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  • #316284
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    Another aspect of God’s Bonn is simply called miracle. A miracle is what is not naturally human.

    How does God get the supernatural/ miracle power? Would there be anything I can learn and try for fun?

    I never say no to good and fun tries.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    No one I have met seems to be able to beat God. Borameys said he is the top One while human seems not having anything better.

    Being on top of the chain, his Bonn seems to be a little different than anybody else. His Bonn may be not just a gift or collected merits.

    If Bonn is a gift, who gave it to him?

    If Bonn is collected merits, when did he start to collect them? Compared to Buddha who may have had collected his enlightenment merits for eons of lives, how many lives did God do that to enable Him the magical power to create all lives and things on earth, heavens and hells?

    His supreme Bonn seems to involve Power. We are talking about power to create and destroy everything including the world.

    Talking about His power to destroy, I keep thinking of the Kaliyuga in which our era is in. In this era, it was said that people get wildly smarter, such as students know more than teachers (true). The wildly smart and new intelligence will be for nothing as at the end of this Kaliyuga era, as everything will be destroyed and gone. Global warming and everything else seems to move along the prediction.

    It was said that Bonns may last beyond that point. Our knowledge, degrees, books or inventions will not! With this perspective, I am looking forward to ask my God more questions about his Bonn and general Bonn the next time he’ll allow me another appointment.

    One most important question would be what do I need to do to be a real Neak Mean Bonn so that my soul could survive well to the next new yuga and beyond :)

    [Message last modified 10-08-2009 12:18am by veayoo]

    #316294
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    The opposite of Bonn is Barb.

    Barb deeds are against good dharma and credit doers of Hells awards.

    Bonn deeds are to take people to heavens and other good places.

    #316304
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    By Buddhism teaching, the Barb could come in three ways: Kaykarm, Monokarm and Vacheyakarm

    Kaykarm = one’s action. You do something wrong, you go in hells, prison, etc.

    Monokarm = one’s thought. You think wrong that good things are bad, you deserve the hells and prison, etc also. In human arena, bad thought may not be punishable by laws as proofs are hard to come with. Well, Yama/ the King of death has his own recording systems of doing, thinking or saying what and when. His Boramey recording system must be way more advanced than what human can do now.

    Vacheyakarm = one’s speech. You say something bad about good things, your Barb will take you to hells or prison. For this purpose, it is smart to avoid talking down or bad about others’ belief or so. If it’ll turn out that you are or will be wrong, you accumalate the negative Bonns which would take you down. Buddhists and Hinduists usually just mind their own business and avoid talking or writing bad things about others’ belief or religion.

    Psychologically speaking, people tend to act what they think or talk. One who repeatingly think or say to kill someone for instance, tend to act that way in urgency or reactive moment.

    Try not to write bad about others’ belief, God or gods. Mind your own belief, guys!!!

    If you do not collect good merits, why let Barb comes to you?

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    The opposite of Bonn is Barb.

    Barb deeds are against good dharma and credit doers of Hells awards.

    Bonn deeds are to take people to heavens and other good places.

    #316313
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    veayoo
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    An English saying I know goes like:

    If you do not have anything nice to say, just don’t say anything at all.

    In another word, better be a Muni, the silent one.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    By Buddhism teaching, the Barb could come in three ways: Kaykarm, Monokarm and Vacheyakarm

    Kaykarm = one’s action. You do something wrong, you go in hells, prison, etc.

    Monokarm = one’s thought. You think wrong that good things are bad, you deserve the hells and prison, etc also. In human arena, bad thought may not be punishable by laws as proofs are hard to come with. Well, Yama/ the King of death has his own recording systems of doing, thinking or saying what and when. His Boramey recording system must be way more advanced than what human can do now.

    Vacheyakarm = one’s speech. You say something bad about good things, your Barb will take you to hells or prison. For this purpose, it is smart to avoid talking down or bad about others’ belief or so. If it’ll turn out that you are or will be wrong, you accumalate the negative Bonns which would take you down. Buddhists and Hinduists usually just mind their own business and avoid talking or writing bad things about others’ belief or religion.

    Psychologically speaking, people tend to act what they think or talk. One who repeatingly think or say to kill someone for instance, tend to act that way in urgency or reactive moment.

    Try not to write bad about others’ belief, God or gods. Mind your own belief, guys!!!

    If you do not collect good merits, why let Barb comes to you?

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    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    The opposite of Bonn is Barb.

    Barb deeds are against good dharma and credit doers of Hells awards.

    Bonn deeds are to take people to heavens and other good places.

    [/quote]

    #316323
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    I made a few comments on a KC thread titled: Preah Khan Reach and The Genealogy of Khmer Kings. It is an interesting thread that I like to comment further as related to the concept of Bonn in Neak Mean Bonn.
    I am making a comment here to facilitate further review for myself and also to facilitate attention from my Boramey readers.

    Sometimes ago, one of my Divine Fathers referred to the word Bonn talking about the old king Norodom Sihanouk. He said the old king got Bonn showered on him. That has been why, as I understand, the old king has been quite successful for about 70 years so far (he is around 87 years old.). He has been very sick and had his son, present King Sihamoni takes care of the throne. After the old king death, the Bonn will pass onto a new individual.

    This kind of Bonn apparently is not a personal merit that an individual can take with after leaving his or her body. This is not really an individual personal merits. It is more like a set of assignable magical power.

    #316333
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    News through KC, the below article. makes me very sad to see that my beloved King Sihanouk getting very sick.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20091008-229040/Cambodian-ex-king-says-he-wants-to-die-soon

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    Cambodian ex-king says he wants to die soon

    Agence France-Presse
    First Posted 17:47:00 10/08/2009

    PHNOM PENH—Cambodia’s elderly former king Norodom Sihanouk said he has lived too long and wishes to die as soon as possible, according to a personal handwritten note on his website Thursday.

    In a royal message, Sihanouk said his father, Suramarit, died at the age of 64, and his great-grandfather, Sisowath, died at the age of 83.

    “But for me, who sincerely wants to die as near in the future as possible, I have lived too long,” wrote the former king, who will turn 87 at the end of this month.

    The ex-monarch, who has been in Beijing since last month for routine medical treatment, went on to say in his message, dated October 2, that the “lengthy longevity bears on me like an unbearable weight.”

    Sihanouk went on to thank compatriots who have wished that he lives to be over 100 years old, but asked them to refrain from wishing him a long life.

    “What I want is to die as soon as possible, without having to infringe on the teachings of the (esteemed) Buddha who forbade suicide,” he wrote.

    Sihanouk has suffered from a number of ailments, including cancer, diabetes and hypertension.

    One of Asia’s longest-serving monarchs, he abruptly quit the throne in October 2004 in favor of his son, Sihamoni, citing old age and health problems.

    Despite abdicating, Sihanouk remains a prominent figure in Cambodia and often uses messages on his website to comment on matters of state.

    *****

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I made a few comments on a KC thread titled: Preah Khan Reach and The Genealogy of Khmer Kings. It is an interesting thread that I like to comment further as related to the concept of Bonn in Neak Mean Bonn.
    I am making a comment here to facilitate further review for myself and also to facilitate attention from my Boramey readers.

    Sometimes ago, one of my Divine Fathers referred to the word Bonn talking about the old king Norodom Sihanouk. He said the old king got Bonn showered on him. That has been why, as I understand, the old king has been quite successful for about 70 years so far (he is around 87 years old.). He has been very sick and had his son, present King Sihamoni takes care of the throne. After the old king death, the Bonn will pass onto a new individual.

    This kind of Bonn apparently is not a personal merit that an individual can take with after leaving his or her body. This is not really an individual personal merits. It is more like a set of assignable magical power.

    #316343
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    veayoo
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    I finally got a chance to read through the Preah Khan Reach article. It shows hard work to get the writing together. The author based the writing on what he could find.

    My finding so far has nothing to do specifically with a Sword. My Boramey talked about gold and diamond crown and seat specifically and referred to everything else as auxiliaries.

    The article brought up fights for power in Cambodia history. This part has nothing new to me. I started to read similar writing since I was before 10 years old. What has been left in my mind is my sense of hate in wars and fights. There were so many internal fights and wars between kings, princes and peasants for power control. There were also so many wars between neighboring countries.

    Each fight or war costs so many lives. Following the fights and wars, Cambodia as a country kept shrinking and became more instable, thus prone to more fights and wars. As we all know well, any fight or war could kill us, our relatives, friends and neighbors. All lives can be killed. Fights, wars and all instability are main cause of poverty. Fights and wars destroy lives and things, and are main obstacle to any positive economic and social development.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I made a few comments on a KC thread titled: Preah Khan Reach and The Genealogy of Khmer Kings. It is an interesting thread that I like to comment further as related to the concept of Bonn in Neak Mean Bonn.
    I am making a comment here to facilitate further review for myself and also to facilitate attention from my Boramey readers.

    Sometimes ago, one of my Divine Fathers referred to the word Bonn talking about the old king Norodom Sihanouk. He said the old king got Bonn showered on him. That has been why, as I understand, the old king has been quite successful for about 70 years so far (he is around 87 years old.). He has been very sick and had his son, present King Sihamoni takes care of the throne. After the old king death, the Bonn will pass onto a new individual.

    This kind of Bonn apparently is not a personal merit that an individual can take with after leaving his or her body. This is not really an individual personal merits. It is more like a set of assignable magical power.

    #316353
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    I do not have much nice thing to say about barbaric royal families. I have been mad with them for decades. I have to say what has been in my chest!

    Along with my hate feeling toward internal fights and wars, I also hated the barbaric royal families who were so stupid fighting for the throne and the Sword. Their barbaric characters were main factors for the country decline since after Jayavarman VII.

    Their uncivilized behavior went to stupid loss of the Mohanokor territory to Thailand and Vietnam. Stupid kings and royal families signed Kampuchea Krom to Vietnam and have made a hell of torture and repression on Cambodians who live in the Kampuchea Krom area.

    The stupid royal families have built a losing strategy for Cambodia. The losing strategy consists actually of be happy to stay alive, such as happy to be on a small island. The small island would be washed out almost any time by a high wave of war or a tsunami of regional war.

    The legacy left has no ability to offense in any mean. In chess, boxing or even foot ball, you know what kind of vulnerability one is in without offense ability. A small country with chaotic leaders, the chaotic royal families, will continue to be a subject of instability, fights and wars. The chaotic way to lead a country needs to be put aside.

    This has been the vision of my Neak mean Bonn as well as mine.

    #316361
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    For a clarification, my critics on Cambodia royal families in history is of limited scope. Not all royal families were bad. There were a few good among all the apples in a basket.

    The ones who have contributed to the decline of Cambodia, the ones who generated fights and wars (thus having lives killed, having caused so much misery and hardship) are the ones to be condemned for treason to the country and people.

    After all, everybody including kings and royal families need to be responsible for his, or or their acts and Kayakarm!

    #316372
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    veayoo
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    A Preah Khan Reach may have a significant historic or sentimental value to some people. Until I’ll find out otherwise, it would not be of primordial importance. For a human like me, it is more of a sign of authoritative killing power for kings who have been providing poor leadership to Cambodia for the last several centuries.

    If it were to be of importance in the divine aspect, the divine power could be encapsulated into anything else such in another kind of Mandela.

    As my Neak Mean Bonn commented a few years ago, the country needs to change its course in term of leadership. The last several centuries kingship way has not worked well. According to him, the constitution will need to be amended so that a real Neak Mean Bonn or people with divine ancestry could be crowned as king as well, besides the Norodom and Sisowath blood lines.

    According to my Neak Mean Bonn, Cambodia is ready for a real Neak Mean Bonn soon as the country is destined to be great again, and not just staying with nose right above water line anymore. It is good news that Cambodians for generations have waited for.

    Cambodians/ the Khmers have suffered enough and deserve to be stable in real peace and prosperity. I always pray that the day will come soon.

    #316392
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    There are a few things about design problems in Cambodia constitution. I hope whoever in charge of its review or amendment pays attention to my free advice.

    1. The preamble looks sentimental and shows a miserable complex of inferiority. While it shows some truth pertaining to the past, it does not help to look forward. People need to have positive and encouraging outlooks which would lead them to strive for what are needed to be done in order to stay away from the miserable past.

    Whoever started the lines did not know anything besides putting vowels and consonants together. While Thailand educates its people to be arrogant and look down on Cambodians and Cambodia, Cambodia constitution keeps its people in a state of mind as wished by Thailand, a neighboring country that always waits to swallow this smaller country. The preamble should give a positive overlook to the future for the Khmers who need hope to be well stated so that they could try to work hard and strive for good things in their lives.

    The preamble shows that we are thankful to be alive through fights and wars. The constitution preamble means this to me as I read it the first time several years ago. The preamble does not need to implant readers and Cambodians this mentality of being of inferior status and thinking!!!

    2. Many countries around the world have opted to be kingless. With so much historical messes and criminal acts in royal families as history has shown, a kingdom style of Cambodia needs to have laws, a constitution, that selects a king well. Why restrict the selection among the incompetent and criminal lines of blood?

    The king plays a big role in international politics. Good sense requires that the new one needs to be of that experience and ability. The ability and quality, as Borameys advised me, should be of Neak Mean Bonn type. Selecting a new king from a set of sloppy royal family members will result in a sloppy king. Sloppy and incompetent king will just keep bringing misery to people who are and will be actually my family, my friends, my neighbors and compatriots (also yours).

    3. The article 13 and 14 of the Cambodia constitution deserves an overhaul as Borameys, who have divine vision, said. The overhaul includes divine relationship/ the Neak Mean Bonn line of heritage as part of qualification to be king. Cambodia with a Neak Mean Bonn line of ancestry as king would be better than the one with a sloppy vision and incompetent leadership. (the Prime Minister reports to king. The king does a lot of international relations).

    Since the Boramey telling, Cambodia has come to a political situation that enables amendment of its Constitution. The country has been in political situation to allow easy amendment of its constitution. All needed now are will to improve initiatives and deeds. In my understanding, Borameys have helped to put Cambodia in the right course! Cambodia better takes advantage of the divine assistance.

    4. Talking about constitution review and amendment, the king right to pardon needs to be reviewed. If a royal family member commits a criminal act, it is only fair, democratically, to put him or her in jail or prison like anybody else. When the present king Sihamoni pardoned his brother Ranarith for breaking the laws, the act just shows that the sloppy things still going on within royal families. Nothing has been changed or improved. When King Sihanouk pardoned his son (Chakrapong?) for trying to break three eastern provinces away from Phnom Penh government/ Cambodia, the excuse was nothing but against the good legal principle in a democracy that states that no one is above the laws. (Ref: Hun Sen, Cambodia Strong Man). If the king is inviolable, royal family members should be under the laws just like anybody else.

    The country system design is just still corrupt as ever. I hope I have done a good Bonn writing these free advices.

    [Message last modified 10-11-2009 05:48pm by veayoo]

    #316382
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    I have a comment on what I call French scum mentality. Quite a few people still show bad understanding over France merit on Cambodia history.

    The Preah Khan Reach article repeats what I have read recently on radio France Internationale/ Khmer language:

    http://www.rfi.fr/actukm/articles/117/article_2922.asp

    Both say that Cambodia owes France a lot of thanks for helping to keep Cambodia alive that is not to let Thailand or Vietnam swallowing Cambodia.

    I went to French schools myself. With Khmer history knowledge, I do not see that Cambodia should worry too much about thanking the French who came to dominate Cambodia.

    The French should be sued for facilitating paper works to allow Vietnam to take Kampuchea Krom. With the incompetent Khmer Kings, the French paper works let Vietnam legalized, the western way, the illegitimate snatching of Kampuchea Krom.

    France did something noticeable like training the Khmer Rouge like Pol Pot, Ieang Sary and Khieu Samphan, etc. Cambodians who are still blinded by French doctrines and brain washing drugs need to wake up and clean up the scum. They should see that suing France is a doable thing to relieve Kampuchea Krom and Cambodia loss. After all, France has not done much to help Cambodia and the Kampuchea Krom since. Why keep echoing the thanks and not looking into France careless mistakes?

    My Neak Mean Bonn addresses this issue as well.

    #316400
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    A Neak Mean Bonn appears to be an intelligent being who is competent to understand the causes of fights and wars and to know how to avoid these dirty recurring and full of Barb events.

    The intelligence must include great, of divine caliber, vision for real peace and prosperity.

    #316411
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    There are pros and cons when it come to the french & Cambodia

    The french did save Cambodia from being swallow up by Thai and Viet because at that time eastern Cambodia was under Thai control and Western Cambodia was under Viet control. French did save us

    and Yeah they did give Khmer krom to Vietnam but they took Angkor(northwest Cambodia) from Thailand and gave it back to Cambodia. They also gave Cambodian independence peacefully without going thru WAR. Unlike Laos and Vietnam, they have to go thru war with the french for their independence

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    I have a comment on what I call French scum mentality. Quite a few people still show bad understanding over France merit on Cambodia history.

    The Preah Khan Reach article repeats what I have read recently on radio France Internationale/ Khmer language: Both say that Cambodia owes France a lot of thanks for helping to keep Cambodia alive that is not to let Thailand or Vietnam swallowing Cambodia.

    I went to French schools myself. With Khmer history knowledge, I do not see that Cambodia should worry too much about thanking the French who came to dominate Cambodia.

    The French should be sued for facilitating paper works to allow Vietnam to take Kampuchea Krom. With the incompetent Khmer Kings, the French paper works let Vietnam legalized, the western way, the illegitimate snatching of Kampuchea Krom.

    #316419
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    veayoo
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    ——,

    By French accounting, France-in-Cambodia account may have collected some credits and debits. The balance could be negative or positive. I doubt of any positive result though.

    However, by Buddhism dharma and Yuma reach bookkeeping rules that I heard, Bonn and Barb are two distinct matters. 2 Bonns would not balance 2 Barbs. Yuma reach would just rule that France just has to go to hells first for its Barb before enjoying its Bonn.

    Christianity would not save France either. Jesus Christ told me face to face in a rare session that heavens and hells for Buddhists, Hinduists, Christians or Islams etc are the same. We all will have to face the same Yuma reach.

    Anyway, France should think of building more Bonns in Cambodia. It has not done much lately.

    [i]Originally posted by ——[/i]
    There are pros and cons when it come to the french & Cambodia

    The french did save Cambodia from being swallow up by Thai and Viet because at that time eastern Cambodia was under Thai control and Western Cambodia was under Viet control. French did save us

    and Yeah they did give Khmer krom to Vietnam but they took Angkor(northwest Cambodia) from Thailand and gave it back to Cambodia. They also gave Cambodian independence peacefully without going thru WAR. Unlike Laos and Vietnam, they have to go thru war with the french for their independence

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    I have a comment on what I call French scum mentality. Quite a few people still show bad understanding over France merit on Cambodia history.

    The Preah Khan Reach article repeats what I have read recently on radio France Internationale/ Khmer language: Both say that Cambodia owes France a lot of thanks for helping to keep Cambodia alive that is not to let Thailand or Vietnam swallowing Cambodia.

    I went to French schools myself. With Khmer history knowledge, I do not see that Cambodia should worry too much about thanking the French who came to dominate Cambodia.

    The French should be sued for facilitating paper works to allow Vietnam to take Kampuchea Krom. With the incompetent Khmer Kings, the French paper works let Vietnam legalized, the western way, the illegitimate snatching of Kampuchea Krom.

    [/quote]

    #316429
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    I like to state a few more words from Borameys about royal family corruption hidden in Khmer history and need of amending present Cambodia constitution.

    Present constitutional monarchy has somehow tamed the historical barbaric nature of Khmer kings and royal families. No more Sdach Kan to assassinate his king for the throne or Preah Khan Reach. A new king will need to be selected by a committee and then approved by the Assembly and Senate.

    Because history has shown also that previous and present king blood lines have led the country in a way that has shrunk Cambodia, the constitution needs to be perfected so that barbaric fights and wars as well as incompetency will not come back.

    Boramey solution for this is to include Neak Mean Bonn qualification into the selection criteria. The new king must be of a real Neak Mean Bonn ancestry.

    Boramey solution could boost Cambodia to a new level of peace and prosperity, thus away from decline seen since after Jayavarman VII. Borameys said Cambodia will turn Mohanokor with this approach.

    I think I would want a real Neak Mean Bonn to lead me too.

    #316441
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    I’m not trying to disturb you guys or something, but don’t you guys get sick and tired of writing all these stuff? I mean, do you think that people are going to read them? Not to take anything away from you, but it looks like you are writing a novel. It’s not a bad thing though. You guys did a great job in putting words together. To be honest with you though, some of the terms or all those long fancy words that you guys using are way too advanced for me or perhaps for others Khmer people. So, can you guys just do me a favor and tone down the vocab. and try to use all the simple words as much as you can so everyone could understand what you guys are saying. LOLZ

    #316451
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    veayoo
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    KhmerDude978,

    Thank you for the reminder. Simplicity is always the best way. I’ll try to remember that.

    With simplicity in mind, writing like mine needs to be precise as much as possible. This is a good practice in life, as i do not like to get suit for saying untrue or falsified things. Some simple words may not provide the exact meaning. Specialized words then would be the choice. I need to be to the point and specific as I can to avoid lengthy explanation also.

    Who reads all these lines? Only a very minority of readers would spend time on this kind of matter of spiritual and Boramey matters. Most would go to Romance or chit chat sections.

    Sure, the writing takes quite a bit of time as well as mental effort. I do get a fatigue, or simply said, I do get tired. Someone has to do it though :)

    [i]Originally posted by KhmerDude978[/i]
    I’m not trying to disturb you guys or something, but don’t you guys get sick and tired of writing all these stuff? I mean, do you think that people are going to read them? Not to take anything away from you, but it looks like you are writing a novel. It’s not a bad thing though. You guys did a great job in putting words together. To be honest with you though, some of the terms or all those long fancy words that you guys using are way too advanced for me or perhaps for others Khmer people. So, can you guys just do me a favor and tone down the vocab. and try to use all the simple words as much as you can so everyone could understand what you guys are saying. LOLZ

    #316461
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    The more I spend time looking into it, the spiritual world, magic, and curse etc seems to be of worldwide proportion and is not just a Cambodian specific superstition.

    History documentary about the Kennedys showed that Senator Ted Kennedy, when still alive, said at one point that his family has been cursed.

    This comment came out after so many deaths, shooting and various fatal accidents happened to his brothers and wife. Senator Ted Kennedy blew the remark out after his wife was killed of car plunging of a bridge and in the water. He went down with the car and his wife, but was able to get out.

    We know that later, after the comment, more fatal events happened to the famous family also.
    Curse has been mentioned in power of mantras in Cambodian culture.

    #316470
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    veayoo
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    Yes, Preah Beida God Tep Ek was the top Neak Mean Bonn.

    There are other Neak Mean Bonns that I have known too.

    Not all Neak mean Bonns have the same level of Bonn.

    There are other

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    His name is God, the One and Only God, Shiva, or Moha Prum.

    To my poor knowledge, he has no less than 12 wives, one after another: Sati, Parvati, Kali, Uma, Ganga, Chandi, Mahavidya, Mahagauri, Shailputri, Lalita…

    I read somewhere that all his different wives were actually the reincarnation of Sati, Shiva’s first wife and the daughter of Brahma.

    A reincarnation process includes death, soul processing by Yama, birth, and growth before reaching adulthood which is legal for marriage. This means that Shiva was much older than his consorts!

    If the many wives story or the reincarnation is true, how old was Shiva when he met his second wife or the later ones?

    I have NOT come across any reading that states complaint of age difference in God sex and marriage.

    #316480
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    veayoo
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    Khmer culture and language has a word of Bonnsak, which means official or mandarin rank. For instance, a military officer could have a Bonnsak of a captain or general. A public servant could have a Bonnsak as a village chief or province governor, etc.

    The Bonnsak concept shows that one needs to have merits in order to be somehow chosen to do something beyond normal citizen.

    This also explains Borameys telling that they have their own army and public workers, administrator, etc. The human Bonnsak model may be inspired from the bodiless world as well.

    The Khmer word and concept could have been inspired from a Neak Mean Bonn concept. The top Neak Mean Bonn may have been on the top of the ranks.

    #316488
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    veayoo
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    (Now, things start to look like a novel with suspense and mysteries!!!!)

    This is a story about How I knew the word Neak Mean Bonn. It has been showered on me for over 30 years.

    Counting from this writing date, it was a month ago. In September of 2009, a lady finally got to meet me face to face after a sour business which occurred over a year ago. She refused to return my money after cancellation of an agreement. She also refused to wait to execute the agreement in a later date.

    I had to cancel the agreement because a Boramey advised me that, if we were to execute the contract right away as agreed, either me or the lady’s child would get killed. I was told that there was a spell hanging on us. We had to wait.
    While I had no way to understand or see the spell, I saw no Bonn in getting myself or someone killed. I decided to let both myself and the other person live.

    The lady did not use any of the money yet, but flatly refused to give it back or to wait for a suitable time. I talked hard to her a couple of times and then considered the money as a total loss. Since then, I never dreamed of seeing my money back or the contract fulfilled. It was a loss, for me. I kept hearing that the lady was not feeling well and was mildly crazy. She had to stay in a crazy people hospital and later took drugs as an out-patient.

    Several months passed. The lady then started and kept calling me. I answered her calls numerous times, but could not continue doing so, as she talked like crazy, literally. She said yes today and then a few days later told me that she never did so. With this kind of conversation on my cell phone, many people would get the idea how frustrated I was with her crazy conversation. I had to shut my cell phone off for several weeks just to keep myself sane!

    Finally, in September of 2009, I allowed her to come and meet me in person. She travelled for a whole day to the meeting. At the meeting, she said for her sickness, she went to a traditional Kru. The Kru told her to go ahead and execute our original agreement in order for her to get back healthy. She cannot afford to play this game. On top of the advice, the Kru told her that she messed up with a Neak Mean Bonn.

    I felt very sorry that she had to go through all the trouble and pain. I was, again, surprised with the telling.
    Anyway, this was how an “enemy” came to reveal a Neak Mean Bonn attribute to me.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    The Neak Mean Bonn issue for me is actually whether it is Real or Not Real.

    As I stated earlier, I have been showered and bombarded with the term for years. As far as I can remember, the first telling came to me over 30 years ago, in 1978. The last telling came as recent as last month, September of 2009.

    I have not been able to convince myself of the various tellings.

    [Message last modified 10-06-2009 01:57pm by veayoo]

    #316499
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    veayoo,

    Still didn’t see your reply so I bring questions here :)

    Here the two questions:

    Here is my questions to you?
    1. Who’s JVII rigt hand man?
    2. What’s does it mean Preah Khan Reach (one sword-have two faces)?

    #316508
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    I do not see any interest in dealing with your kind of wasteful questions.

    However, they were answered, as quoted in the following:

    Answer your own questions, please
    ——————————————————————————–
    Dear SinNishM,

    You claimed to KNOW who has the Preah Khan Reach: in your posting, quoted below:

    “Anyhow, I KNOW who has the Real Preah Khan Reach ,”.

    Implicitly, did you claim that the Preah Khan Reach is Yours in the rest of the sentence?

    “now he’s waiting for my family to visit srok khmer again so he can give it back to the rightful owner! I know what it made of etc…..”.

    Till you know well what the English language words mean, such as what a claim is, you better provide answers to what you ask in your questions.

    I frankly do not know any anwer. Please provide the answers yourself.

    Thanks

    quote:
    ——————————————————————————–
    Originally posted by SinNishM
    Preah Khan Reach and The Genealogy of Khmer Kings;

    I briefly went through the article about this issue but it only mention after the 15th century or so right?

    Anyhow, I KNOW who has the Real Preah Khan Reach , now he’s waiting for my family to visit srok khmer again so he can give it back to the rightful owner! I know what it made of etc…..

    Veayoo,
    what’s up man? Learning new things from borameys everyday or what?
    You told me which boramey told you that your are JVII right? (Spoke w/her but not true what’s you told me)!

    Here is my questions to you?
    1. Who’s JVII rigt hand man?
    2. What’s does it mean Preah Khan Reach (one sword-have two faces)?

    Please don’t go back and look for answer because I didn’t posted any anwers. You may check w/your borameys and get back to me ASAP …..
    Thanks…..

    [i]Originally posted by SinNishM[/i]
    veayoo,

    Still didn’t see your reply so I bring questions here :)

    Here the two questions:

    Here is my questions to you?
    1. Who’s JVII rigt hand man?
    2. What’s does it mean Preah Khan Reach (one sword-have two faces)?

    [Message last modified 10-20-2009 11:49pm by veayoo]

    #316517
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    One morning, two years ago, a close niece came to me and told me that she saw me as a Neak Mean Bonn with pretty light. In her dream, she saw me illuminated on top of very high trees.

    A few months later, a stranger came to me and said similar thing. He said he saw me in his dream that I was a Neak Mean Bonn staying high above tall trees.

    From these two telling, I noticed later the concept of heavens, earth and hells in English literature. The literature depicted tree trunk as earth, below ground as hells and above the tree trunk as heavens.

    These two telling also reinforced previous Boramey telling about my Soul connection with a Real Neak Mean Bonn, God Ganesha.

    #316527
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    13 years ago, an old acquaintance went to a fortune teller as she considered doing a business with me.

    The fortune teller told her that I was of very high caliber Boon, she said.

    I got the business from her then

    #316537
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    Given all provided contributions plus quite a bit of analytical effort, I am still not getting much sense out of the Neak Mean Bonn use.

    Can anyone pitch in?

    What a Neak Mean Bonn is for?

    [Message last modified 10-26-2009 09:55pm by veayoo]

    [Message last modified 10-26-2009 11:18pm by veayoo]

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    A Neak Mean Bonn case: Preah Keo I

    A Preah Ko Preah Keo bilingual and thin book titled Preah Ko and Preah Keo ( published by Reyyum) called the two legendary icons Neak Mean Bonn (Cambodian version).

    In the legend, Preah Ko was born as a Boramey calf while Preah Keo was a normal human being. Preah Keo went through very sad life with a dead mother at birth, no milk to drink and got chased away by neighbors/ villagers for being in a weird family with calf as kid.

    As a boy, Preah Keo did not have enough food and was pressed by hunger to pick a few grains of rice that were stuck on banana leaves, thrown away by young cowboy kids. The banana leaves were used to wrap rice.

    The powerful Preah Ko had to spit out of his mouth divine foods with golden and silver plates/ spoons for the young hungry Preah Keo to eat. The divine food, golden and silver plates and spoons caused villagers to catch Preah Ko Preah Keo as they wanted the precious plates/ spoons as well as divine foods.

    [Message last modified 10-29-2009 01:37am by veayoo]

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    A Neak Mean Bonn case: Preah Keo II

    Following the escape from villagers, Preah Keo got to meet princess Neang Peou. Neang Peou got expelled from the palace, wandered in trees till she met her love, Preah Keo. The powerful Boramey Preah Ko then married the two and got a palace for the three of them to live in.

    The legendary story then came to betting games between Thai and Khmer kings. They bet their citizens and country in the game.

    Thai king won the first rooster fight game. The Khmer king, princess Neang Peou dad, asked for a rematch. Looking for a good rooster for the next betting game, the king subordinates found the expelled Neang Peou, Preah Keo and Preah Ko.

    Agreeing to help the king out, Preah Ko turned his bull body into a rooster. Preah Keo took his brother rooster to the game and beat the Thai rooster.

    Thai king then wanted to bet elephant fight game. Preah Ko then beat Thai elephant in similar manner as the above.

    Thai king wanted to bet in bull fight next. In this bet, Thai king made a mechanical bull to fight with the Khmer bull. Preah knew that he will not be able to defeat the mechanical bull. He told his bother Preah Keo and Neang Peou to stay nearby ready for an escape.

    [Message last modified 10-29-2009 01:36am by veayoo]

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    A Neak Mean Bonn case: Preah Keo III

    Unable to defeat Thai mechanical bull, Preah Ko ran to Preah Keo and Neang Peou who held his tail and the he flew away surprising everyone around.

    Having seen the miracle, Thai king wanted to catch and keep them.

    During this flight, Neang Peou could not hang on to Preah Ko tail long and then felt down and died. Indra then came and took Neang Peou soul to heavens.

    Preah Ko and Preah Keo landed at a fairly thick forest and hided there. “As soon as Preah Ko lived in that area, all the trees began to bear fresh fruit, charming flowers grew in the fields, and the animals behaved like good neighbors in a village, all living happily together”.

    Thai king wanted Preah Ko Preah Keo badly. He wanted to make his kingdom of Siam powerful. He had his soldiers chasing the two Khmer icons.

    Preah Ko Preah Keo went to hide in a thick bamboo forest of Longvek. Thai soldiers could not get through the thick bamboo forest and started to throw money coins into the forest to entice Khmer villagers to cut the bamboo forest out in order to collect the coins.

    With the bamboo thick forest gone, Thai soldiers came back to catch Preah Ko Preah Keo. The two brothers turned themselves into buffalos and disguise themselves with other buffalos. Thai soldiers then surrounded the buffalo herd with a rope made from buffalo skin. They then chase the buffalos who escaped by jumping over the buffalo skin ropes.

    Preah Ko Preah Keo, in buffalo bodies, did not dare to jump over the buffalo skin ropes because they were afraid to lose their divine power. They were caught, sworn at and took as prisoners to Thailand.

    [Message last modified 10-29-2009 01:35am by veayoo]

    #316548
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    For those of you who are interested with Boramey, God Ganesha and Preah Ko Preah Keo etc, I am leaving some writngs at this Khmer site/ pages as well:

    http://www.khmerwitica.com/public/forum/posts/id_5565/page_1/

    #316559
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    A Neak Mean Bonn case: Preah Keo IV

    “One night Preah Ko and Preah Keo managed to escape and returned to Cambodia. The Siamese soldiers once again chased them all over until they finally caught them again. This time, the soldiers did not dare to beat or taunt the two. Instead, they built a beautiful palace in the kingdom of Siam for Preah Ko and Preah Keo.

    They surrounded the palace with seven walls and hired good guards since they were always afraid that Preah Ko will try to escape again.

    The Siamese thought that for as long as Preah Ko stayed in their kingdom, they would have peace and prosperity. Thus, they have kept Preah Ko and Preah Keo in the kingdom of Siam from that time all the way until present, and Preah Ko and Preah Keo never again returned to Cambodia.”

    Note:

    The above was written in the Reyum Publisher book.
    Preah Ko returned to Cambodia in 2009. I had a personal Boramey session with him after his escape.

    #316599
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    to Veayoo,

    have you heard of the statue of Preah Ko that was found in 1980′s in Cambodia?

    #316609
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    ——,

    It appears to me that I heard something about the statute then. I cannot recall what it was.

    Could you help me refresh my poor memory?

    By the way, I plan to ask for another session with Preah Ko. You could help me ready with a few questions too.

    No guarantee that I will blessed with one. It would be up to him to answer or not too, as you know.

    [i]Originally posted by ——[/i]
    to Veayoo,

    have you heard of the statue of Preah Ko that was found in 1980′s in Cambodia?

    #316619
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    A Neak Mean Bonn case: Preah Keo V

    Knowing well that Preah Ko Preah Keo legend has been loved very deeply by the Khmers and Cambodians, I am trying to extract out some aspects that I noticed as important to Preah Keo, the Neak Mean Bonn.

    I talked about Preah Keo, and not Preah Ko, because the younger brother was a human and did not show any magic power/ Bonn to start.

    This extraction is by no mean complete. This is just my personal and quick effort to answer the question what a Neak Mean Bonn was for?

    The status of Neak Mean Bonn got Preah Keo the followings.

    Misery:

    1. He got to be motherless at birth.

    2. No mother means no breast feeding and no milk.

    3. He got to move away from a normal village community.

    4. He got starve with no food and had to pick left over rice grains from bananas leaves to eat.

    5. He got to escape from villagers who wanted the divine foods, gold and silver plates and spoons.

    6. He got to escape as Preah Ko could not defeat Thai mechanical bull.

    7. He got caught and imprisoned by the Thai.

    A few lucks:

    1. He got to meet and marry Neang Peou, the princess.

    2. He got to live in a palace magically built by Preah Ko.

    3. He got to help Neang Peou’s father who involved in gambling with Thai king.

    4. He got to eat divine foods on gold and silver plates.

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