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  • #1631839
    Avatar of Corey
    Corey
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    I have a lot of friends who are activists for Tibet, illegal immigrants, gay rights, etc. and a lot of them work for groups like Amnesty International. On Facebook I’m always asked to support or like a page for a certain cause and sometimes to donate time or money for these causes. Well, I’m surprised there hasn’t been a FB page made for Cambodian people’s rights or an anti-Hun Sen cause.

    I hear a lot of complaints from politicians or community groups about the conditions in Cambodia…but I don’t seem to see much activism.

    #1631840
    Avatar of KhmerCasanova
    KhmerCasanova
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    I think most people gave up. If you can’t beat him, just join him. People in OddarMeanchey saw what happened in 1997 to the Prince’s party. So the province joined CPP.

    #1631841
    Avatar of borospailin
    borospailin
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    yup..my brother ex in-law had to run for his life

    [i]Originally posted by KhmerCasanova[/i]
    I think most people gave up. If you can’t beat him, just join him. People in OddarMeanchey saw what happened in 1997 to the Prince’s party. So the province joined CPP.

    #1631842
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
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    #1631843
    Avatar of Kadin
    Kadin
    Moderator

    There are a few Pro-Hun Sen accounts on FB.

    បានចូលសាលា មានសញ្ញាប្រ័ត មិន ប្រាកដថាមានសមត្ថភាពក្នុងកិច្ចការ នោះទេ
    #1631844
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
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    #1631845
    Avatar of Corey
    Corey
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    I really wish Khmers weren’t passive like that.

    [i]Originally posted by KhmerCasanova[/i]
    I think most people gave up. If you can’t beat him, just join him. People in OddarMeanchey saw what happened in 1997 to the Prince’s party. So the province joined CPP.

    #1631846
    Avatar of Corey
    Corey
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    Did he document the things happening around him as proof?

    [i]Originally posted by borospailin[/i]
    yup..my brother ex in-law had to run for his life

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KhmerCasanova[/i]
    I think most people gave up. If you can’t beat him, just join him. People in OddarMeanchey saw what happened in 1997 to the Prince’s party. So the province joined CPP.

    [/quote]

    #1631847
    Avatar of Corey
    Corey
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    Oh yeah, I saw a couple of those.
    My god the brainwashing that’s going on in Cambodia right now

    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    There are a few Pro-Hun Sen accounts on FB.

    #1631848
    Avatar of leang_grel
    leang_grel
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    why don’t you start one?

    [i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
    I have a lot of friends who are activists for Tibet, illegal immigrants, gay rights, etc. and a lot of them work for groups like Amnesty International. On Facebook I’m always asked to support or like a page for a certain cause and sometimes to donate time or money for these causes. Well, I’m surprised there hasn’t been a FB page made for Cambodian people’s rights or an anti-Hun Sen cause.

    I hear a lot of complaints from politicians or community groups about the conditions in Cambodia…but I don’t seem to see much activism.

    #1631849
    Avatar of Kadin
    Kadin
    Moderator

    of all the PM candidates Cambodia has “right now, I support HUn Sen.

    Funny thing is…so many people in Cambodia do.

    [i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
    Oh yeah, I saw a couple of those.
    My god the brainwashing that’s going on in Cambodia right now
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    There are a few Pro-Hun Sen accounts on FB.

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 06-24-2011 12:24am by Kadin]

    បានចូលសាលា មានសញ្ញាប្រ័ត មិន ប្រាកដថាមានសមត្ថភាពក្នុងកិច្ចការ នោះទេ
    #1631850
    Avatar of OhMyLinG
    OhMyLinG
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    Yeah, he does a good job so far. The country is growing and most people are happy. I support him as well, but i don’t mind having a new prime minister.

    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    of all the PM candidates Cambodia has “right now, I support HUn Sen.

    Funny thing is…so many people in Cambodia do.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
    Oh yeah, I saw a couple of those.
    My god the brainwashing that’s going on in Cambodia right now
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    There are a few Pro-Hun Sen accounts on FB.

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 06-24-2011 12:24am by Kadin][/quote]

    #1631851
    Avatar of KhmerCasanova
    KhmerCasanova
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    [i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
    Did he document the things happening around him as proof?
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by borospailin[/i]
    yup..my brother ex in-law had to run for his life

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KhmerCasanova[/i]
    I think most people gave up. If you can’t beat him, just join him. People in OddarMeanchey saw what happened in 1997 to the Prince’s party. So the province joined CPP.

    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    The stories I heard were brutal. The fighting even left child soldiers dead. I don’t wanna say to much over the net but it reminded my family of a certain era.

    #1631852
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
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    think taht Hun Xen did a good job of getting the rebel x khmer rouge to join in the government. Because back in 80′s and 90′s there was always small pocket of resistance from the khmer rouge in pailin area. And they were in their own krom and didnt conform to the new government and its law.

    Hun Xen eventually use his power to bring them in to accept the government and join forces, thus cambodia is cleaned from any resistant x khmer rouge fighters. Now the country is under one government, and that is why the police were able to apprehend the x khmer rouge leader to bring them to trial.

    I am very glad that cambodia is safe from khmer rouge and its legacy. You dont hear anything of large arms conflicts like you use to back in the 80′s and early 90′s.
    So i give Samdech Hun Xen props for bringing peace between the former khmer rouge supporters to join the forces of the entire nations government.

    Now the only problem you hear is from government taking land away to develope the country.

    #1631853
    Avatar of Kadin
    Kadin
    Moderator

    What;s the title of that book, Jack?
    I think it’s what I have been looking for.

    បានចូលសាលា មានសញ្ញាប្រ័ត មិន ប្រាកដថាមានសមត្ថភាពក្នុងកិច្ចការ នោះទេ
    #1631854
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
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    tranlation to english is ” person die in khmer rouge “

    #1631855
    Avatar of Kadin
    Kadin
    Moderator

    thanks.

    បានចូលសាលា មានសញ្ញាប្រ័ត មិន ប្រាកដថាមានសមត្ថភាពក្នុងកិច្ចការ នោះទេ
    #1631856
    Avatar of KomLostBong
    KomLostBong
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    Wow!!!! PM Hun Sen wife so good dancing, huh!!??

    Originally posted by JackTsang05
    watch him dance saravan here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLA8aZtQfDE&feature=feedu/quote

    #1631857
    Avatar of Corey
    Corey
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    I would, if only I knew enough and have seen the real atrocities for my own eyes.
    But I’ve only seen signs of his tyranny, I’ve only heard stories from other people. I don’t feel that’s enough.

    But because there are so many people who have seen the atrocities firsthand I’ve wondered why they stay so passive about it? I wish they were able to help educate more people like myself who live in foreign countries.

    [i]Originally posted by leang_grel[/i]

    why don’t you start one?

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
    I have a lot of friends who are activists for Tibet, illegal immigrants, gay rights, etc. and a lot of them work for groups like Amnesty International. On Facebook I’m always asked to support or like a page for a certain cause and sometimes to donate time or money for these causes. Well, I’m surprised there hasn’t been a FB page made for Cambodian people’s rights or an anti-Hun Sen cause.

    I hear a lot of complaints from politicians or community groups about the conditions in Cambodia…but I don’t seem to see much activism.

    [/quote]

    #1631858
    Avatar of Corey
    Corey
    Participant

    I really don’t like this about Khmers. They just settle for the lesser of two evils and sweep everything else under the rug, even though every where they walk they can still feel everything underneath their feet.

    [i]Originally posted by OhMyLinG[/i]
    Yeah, he does a good job so far. The country is growing and most people are happy. I support him as well, but i don’t mind having a new prime minister.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    of all the PM candidates Cambodia has “right now, I support HUn Sen.

    Funny thing is…so many people in Cambodia do.

    [/quote]

    #1631859
    Avatar of brach
    brach
    Participant

    Khmer people in the West wants Cambodia to have democratic values like those of the West. It’s not going to happen over night; America’s democracy didn’t happen overnight.

    Culture between countries determine people’s values and belief, the people in that country supposedly elect politicians to make the laws accordingly to fits those values and belief.

    For example: Freedom of Expressions; most people in the West knew it’s boundary, they know when to step or not to step over the line. An example of this is the doomsday rapture group’s prediction, people at my workplace think that these people are complete morons. Compared this if it were in Cambodia, you have one morons as leader, the next thing you know you’ll have 12 out of 14 millions people following this idiot. You don’t even need a leader, all you have to do is find a ‘mung bean’ seller who spread rumor that eating the bean could cure SAR. The next thing you know, you have the whole population of PP eating mung beans. Similar tragic case is the Cambodian genocide committed by the KR.

    You can’t have a true democracy when people and leaders can’t think for themselves. Democracy will follow when the country is at peace, people are well-fed and high quality of education are ubiquitous. Naturally, when people have enough of something they’ll look for something more —- democracy. There will be a qualify leader that will lead them there.

    #1631860
    Avatar of sreypouv
    sreypouv
    Participant

    I’m not much into politics, but i do agree with you. I look at Cambodia like i look at my investment portfolios. I won’t be wealthy overnight but i’ll get there. With this said, Cambodia has the political system in place set up by UNTAC in the 90s. When the time is right and Cambodia is ready there’ll be leaders.

    So enjoy yourself and help khmai anyway you can!

    [i]Originally posted by brach[/i]
    Khmer people in the West wants Cambodia to have democratic values like those of the West. It’s not going to happen over night; America’s democracy didn’t happen overnight.

    Culture between countries determine people’s values and belief, the people in that country supposedly elect politicians to make the laws accordingly to fits those values and belief.

    For example: Freedom of Expressions; most people in the West knew it’s boundary, they know when to step or not to step over the line. An example of this is the doomsday rapture group’s prediction, people at my workplace think that these people are complete morons. Compared this if it were in Cambodia, you have one morons as leader, the next thing you know you’ll have 12 out of 14 millions people following this idiot. You don’t even need a leader, all you have to do is find a ‘mung bean’ seller who spread rumor that eating the bean could cure SAR. The next thing you know, you have the whole population of PP eating mung beans. Similar tragic case is the Cambodian genocide committed by the KR.

    You can’t have a true democracy when people and leaders can’t think for themselves. Democracy will follow when the country is at peace, people are well-fed and high quality of education are ubiquitous. Naturally, when people have enough of something they’ll look for something more —- democracy. There will be a qualify leader that will lead them there.

    #1631862
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
    Participant

    Sorry getting off topic just arguing with your statement right here
    “Compared this if it were in Cambodia, you have one morons as leader, the next thing you know you’ll have 12 out of 14 millions people following this idiot. Similar tragic case is the Cambodian genocide committed by the KR.”

    Leaders have to somewhat intelligent to get where there are at, excluding Hun Xen. He just in the seat of power because of his Viet friends. As for Pol Pot he was an educated man and had a decent agenda for the Kampuchea land. Main Agenda rid the country of the influx of foreigners like the Vietnamese , chinese, etc…. Mostly he hated the Vietnamese considering that Saloth Sar is Mix Chinese he saw the Vienamese were overpowering the main khmer population. They were taking more high position jobs, and making the khmer people the lesser in their own country.
    Things just got outta hand with him and lead him which lead it to a muderous regime.

    He is just like Mao Tse Tong of China, except he didnt succeed like Mao where is revered as the great leader, but unlike china the World see Mao as muderous regime just like the Khmer rouge. Pol Pot failed and seen as a war criminal. If pol pot was to succeed like that of china, he would be look up too like the Mao .

    Phnom Penh, Pol Pot(Saloth Sar) qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953. He also participated in an international labour brigade building roads in Zagreb in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in 1950

    [i]Originally posted by brach[/i]
    For example: Freedom of Expressions; most people in the West knew it’s boundary, they know when to step or not to step over the line. An example of this is the doomsday rapture group’s prediction, people at my workplace think that these people are complete morons. Compared this if it were in Cambodia, you have one morons as leader, the next thing you know you’ll have 12 out of 14 millions people following this idiot. Similar tragic case is the Cambodian genocide committed by the KR.

    [Message last modified 06-24-2011 10:38pm by JackTsang05]

    [Message last modified 06-24-2011 10:58pm by JackTsang05]

    #1631861
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
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    I like Pol Pot political agenda of ridding Kampuchea land of the intrusive Vietnamese. They were cominng in the millions and taking over jobs and the economy of the khmer people. They were making us Khmer the Aliens of our own nation, thus Pol Pot and regime depised the Viet and eventually later on would wage a border wars with the Viet-congs.

    I dislike: how his government was run and that they accused eachother as spies or working with the vietnamese.
    : how they killed the intellectual population and kept the non-intellectual and molded them to their likings.

    Look at today Kampuchea… Most business owners are what ? Either Chinese or Vietnamese …. :(

    Closing Statement: in the end i wish Pol Pot had succeed in ridding the Vietnamese and giving the jobs and position to Khmer and recapturing Khmer Krom to come under Cambodia as it should. Somewhere down the line.. things went horrible wrong and mostly the khmer citizen paid for it.

    #1631863

    AhSaren
    Participant

    What’s the next best alternative to Hun Sen?

    #1631864
    Avatar of Kadin
    Kadin
    Moderator

    Now you can answer AhSaren’s question.

    [i]Originally posted by MrNiceGuy[/i]
    Kadin even support the government beating of forced eviction victims HAHA

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    of all the PM candidates Cambodia has “right now, I support HUn Sen.

    Funny thing is…so many people in Cambodia do.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Corey[/i]
    Oh yeah, I saw a couple of those.
    My god the brainwashing that’s going on in Cambodia right now
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    There are a few Pro-Hun Sen accounts on FB.

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 06-24-2011 12:24am by Kadin][/quote]
    [/quote]

    បានចូលសាលា មានសញ្ញាប្រ័ត មិន ប្រាកដថាមានសមត្ថភាពក្នុងកិច្ចការ នោះទេ
    #1631865
    Avatar of n_n1985
    n_n1985
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    I can propose 1 or 2, but they aren’t in the political game. Who ought to become the next Khmer prime minister is up to Khmer citizens to decide, let the votes do the talking. But the main problem is, and ongoing since the last 2 decades is that the votes have never speak for themselves. The CPP regime notoriously known to use force, threats, manipulations and anything you could imagine.

    By reading the new medias, visiting the Angkor temples will not give you the feel on how much pain millions of Cambodians undeservingly deserved. Try asking your (educated) friends in Srok Khmer to which they will vote for in the coming election other than the CPP they probably less likely will tell you, I’ll let you figure that one out for yourselves.

    #1631866
    Avatar of KhmerCasanova
    KhmerCasanova
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    [i]Originally posted by AhSaren[/i]
    What’s the next best alternative to Hun Sen?

    The true winners of the 1993 election. I do not like that party but they won fair and square. That’s what the people asked 4.

    #1631867
    Avatar of JackTsang05
    JackTsang05
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    without a strongman like Hun Xen, you think the rebel khmer rouge soldiers would ever join forces with the current government.
    Dont forget that in the early 90′s the khmer rouge still control area in cambodia where their were waging small arm battles with the current government.

    At least you should be happy khmer arent shooting eachother anymore in that grand of scale like it was in the early 90′s

    [i]Originally posted by MrNiceGuy[/i]
    Did Mr. Hun Sen loss in 1993 election?? Yes, yes, yes…But he did not quit from there on. he continue to fight, but this time with force to topple his opponent. Plus he’s a former Khmer Rogue, Kadin supported him killing 10 thousand of Cambodians tehehe

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by KhmerCasanova[/i]

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by AhSaren[/i]
    What’s the next best alternative to Hun Sen?

    The true winners of the 1993 election. I do not like that party but they won fair and square. That’s what the people asked 4. [/quote]
    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 06-25-2011 11:56pm by JackTsang05]

    #1631868
    Avatar of HelloCambodia
    HelloCambodia
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    I don’t see how killing all the educated including Khmers in Cambodia can help a country. So his agenda must’ve been totally unreasonable. Pol Pot could’ve been a Vietnamese disguised as a Khmer with a seemingly optimistic agenda as well.

    [i]Originally posted by JackTsang05[/i]
    [img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44125000/jpg/_44125431_khmerrouge203.jpg[/img]

    I like Pol Pot political agenda of ridding Kampuchea land of the intrusive Vietnamese. They were cominng in the millions and taking over jobs and the economy of the khmer people. They were making us Khmer the Aliens of our own nation, thus Pol Pot and regime depised the Viet and eventually later on would wage a border wars with the Viet-congs.

    I dislike: how his government was run and that they accused eachother as spies or working with the vietnamese.
    : how they killed the intellectual population and kept the non-intellectual and molded them to their likings.

    Look at today Kampuchea… Most business owners are what ? Either Chinese or Vietnamese …. :(

    Closing Statement: in the end i wish Pol Pot had succeed in ridding the Vietnamese and giving the jobs and position to Khmer and recapturing Khmer Krom to come under Cambodia as it should. Somewhere down the line.. things went horrible wrong and mostly the khmer citizen paid for it.

    [img]http://www.rockin4tabitha.ca/userfiles/khmer_rouge_03(1).jpg[/img]

    #1631869
    Avatar of HelloCambodia
    HelloCambodia
    Participant

    Don’t forget that Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge himself, that’s why he got other Khmer Rouge gorillas to join the government to control the citizens. Pol Pot may have not wanted Viets to take the high ranking positions back in the 70s but apparently Hun Sen demands the opposite.

    #1631870
    Avatar of Meli
    Meli
    Participant

    hun sen’s niece is a member in here so be careful what u say. not to mention she rule this place with an iron pen is

    #1631871
    Avatar of leang_grel
    leang_grel
    Participant

    He was in charge during the second killing field known as the K5 program. he killed a few thousand more during 1997 coup d’etat.

    #1631872
    Avatar of leang_grel
    leang_grel
    Participant

    what is her screen name?

    [i]Originally posted by Meli[/i]
    hun sen’s niece is a member in here so be careful what u say. not to mention she rule this place with an iron pen is

    #1631873
    Avatar of Meli
    Meli
    Participant

    that’s all he can do is ban us. typical Hun sen family traits it runs in the family

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