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    Last year, a friend of mine in PP told me she wanted to go to Australia to work at a vine yard picking grapes. She said there’s a sponsor who will arrange everything and will take half of the money she earns during that 6 months( the visa only lasts 6 months?). She calculated the income n said it’s not worth it, so she didn’t go.
    Now another friend also wants to go. I told her about my first friend, but she said the owner of the farm can sponsor her and will not take half of the money. I asked her if that’s true? bcoz base on my common sense, they might hire u if u r already therre, but I don’t think they would sponsor ppl from Cambodia…that’s a lot of work, and that’s where the middleman comes in. She said she’s not sure either.

    If you guys know anything related to this matter, please help give some inputs. Thanks in advance!

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    #1629996
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    Kadin
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    Your first friend:
    I don’t understand why the sponsor took half of her pay check for six months.
    These are rhetorical questions:

    Was the total deducted from her pay equivalent to the cost of getting her there? + food +room and board?
    how much was the total cost of getting her there?
    How much was she paid each month?
    How many hours did she work each day?

    If the sponsor doesn’t take her pay, she might need to pay for the visa, flight ticket (2 ways) room/board and the cost of living while she stays there.

    I haven’t read about fruit pickers in AUS.
    However, I read about something similar to this.
    And it wasn’t all that great for the workers.
    Most of the time, they’re in a disadvantage position.

    I’ll find a few articles for you tomorrow.

    I’m too sleepy right now :D

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Last year, a friend of mine in PP told me she wanted to go to Australia to work at a vine yard picking grapes. She said there’s a sponsor who will arrange everything and will take half of the money she earns during that 6 months( the visa only lasts 6 months?). She calculated the income n said it’s not worth it, so she didn’t go.
    Now another friend also wants to go. I told her about my first friend, but she said the owner of the farm can sponsor her and will not take half of the money. I asked her if that’s true? bcoz base on my common sense, they might hire u if u r already therre, but I don’t think they would sponsor ppl from Cambodia…that’s a lot of work, and that’s where the middleman comes in. She said she’s not sure either.

    If you guys know anything related to this matter, please help give some inputs. Thanks in advance!

    [Message last modified 06-07-2011 03:04pm by Kadin]

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    #1629997
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    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    Your first friend:
    I don’t understand why the sponsor took half of her pay check for six months.
    [b](a sponsor who will arrange everything and will take half of the money she earns during that 6 months)[/b]

    These are rhetorical questions:

    Was the total deducted from her pay equivalent to the cost of getting her there? + food +room and board?
    how much was the total cost of getting her there?
    How much was she paid each month?
    How many hours did she work each day?

    [b]I don’t know, I’m hoping to get feedbacks… [/b]

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    #1629998
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    Panh04
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    I hope she isn’t planning to carry any illegal substance to Australia…I heard so many stories about this operation, where sponsor asked them to carry or conceal (put drug into their body)….anyway be careful…no body give you free money!

    Did the sponsor pay for plane ticket and place to stay? I guess it’s why they take half of her income.

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Last year, a friend of mine in PP told me she wanted to go to Australia to work at a vine yard picking grapes. She said there’s a sponsor who will arrange everything and will take half of the money she earns during that 6 months( the visa only lasts 6 months?). She calculated the income n said it’s not worth it, so she didn’t go.
    Now another friend also wants to go. I told her about my first friend, but she said the owner of the farm can sponsor her and will not take half of the money. I asked her if that’s true? bcoz base on my common sense, they might hire u if u r already therre, but I don’t think they would sponsor ppl from Cambodia…that’s a lot of work, and that’s where the middleman comes in. She said she’s not sure either.

    If you guys know anything related to this matter, please help give some inputs. Thanks in advance!

    #1629999
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    leang_grel
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    Ask them:

    Who get to keep your passport ? you or sponsor.

    I don’t know about Australian labor law, but in the US, the farm workers make alot less than minimum wage, as in $2 or $3 dollars per hour. Air fare, room and board, paper work, middle man commission and taxes might take alot longer than six months to make it even.

    Ask if this kind of labor is subjected to Australian labor law, if it is, it is good. Sometime workers do not get pay.

    Also ask if they are going directly to Australia or stop somewhere else. if it stop somewhere else, it is human trafficking.

    a few years back there was alot of chinese carried cambodian passports got stuck and stopped at panana on their way to US.

    you got to find out if the sponsor is legitimate, by asking for references from current and former workers.

    Good luck!!!!! Damn not going to complain about my job anymore.

    #1630000
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    If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t. Follow that simple rule in life & you won’t get screwed by cons, liars, thieves, or just evil bastards out there.

    #1630001
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    I did some produce picking in BC and we got paid by the bucket. Like…10 dollars a bucket…that’s just an example, can’t remember how much it really was.
    So..if you friend is really good and fast at picking, she might make alot of money.
    But for some reason, it seems sketchy to me.

    #1630002
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    Kadin
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    the sponsor took half of the salary.
    You should ask your friend the rhetorical questions I listed.
    She’d know. It’s best to hear it from the horse’s mouth.

    Was the deducted amount the reimbursement for what the sponsor put out or was the amount deducted excess the cost of getting her there?

    about the 6 months.
    Picking fruit is a seasonal job. My guess is a 6-month visa is good enough.

    here a couple articles:

    http://cpcabrisbane.org/Kasama/2006/V20n4/LHMUNews.htm

    http://www.amnesty.org.au/news/comments/117/

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    Your first friend:
    I don’t understand why the sponsor took half of her pay check for six months.
    [b](a sponsor who will arrange everything and will take half of the money she earns during that 6 months)[/b]

    These are rhetorical questions:

    Was the total deducted from her pay equivalent to the cost of getting her there? + food +room and board?
    how much was the total cost of getting her there?
    How much was she paid each month?
    How many hours did she work each day?

    [b]I don’t know, I’m hoping to get feedbacks… [/b]

    [/quote]

    [Message last modified 06-08-2011 12:54am by Kadin]

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    #1630003
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    Oh…kadin….you never read things clearly before responding. :p
    She said her friend did not go through with it. :p

    #1630004
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    Kadin
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    hahahah oh man. I messed up again.
    thanks.

    I read it last night. I didn’t read it again today.

    but, the friend would still have some of the answers.
    she DID the calculation.

    [i]Originally posted by Mercury-Star[/i]
    Oh…kadin….you never read things clearly before responding. :p
    She said her friend did not go through with it. :p

    [Message last modified 06-08-2011 01:07am by Kadin]

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    #1630005
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    [i]Originally posted by Panh04[/i]
    I hope she isn’t planning to carry any illegal substance to Australia…I heard so many stories about this operation, where sponsor asked them to carry or conceal (put drug into their body)….anyway be careful…no body give you free money!
    [b] there will be no such thing, if asked she wouldn’t do it n wouldn’t go. And we are not talking about free money, we r talking about working under the sun picking fruit for 8 hrs a day, she should get sth in return, right? [/b]

    Did the sponsor pay for plane ticket and place to stay? I guess it’s why they take half of her income.
    [b] yes, that’s wat I heard. They help with the visa, a plane ticket, a place to stay, n where to work, n they take half of the income [/b]

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630024
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    [i]Originally posted by leang_grel[/i]
    Ask them:

    Who get to keep your passport ? you or sponsor.
    [b] I don’t know. But I think the sponsor will keep your passport bcoz they r afraid that u’ll run away, n all their hard work becomes nothing. I heard it happens to those singers n karaoke stars from Cambodia too, their sponsor keep their passports and get more money from their performance than them. [/b]

    I don’t know about Australian labor law, but in the US, the farm workers make alot less than minimum wage, as in $2 or $3 dollars per hour. Air fare, room and board, paper work, middle man commission and taxes might take alot longer than six months to make it even.
    Ask if this kind of labor is subjected to Australian labor law, if it is, it is good. Sometime workers do not get pay.
    [b] $2-$3 an hour? if so, I don’t think she would go, bcoz we make more than that in Cambodia. What I heard, she could earn up to $80 a day working 8-10 hours, but $40 would go to the sponsor. Murcury_Star just said they paid $10 per basket, so it’s possible. Let’s say it’s true..n she really wants it, so she works 7 days a week (just assume), that will be $80×7 days= $560 a week, $560×4 weeks= $2240 a month, $2240×6 months=$ 13440 in total, n she’ll get $6720. .this is what I know, I used to live with an Aussie family when I was in college, they invited me to their son’s wedding in Sydney, they could help get the visa, and I only had to pay for the round trip ticket which was $800. But I couldn’t go bcoz I didn’t have $800. And $6720 is more than enough for the sponsor to cover everything n still make a lot of money..u know they r not gonna rent an apartment for her, right? they just throw her in a room with 10 other workers..and they don’t pay tax bcoz she is not legal a worker, what do they call it? working under the table sth sth.. But another thing is it’s not guaranteed that they’ll hire for the whole 6 months bcoz it depends on the fruit season, no fruit, no work. [/b]

    Also ask if they are going directly to Australia or stop somewhere else. if it stop somewhere else, it is human traf*!#@ing.

    a few years back there was alot of chinese carried cambodian passports got stuck and stopped at panana on their way to US.

    you got to find out if the sponsor is legitimate, by asking for references from current and former workers.

    Good luck!!!!! Damn not going to complain about my job anymore.
    [b] I wouldn’t worry about my first friend, but I do with the second one….though I think she’s got some relatives in Australia, if I’m not mistaken. [/b]

    [Message last modified 06-08-2011 12:55pm by Darony]

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    #1630006
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    Darony
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    It’s not that too good….it’s not like working there is heaven or sth, they want cheap labor and we r willing to work cheap for them…., ppl have done that b4, one of our famous movie sar, Khai Proset, has done it n still staying there.

    [i]Originally posted by agent0o5[/i]
    If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t. Follow that simple rule in life & you won’t get screwed by cons, liars, thieves, or just evil bastards out there.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630007
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    Darony
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    Thanks for the info, Star. I don’t really know if she’s fast or not, but I’m sure she will be if fast means money lol…anyway, I feel the same, especially with my second friend, u know, regarding the farm owner sponsoring ppl from Cambodia to work for them thing..I just don’t think they do. My first friend makes more sense.

    [i]Originally posted by Mercury-Star[/i]
    I did some produce picking in BC and we got paid by the bucket. Like…10 dollars a bucket…that’s just an example, can’t remember how much it really was.
    So..if you friend is really good and fast at picking, she might make alot of money.
    But for some reason, it seems sketchy to me.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630008
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    Darony
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    Thanks for trying.

    [i]Originally posted by Kadin[/i]
    hahahah oh man. I messed up again.
    thanks.

    I read it last night. I didn’t read it again today.

    but, the friend would still have some of the answers.
    she DID the calculation.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Mercury-Star[/i]
    Oh…kadin….you never read things clearly before responding. :p
    She said her friend did not go through with it. :p

    [Message last modified 06-08-2011 01:07am by Kadin][/quote]

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    #1630009
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    [i]Originally posted by Mercury-Star[/i]
    I did some produce picking in BC and we got paid by the bucket. Like…10 dollars a bucket…that’s just an example, can’t remember how much it really was.
    So..if you friend is really good and fast at picking, she might make alot of money.
    But for some reason, it seems sketchy to me.

    I’ve done that before. I went to pick peas once because my mum kept talking about how difficult it was to make a buck when they first arrived in America and how we always take things for granted. My dad would tell us stories about how he used to make only $50/day while going to school and taking care of all of us. So my younger sister and I were like BS.. how hard can picking veggies be? TOGETHER, from 5am-6pm, we made only $21 lol. You think you’ve filled up a bucket then someone comes and pushes that sh!t down and gets it all compacted! We’d stare at the now half-filled bucket… then at them like aren’t you afraid of bruising the peas? Sponsor or not, I’d be hella mad if someone took $10.50 from me after all that work.

    #1630010
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    take a way all exspand not much moneys to take back home. likely if you go to pick fruits there.

    i visited Aust 3 months one time and i went to my aunt’s farm picked fruits and vegetibles for about a month. I love Aust it’s my second home too.

    #1630011
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    Never did peas, only raspberries and strawberries.
    Except, strawberries, I ended up eating most of them…kekeke.

    #1630012
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    Darony
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    lol, u r funny, oun linnie. Anyway, that’s how my friend felt too, half of that 6 months is a lot. It would be better if they charge for a certain amount for the service-visa,ticket, accommodation, and job..let’s say $2000-$3000?

    [i]Originally posted by linnnie[/i]
    I’ve done that before. I went to pick peas once because my mum kept talking about how difficult it was to make a buck when they first arrived in America and how we always take things for granted. My dad would tell us stories about how he used to make only $50/day while going to school and taking care of all of us. So my younger sister and I were like BS.. how hard can picking veggies be? TOGETHER, from 5am-6pm, we made only $21 lol. You think you’ve filled up a bucket then someone comes and pushes that sh!t down and gets it all compacted! We’d stare at the now half-filled bucket… then at them like aren’t you afraid of bruising the peas? [b]Sponsor or not, I’d be hella mad if someone took $10.50 from me after all that work.[/b]

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    #1630013
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    Darony
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    that’s more than what u got paid for lol…I would too, even bring some ombel mtes along :p

    [i]Originally posted by Mercury-Star[/i]
    Never did peas, only raspberries and strawberries.
    Except, strawberries, [b]I ended up eating most of them[/b]…kekeke.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630014
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    Darony
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    Do u know how much they pay per hour/day? thanks…all the info I got here isn’t clear.

    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    take a way all exspand not much moneys to take back home. likely if you go to pick fruits there.

    i visited Aust 3 months one time and i went to my aunt’s farm picked fruits and vegetibles for about a month. I love Aust it’s my second home too.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630015
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    i will email my brother in-law to find out for you. They live in Melburne and Adelate.
    I don’t know.
    I think how they pay is difference from United States. In USA when i was picked fruits during my high school years was they pay by weight its in (lb).

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Do u know how much they pay per hour/day? thanks…all the info I got here isn’t clear.
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    take a way all exspand not much moneys to take back home. likely if you go to pick fruits there.

    i visited Aust 3 months one time and i went to my aunt’s farm picked fruits and vegetibles for about a month. I love Aust it’s my second home too.

    [/quote]

    #1630016

    AhSaren
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    oh yeah the good old days of picking corn, cherry,and onion. Waking up at 3am and working til 12pm in the summer heat.

    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    i will email my brother in-law to find out for you. They live in Melburne and Adelate.
    I don’t know.
    I think how they pay is difference from United States. In USA when i was picked fruits during my high school years was they pay by weight its in (lb).

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Do u know how much they pay per hour/day? thanks…all the info I got here isn’t clear.
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    take a way all exspand not much moneys to take back home. likely if you go to pick fruits there.

    i visited Aust 3 months one time and i went to my aunt’s farm picked fruits and vegetibles for about a month. I love Aust it’s my second home too.

    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    #1630017
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    Darony
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    Thanks

    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    [b]i will email my brother in-law to find out for you.[/b] They live in Melburne and Adelate.
    I don’t know.
    I think how they pay is difference from United States. In USA when i was picked fruits during my high school years was they pay by weight its in (lb).

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Do u know how much they pay per hour/day? thanks…all the info I got here isn’t clear.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630018
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    yap_nass
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    I’d definitely check the credibility of the sponsor first. Is it a Cambodian person or someone of other descent? Note that I’ve heard stories of a number of Cambodian-Australian going to Cambodia and boasts about owning farm etc. when in fact they’re merely agents for the farm owners, i.e. they find workers for the owner, drive the workers to the place and charge them for transportation. Some of them take a small cut from the workers even though they have already been paid by the farm owner, i.e. double dipping. Not to say that sponsors of other descents are unlikely to abuse the situation, there are stories of that too.

    Ask the sponsor about the process. What visa they’re going to sponsor you on? Where the farm is located? Try to find out as much as you can about the sponsor and the work. It’s not that simple to get a working visa in Australia. Here’s a link to the visa that your friend might be sponsored on http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/la/

    And I don’t think the sponsor is allow to keep your friend’s passport. Though I can understand why they might want to; there have been cases of people coming here and overstaying their welcome,i.e. run away and stay illegally. The sponsor gets in the government’s black book in such case, hence making it difficult for them to sponsor in future.

    I’m not familiar with the pay but it’s possible to make as much as $100 a day picking fruits and vegetable. Many farmers pay their pickers by the buckets or bins that they pick. For the packers are paid by the number of packets they can pack in a day. I have friends that pack strawberries and can make as much as $120-$150 a day..but they have fast hands. I’ve only picked snow peas, but that was many years ago and made less than $50 a day.

    Hope that helps.

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Last year, a friend of mine in PP told me she wanted to go to Australia to work at a vine yard picking grapes. She said there’s a sponsor who will arrange everything and will take half of the money she earns during that 6 months( the visa only lasts 6 months?). She calculated the income n said it’s not worth it, so she didn’t go.
    Now another friend also wants to go. I told her about my first friend, but she said the owner of the farm can sponsor her and will not take half of the money. I asked her if that’s true? bcoz base on my common sense, they might hire u if u r already therre, but I don’t think they would sponsor ppl from Cambodia…that’s a lot of work, and that’s where the middleman comes in. She said she’s not sure either.

    If you guys know anything related to this matter, please help give some inputs. Thanks in advance!

    #1630019
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    Pisey
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    ^yep that pretty much sums it all up… However I thought workers were paid by the hours!!
    Picking fruits as leisure u pay them by kg or buckets I think…

    Oh n it’s worth mentioning to ur friends, Darony, Australian sun is super harsh…. So in the long run it might cost ur friends more in skin care repairing the sun damage hehehe :D

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    #1630020
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    Pisey
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    Melbourne and Adelaide!!!

    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    i will email my brother in-law to find out for you. They live in Melburne and Adelate.
    I don’t know.
    I think how they pay is difference from United States. In USA when i was picked fruits during my high school years was they pay by weight its in (lb).

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Do u know how much they pay per hour/day? thanks…all the info I got here isn’t clear.
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    take a way all exspand not much moneys to take back home. likely if you go to pick fruits there.

    i visited Aust 3 months one time and i went to my aunt’s farm picked fruits and vegetibles for about a month. I love Aust it’s my second home too.

    [/quote]
    [/quote]

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    #1630021
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    Darony
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    Wow, that’s very useful info, yap_nas. Thanks big big. $120-$150 a day? that’s even better, now I wanna go too, I’m fast hehe..

    [i]Originally posted by yap_nass[/i]
    I’d definitely check the credibility of the sponsor first. Is it a Cambodian person or someone of other descent? Note that I’ve heard stories of a number of Cambodian-Australian going to Cambodia and boasts about owning farm etc. when in fact they’re merely agents for the farm owners, i.e. they find workers for the owner, drive the workers to the place and charge them for transportation. Some of them take a small cut from the workers even though they have already been paid by the farm owner, i.e. double dipping. Not to say that sponsors of other descents are unlikely to abuse the situation, there are stories of that too.

    Ask the sponsor about the process. What visa they’re going to sponsor you on? Where the farm is located? Try to find out as much as you can about the sponsor and the work. It’s not that simple to get a working visa in Australia. Here’s a link to the visa that your friend might be sponsored on http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/la/

    And I don’t think the sponsor is allow to keep your friend’s passport. Though I can understand why they might want to; there have been cases of people coming here and overstaying their welcome,i.e. run away and stay illegally. The sponsor gets in the government’s black book in such case, hence making it difficult for them to sponsor in future.

    I’m not familiar with the pay but it’s possible to make as much as $100 a day picking fruits and vegetable. Many farmers pay their pickers by the buckets or bins that they pick. For the packers are paid by the number of packets they can pack in a day. I have friends that pack strawberries and can make as much as $120-$150 a day..but they have fast hands. I’ve only picked snow peas, but that was many years ago and made less than $50 a day.

    Hope that helps.

    [Message last modified 06-08-2011 12:40pm by Darony]

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    #1630022
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    Darony
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    Have u seen the way khmer girls dress in srok khmer? I meant farm girls n most girls..they bury themselves from head to toes with many layer of clothes n manage to stay porcelene white when I always get sunburn. I’m sure they’ll do fine under the Australian sun, I could be wrong though, coz I’ve never been there :p…thanks FYI, Pissey, I’ll make sure I convey the message to them :)

    [i]Originally posted by Pis3y[/i]
    ^yep that pretty much sums it all up… However I thought workers were paid by the hours!!
    Picking fruits as leisure u pay them by kg or buckets I think…

    Oh n it’s worth mentioning to ur friends, Darony, Australian sun is super harsh…. [b]So in the long run it might cost ur friends more in skin care repairing the sun damage hehehe :D[/b]

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630023
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    Oh give him a break, will ya! lol

    [i]Originally posted by Pis3y[/i]
    Melbourne and Adelaide!!!
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    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    i will email my brother in-law to find out for you. They live in Melburne and Adelate.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630025
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    I feel it’s my duty to edumacate ppl about these things :P

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Oh give him a break, will ya! lol
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Pis3y[/i]
    Melbourne and Adelaide!!!
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    [i]Originally posted by SeaXonce[/i]
    i will email my brother in-law to find out for you. They live in Melburne and Adelate.

    [/quote]

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    wasn’t Khai Proset used to be piset pealika hubby? someone from ausi said he is the big boss over there…like god father type.

    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    It’s not that too good….it’s not like working there is heaven or sth, they want cheap labor and we r willing to work cheap for them…., ppl have done that b4, one of our famous movie sar, Khai Proset, has done it n still staying there.
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    [i]Originally posted by agent0o5[/i]
    If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t. Follow that simple rule in life & you won’t get screwed by cons, liars, thieves, or just evil bastards out there.

    [/quote]

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    kekek :D i was told that the “spirit” maybe willing but the “body” is weak!

    Originally posted by Darony
    Wow, that’s very useful info, yap_nas. Thanks big big. $120-$150 a day? that’s even better, now I wanna go too, I’m fast hehe..

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    I can see someone’s been reading the Bible, good job :D

    [i]Originally posted by sreypouv[/i]
    kekek :D i was told that the “spirit” maybe willing but the “body” is weak!

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    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    Wow, that’s very useful info, yap_nas. Thanks big big. $120-$150 a day? that’s even better, now I wanna go too, I’m fast hehe..

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
    #1630029
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    yes, that’s him. I donno about him now, but he went there to pick fruits at the beginning.

    [i]Originally posted by Panh04[/i]
    wasn’t Khai Proset used to be piset pealika hubby? someone from ausi said he is the big boss over there…like god father type.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Darony[/i]
    It’s not that too good….it’s not like working there is heaven or sth, they want cheap labor and we r willing to work cheap for them…., ppl have done that b4, one of our famous movie sar, Khai Proset, has done it n still staying there.

    Let the Refining and Improving of your own life keep you so busy that you have little time to criticize others
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