 1, and so this is were Muay Thai came from, meaning thai number 1.

    In the 6th century BC. a country was forming and was known as Kampuja, this would be the begining of the KHMER EMPIRE.
    The khmers were very fierce, smart and strong people. They had many different types of martial arts, and one of the strongest was badai serei, meaning freestyle fighting in khmer.
    The main purpose of badai serei was to kill you’re enemy quick, the muay thai you people see is just the first phase of training. There are 5 phase in badai serei, the last 2 are weapons. The elbows, knees, and head was a main weapon, and body conditioning. These are the basic that you people train in.
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    Read more, go to the link below

    http://www.martialartsplanet.com/showthread/t-298.html

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    Another article
    Cambodian fighters are now sparring against each other and visitors from other countries, including Thailand – and they’re winning.

    Um Yurann, deputy director of the Cambodian Boxing Federation, is at the forefront of the cultural battle and points to bas-reliefs on the ancient walls of the ninth to 12th century Angkor temples as proof that Cambodians have been practising the sport for centuries.

    “After decades of war, kickboxing was forgotten and the athletes were weak. Now we are trying our best to restore our reputation,” he said.

    “But we are still poor and most of our boxers are in poor living conditions. They do not have enough energy to practise.”

    But they do practise, at some 70 boxing clubs around the country and with determination to become world-class athletes some day.

    “We often have foreign kickboxers from Japan, France, Thailand, Australia, Spain, Sweden, Canada and other countries who come to compete with our boxers,” Um Yurann said. “Sometimes we lose, sometimes we win. This is normal.”

    It is clear on any given weekend that Cambodians are embracing the sport wholeheartedly. Television stations have begun staging weekly matches that spectators can watch at the studios in Phnom Penh or live on TV.

    “Kick! Kick! Punch! Use your elbow! Use your knee,” audience members shout as two boxers face off before a standing-room-only crowd.
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    Read more, click here

    http://pub228.ezboard.com/ftaekwondo67109frm13.showMessage?topicID=10.topic

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    Sorry guys, another article about Khmer martial art
    Cambodia’s national boxing team is boycotting a regional tournament in Bangkok next month, (Tuesday, October 12 1999). protesting Monday that the sport known around the world as Thai kickboxing is, in fact, Cambodia. And the boycott’s supporters say their evidence in set in stone specifically, the carvings at the ancient temples of Angkor. Prum Bun Yi, director of the Cambodian Olympic Committee, said the national team will not attend the King’s Cup tournament in Bangkok unless organizers

    The link to read more,

    http://www.gocambodia.com/culture/team_boycott.asp

    [Message last modified 09-08-2003 05:52pm by csophal]

    #138866
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    csophal
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    See, what they have written about Muay Thai.
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    Muay Thai

    #138880
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    clstl3khmdncer
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    khmer martial arts are very intresting too bad it isn’t publicized much
    :(. khmers should try and bring back wrestling too like in the angkor days.

    #138895
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    simoneek
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    Thanks sidmann and csophal for the Khmer Martial Arts. This is something new I’ve learned.

    The Khmers were busy fighting for their survivor, the Thais took everything from Khmers and put on to their name, now Khmers’re coming back, will take back what belong to Khmers from the Thais.

    #138910
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    csophal
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    Here is an article commenting on Khmer Bandal Serei in Phnom Penh. I missed this part very much I usually watched the programme at the weekend. Bandal Serei is carried out every weekend in Cambodia.

    This article is from Koshantepheap Daily

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    Monday, September 08, 2003

    TV5 Wrap: Vichet, Kunthor and Saroeurn KOed Their Opponents in Round 4
    San Vichet from Battambang’s Sacred Base pounded Long Oscar from Police Friendly club to unconsciousness in round four as Try Kunthor knocked out Hem Rotha, Sing Saroeurn floored Nuon Phireak and Chey Kosal won his fight again Pao Phally Sunday September 7, at TV5 Arena.

    A big knee-kick from Vichet has successfully stopped Oscar in round four of the five-round fight after went through the interesting clash from the early rounds. Oscar opened the bout with his overwhelming control of round one and two as Vichet has only tried to defend and kept him at the long range. Vichet seemed to be rallied in the middle of round three with jabs and kicks. When the fourth came, Vichet changed his strategy with stick-and-move style and released more knee-kicks at the close range and hold. His attempt was resulted in success with a tremendous blow of his knee-kick late in round four.

    The second bout saw another knockout in the same round and the same fashion as Try Kunthor from RCAF club floored Hem Rotha from Eagle club with his knee-kicks Sunday. Kunthor dominated the fight since the beginning with his storming foot speeds. Kunthor changed his tactics of fighting in round four to get closer as his opponent became weaker. Knee-kicks were replaced and some helps from elbow-blows, Kunthor used his right knee to put Rotha to the floor.

    The best knee-kick was successful again. Sing Saroeurn from PM club stopped Nuon Phireak from RCAF by striking his excellent knee-kick in the round four. Phireak was the favorite before the fight start. Phireak impressed the crowds in round one and two causing some problems to Saroeurn with his rainy punches and hooks dominating the fights. But His opponent could still be on his feet and he rallied in round three with his serious punches as Phireak’s strength was dwindling. Saroeurn clearly controlled round four with countless of vicious punches and knee-strikes and after three consecutive strikes Phireak was falling on his knees before rolling on the floor due to immeasurable pain. The referee gave Saroeurn the victory.

    Kosal is best at his punches and elbow-strikes and they worked well Sunday though he suffered a small cut under his right eye due to the right elbow-blow from Pao Phally. Kosal opened his fight with many brilliant punches. He caused a problem for Phally in the middle of the round and the referee counted eight. Kosal intensified the clash in round two and after another two minutes two great punches astounded Phally again and again the referee counted tree. When the fight continued, Phally was not qualified to resume the fight since more punches, hooks, and jabs from Kosal were to much for him. And the referee stopped the challenge and announced Kosal a winner.

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    Here is the link for the site in case you want to follow up later.

    http://www.kohsantepheapdaily.com.kh/

    Bye for now.

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    #138923
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    sidmann
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    thanks csophal for all the articles, rite now im trying to get the demo into mpeg and post it up for ppl to see.

    i don’t exactly remember the time it was on TVK, i just saw abit of it then recorded the rest and watched it later.

    #138936
    Avatar of kNiGhTRiDeR
    kNiGhTRiDeR
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    i had no clue that we have a unique martial arts style of our own… i wish there were teachers here in the U.S. who teaches our art. i just signed up for jowga kungfu today and so far i find it very interesting. though if i knew there was a khmer art, i would probably have trained in that so that we can keep our culture alive.

    #138952
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    khaimarun
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    ^ good spirit. as soon i will be able to, i’ll look forward a place to get back into martial sports also. Learning Bandal Serei would be perfect.

    #138965
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    khaimarun
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    [i]Originally posted by sidmann[/i]
    (…)rite now im trying to get the demo into mpeg and post it up for ppl to see.(…)

    I am waiting to see that sidmann, if you need a place to upload it, just page me. I’d host it.

    #138979
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    Thursday, September 18,

    Weekend Fight: Sarath v Bunthy, Kosal v Vandy

    #138992
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    csophal
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    Lor Samnang to Fight Gold Medal Boxer in October

    From Left: Kibunde JESUS and Lor Samnang

    Cambodian kick-boxer Lor Samnang from PPMP decided to transform himself from Kick-boxing division into boxing form this week and will be ready to take on Congolese Gold Medal and African Silver Medal boxer Kibunde JESUS at TV5 Arena Sunday October 25.

    According to Seng Kadeka, Organizer of TV5 Arena, African Silver medallist, Kibunde JESUS, who recorded 64 fights with 55 wins, nine loses and won 30 from the distance, will fight Lor Samnang at his 57kg.

    The former kick-boxer, Lor Samnang, is recorded the best in the ring of kickboxing and is not so bad compared to the Congolese. He changed to this division because his career looks set to be over with no opponents to fight on.

    This is tipped to be another biggest event and unprecedented fight in the modern Cambodia’s boxing history. Cambodia hosted an International Kick-boxing in 2002 when number one Cambodian kick-boxer Eh Phuthong was knocked out by Sudanese kick-boxer Faisan Shakaria in round four at TV5 Arena.

    “He will build a better future with this new division”, said Kadeka, referring to Samnang’s current career. He emphasized that, if we look at his brainpower, speed and great punches, Samnang would have to resist the medallist in the scheduled six-round fight.

    Currently, Samnang is having a hard and careful training and absolutely convince that he will win if his challenger is as tall as him.

    Cambodian Amateur Boxing Confederation (CABC) claims that Samnang will win the fight.

    http://www.kohsantepheapdaily.com.kh/Art_culture/box22_09.htm

    #139007
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    Oth Phuthong Won the Weekend Fight to Retains TV5 Title

    TV5 Titleholder, Oth Phuthong successfully knocked out his contender, Phin Sophal for the second time Sunday in a rematch to defend the title at TV5 Arena in Phnom Penh.

    A great elbow-blow followed by another left knee-kick late in round two were enough to end Sophal

    #139022
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    One time my nephew and I were re-enacting a kun tombong move we saw and he started beating the crap out of me because I wasn’t ready and he nearly took off my right knee cap. Damn bastard!;)

    #139036
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    kun sil,,,,kum keatha,,,tranform ,,vannish,,vetamoun,,, komkrerk merk rumjuuy panday,,,,just to summon a couple of bali word,,, u can kill ur enermy ,,without knowing wat hit him…too bad ,,,most of adult said they lost almost all of that,,,,but still i don’t believe them ,,someday,,this martial art will show up agian,,we just need more research. hope to bring back the khmer empire 2,,,let it rise to the top,. khmer rule

    [Message last modified 10-12-2003 05:18pm by KmERBoy]

    #139052
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    Posted by Thaikicker on 04-18-2002 07:18 AM:

    In the 6th century BC. a country was forming and was known as Kampuja, this would be the begining of the KHMER EMPIRE.

    The khmers were very fierce, smart and strong people. They had many different types of martial arts, and one of the strongest was badai serei, meaning freestyle fighting in khmer.

    The main purpose of badai serei was to kill you’re enemy quick, the muay thai you people see is just the first phase of training. There are 5 phase in badai serei, the last 2 are weapons. The elbows, knees, and head was a main weapon, and body conditioning. These are the basic that you people train in.

    When phase 1 is mastered you move into phase 2. This consist of grappling and bone breaking techinques added with phase 1. e.g When you have a person in the forearm lock around his head. It was meant to hold the person to knee and control. But adding phase 2, you are trained to twist his neck and snap it. another example is when you are kneeing the person you later thrust you’re foot aiming for the knee cap, you’re purpose is to break it, so he wouldn’t be able to stand or walk.

    Phase 3, this is the fuel that makes the khmers deadly. It’s a psychological training. I only now bits of this, cause the gru (teachers in khmer, and there’s only a few left in the world, I know of only 5, becuase of the khmer rouge regein) refuse to mention the secret. But the main purpose is to controll you’re rage and unleash it at the enemy.
    Phase 4 and 5 are weapons related, and it’s a whole new matrial art in its self. training with swords, stick fighting, bows, and spears.
    This is basicly how they achieved to become one of teh most feared race and becoming the KHMER EMPIRE in the 10th-14th century, even the chinese were scared. The KHMER EMPIRE spread out to the islands which is known as Indonesia, Burma, and the Philippines, they all have some form of khmer blood in them. Just look at there culture and fighting styles, it has changed because of island isolation but there are things that are still there that are khmer.

    The chinese were smart, they used the art of war against them. They sent spies to KHMER EMPIRE, later through the years more chinese moved in and eventually the country seperated and was called Siam (now known as Thailand). The khmer culture can still be seen, the foods, the written language, art, etc. It’s all from the khmer people. Later through the centuries, Siam broke up and became Laos. That’s why they speak in the same tongue.

    Muay Thai is Khmer and the proof is in the temples of Cambodia all carved in stone. the head band has spells (Yantra) written in khmer, the history is also written in the chinese sand scripts claiming that the khmes used fierce fighting styles. All the tatoos and the music is all khmer.
    Every thing you see in Thailand is actually khmer related, the clothing, dancing, foods etc. so when you see something that’s thai, it’s actually khmer.

    I’m Thai and have little khmer blood in me, but I know where I came from. Even my own people have threatened me for my life and my families, cause they refuse to give the khmers the credit. My wife is khmer and they feel I have sold out in a sense.

    You got to give credit where credit is due. I’ll just leave it at that for you to think

    #139066
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    Phouthong brothers, Oth and Eh, registered points decisions over Thai-trained Italian kickboxer, Suki and Sudanese Faitsal Zakkaria to crown the International Kickboxing Titles respectively Friday last week.

    Cambodian Oth Phouthong, 22, narrowly won his five-round fight over Suki from Italy to claim the title. After five charged rounds, Muoy Thai champion Suki was ready to raise his hand as a signal of the winner of the encounter but the announcer said the ringside judges offered the Cambodian TV5 champion the winner of the sensational clash. As the referee lifted Oth Phouthong up as a signal of victory, more than 50,000 crowds roared Lambert stadium that evening.

    Suki released many of his thunderous punches over Oth since the beginning and shook the Cambodian several times in the first two rounds. But Oth could stand on his feet and fought back vigorously. Clutches

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