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  • #1443284
    Avatar of Mz_Amity
    Mz_Amity
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    interesting video

    #1443285
    Avatar of batmanimmortal
    batmanimmortal
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    hmmmm i think the world need to stop thinking about sex so much

    i think its an abomination that such trades are taking place in this world.

    *sigh*

    #1443286
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    asianboy316
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    everything that my grandma n my mother tell me about us khmer is wrong, the more i know n learned about khmer the more i dont want to be one, i kinda wish that im not full but half thai or something so i can say im not khmer, is this wat define who(khmer) we are weir parent sale their kids it sad that this type of thing go on in cambodia

    #1443287
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    See I’ve said something about this topic before.. it makes me sick to the stomach.. and see.. on there the lady said the nation was poor before and they didn’t sell the children.. so why now? And the thing about the French guy.. OMG!!!! I literally want to go down there myself and slap the damn judge in the face!! You know his judgement was totally bought! BASTARD!

    #1443288
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    I3ig_Machine
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    I kinda feel you. I think Asians in general are whacked up in different aspects. I don’t think each Asian nationalities can stand on their own and look good, but have to stand together. That’s why it’s easy to call us Asians. You’d be dammned to categorize Mexico, Canada, and US together. I say I’m Khmer, and that’s it. Thai ppl aren’t better off. Ya expect them to be better off since they didn’t have war. Chinese guys are geeks and their women run off to white guys like flies on trash.

    I do like being mixed becuz I have less pressure and less blame. If full Khmers don’t give a damn, I don’t look bad if I don’t give a damn. Why should I try harder if the real Khmers don’t?? Right now, regardless of the war, Cambodia is looked at as a joke. Why the hell are we hurting each other?

    [i]Originally posted by asianboy316[/i]
    everything that my grandma n my mother tell me about us khmer is wrong, the more i know n learned about khmer the more i dont want to be one, i kinda wish that im not full but half thai or something so i can say im not khmer, is this wat define who(khmer) we are weir parent sale their kids it sad that this type of thing go on in cambodia

    #1443289
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    asianboy316
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    While i live in washington i see both world of khmer the rich n the poor. The rich they like to talk bad about the poor unstead of trying to help each other n the worst thing that they say to me is those people(poor khmer)is not ur kind. The poor all they want to do is to rip each other off. At first i thought how good my life would be growing around khmer but now that i know khmer im happy n lucky that i didnt grow around them. The khmer who didnt grow around khmer, these are the people who want to help khmer people n does see everyone equal cuz they dont care if ur poor or rich in the end these are all my people n im khmer good or bad my main goal in life now is to help the people in srok khmer.

    Originally posted by I3ig_Machine
    I kinda feel you. I think Asians in general are whacked up in different aspects. I don’t think each Asian nationalities can stand on their own and look good, but have to stand together. That’s why it’s easy to call us Asians. You’d be dammned to categorize Mexico, Canada, and US together. I say I’m Khmer, and that’s it. Thai ppl aren’t better off. Ya expect them to be better off since they didn’t have war. Chinese guys are geeks and their women run off to white guys like flies on trash.

    I do like being mixed becuz I have less pressure and less blame. If full Khmers don’t give a damn, I don’t look bad if I don’t give a damn. Why should I try harder if the real Khmers don’t?? Right now, regardless of the war, Cambodia is looked at as a joke. Why the hell are we hurting each other?

    [Message last modified 10-16-2007 10:59am by asianboy316]

    #1443290
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    it is sickening that this exist. but it does.
    Notice they are speaking Vietnamese.

    also check out this map. it is a lucrative business.
    just some sites to share that helps to stop these perverts. Damn them!

    http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/cac/registry.htm

    http://www.transitionscambodia.org/

    [i]Originally posted by Mz_Amity[/i]

    interesting video

    #1443291
    Avatar of cheakrisna
    cheakrisna
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    Sick bastards…What goes around, comes around. Karma exists. They will die by AIDS for doing what they do to these young innocent children!

    #1443292
    Avatar of Cali4Humanity
    Cali4Humanity
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    It looks like the Viets are taken to China and Cambodia. But all other countries transport (Smuggle) them to Thailand. Including from Cambodia.

    If the world community has a soul, it would crush these operations! I know we havnt ever stopped drug smuggling. But this isnt done in the bathrooms of peoples homes .. it’s done right out in the open, at storefonts, with salesmen out front, barking customers down to come on in! Just make sex or protitution of a minor child a capital crime.. with automatic death penalty!!! That would put a huge dent in these sick operations.Film anyone involved including photos of corrupt poloticians and cops who own some of these brothels and any govornment border police who are in on it and post it all on a websisite for the whole world to see and shame them!

    #1443293
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    Microphone909
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    very sad :(

    #1443294
    Avatar of Khmer_Ryder
    Khmer_Ryder
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    a lot of the khmer men from western countries support the sex trade in cambodia

    #1443295
    Avatar of Khmer_Ryder
    Khmer_Ryder
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    i know a guy that told me he had his first threesome (two girls and him) for $20.

    #1443296
    Avatar of I3ig_Machine
    I3ig_Machine
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    That’s why it’s happening. It simply wouldn’t happen if Khmer society were really opposed to it. Even though we all sit around here talking about bad it is, more often than not, Khmer guys laugh about it. You see their smirks when they talk about going there. Khmer women forgive and let it go as well. They know what their men are doing over there.

    [i]Originally posted by Khmer_Ryder[/i]
    a lot of the khmer men from western countries support the sex trade in cambodia

    #1443297
    Avatar of khemara15
    khemara15
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    Human traf.ficking and underage prostitution (of girls AND boys ) thrive in lawless Cambodia because they are extremely lucrative and because they are protected and/or operated by powerful Cambodian officials and Mafia-like interests.

    It also thrives because both the supply and the demand are very healthy.

    On the supply side, the widening gap between the rich and the poor ensures that there is a growing supply of “fresh meat” because of both poverty and envy.

    In the past, poverty was the main reason why Cambodian parents or uncles/aunts resort to selling their children/nieces into prostitution.

    Nowadays, poverty is only one factor. In what is now an extremely materialistic society, more and more Cambodian parents do it in order to “keep up with the Joneses”.

    On the demand side, the level of corruption ensures that local well-heeled men (and well-heeled women who no longer need to travel to Thailand to be “serviced” and have their pick of more and more local male entertainers from famous singers like Soch Mach to the gyrators we see in all DVDs) can demand and afford younger and younger “virgins”.

    The corruption also ensures that foreign pedophiles can buy their way out of trouble, if caught. Locals are almost never prosecuted, unless a few poor ones are caught raping their young nieces or nephews. The fact that anybody can get an entry visa for $20 on arrival means that any sex tourist or deviant has helped turn Cambodia into one of the top sex destinations into the world.

    For sex slavery to ease, both the supply and the demand must be reduced.

    They will not go down any time soon in Cambodia.

    Too many financial interests are at stake.

    #1443298
    Avatar of khemara15
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    By being so outspoken, Cambodia’s former Minister of Women’s Affairs Khmer-American Mu Sochua (now Deputy Secretary-General of the Sam Rainsy Party) was resented by many Khmer men (including Hun Sen) but admired by many Khmer women inside and outside Cambodia.

    http://khmer.cc/community/t.c?b=13&t=5937

    #1443299
    Avatar of Box20
    Box20
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    Khemara15, what can we, KCers, do to help to change policies over there?

    #1443300
    Avatar of khemara15
    khemara15
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    [i]Originally posted by Box20[/i]
    Khemara15, what can we, KCers, do to help to change policies over there?

    At a minimum, we can keep the issue at the forefront of everybody’s mind so that the US government continues to monitor the situation in Cambodia and does not turn a blind eye.

    The closure of the notorious Svay Pak (aka km11) as depicted in the video link came as a result of international pressure.

    The underage sex trade has merely gone underground, not disappeared.

    We can only influence policies indirectly.

    The Cambodian government has a lot of contempt for overseas Khmers who criticize their policies or them.

    The Cambodian government will not listen to us but will at least make an effort to clamp down on the most outrageous acts of pedophilia and other things, as a result of pressure from various governments.

    How do we keep the issue at the forefront of people’s minds?

    (1) by doing what we are doing right now: having meaningful discussions about the issue.

    (2) by not being ashamed to raise the issue in public forums, at college or wherever, i.e. by not worrying that we are giving Cambodia a bad name, by publicizing a violation of human rights that brings shame to Cambodia and all of us. By keeping quiet for fear of bringing shame to Cambodia and Khmers, we are not helping. It is tantamount to protecting incestuous behavior or all kinds of abuse (e.g.. domestic violence) for fear of bringing shame to the family.

    The more people know the truth about Cambodia, i.e. how bad Cambodia is, the better.

    The leaders may start thinking twice about going too far and more and more pedophiles and sex tourists may start thinking twice about coming to Cambodia.

    The relevant international authorities may think twice about their “softly, softly” approach in Cambodia for fear of upsetting the Cambodian government.

    #1443301
    Avatar of Box20
    Box20
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    Well said, I will do my best among my circle of influence.
    Thanks for your input Khemara.

    #1443302
    Avatar of Khmer_Ryder
    Khmer_Ryder
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    i finally watched the youtube clip and it disgusted me. especially that cambodian minister. why so many cambodian politicians sound so alike? they just open their mouths and blab garbage, are these guys even educated? the only message they seem to convey is that the problem is not theirs, it’s impossible to fix, lets just leave it as is, etc.

    [Message last modified 10-17-2007 12:41am by Khmer_Ryder]

    #1443303
    Avatar of mystic
    mystic
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    Thank you!!!!

    [i]Originally posted by khemara15[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Box20[/i]
    Khemara15, what can we, KCers, do to help to change policies over there?

    At a minimum, we can keep the issue at the forefront of everybody’s mind so that the US government continues to monitor the situation in Cambodia and does not turn a blind eye.

    The closure of the notorious Svay Pak (aka km11) as depicted in the video link came as a result of international pressure.

    The underage sex trade has merely gone underground, not disappeared.

    We can only influence policies indirectly.

    The Cambodian government has a lot of contempt for overseas Khmers who criticize their policies or them.

    The Cambodian government will not listen to us but will at least make an effort to clamp down on the most outrageous acts of pedophilia and other things, as a result of pressure from various governments.

    How do we keep the issue at the forefront of people’s minds?

    (1) by doing what we are doing right now: having meaningful discussions about the issue.

    (2) by not being ashamed to raise the issue in public forums, at college or wherever, i.e. by not worrying that we are giving Cambodia a bad name, by publicizing a violation of human rights that brings shame to Cambodia and all of us. By keeping quiet for fear of bringing shame to Cambodia and Khmers, we are not helping. It is tantamount to protecting incestuous behavior or all kinds of abuse (e.g.. domestic violence) for fear of bringing shame to the family.

    The more people know the truth about Cambodia, i.e. how bad Cambodia is, the better.

    The leaders may start thinking twice about going too far and more and more pedophiles and sex tourists may start thinking twice about coming to Cambodia.

    The relevant international authorities may think twice about their “softly, softly” approach in Cambodia for fear of upsetting the Cambodian government.

    [/quote]

    #1443304
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    khemara15
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    You are welcome, Box20 and Mystic.

    #1443305
    Avatar of khemara15
    khemara15
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    Wednesday, October 17, 2007

    Corrupt law enforcement, sex networks provide cover for pedophiles in Asia

    http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2007/10/corrupt-law-enforcement-sex-networks.html

    #1443306
    Avatar of Box20
    Box20
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    This thread needs to be sticky.
    It’s educational.

    #1443307
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    khemara15
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    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/18/asia/AS-GEN-Cambodia-Russia-Sex-Crime.php

    Russian businessman arrested for alleged child sex abuse in Cambodia
    Alexander Trofimov, the chairman of an investment company, was arrested Wednesday at Cambodia’s coastal city of Sihanoukville, said police Maj. Gen. Bit Kimhong, director of the Interior Ministry’s antihuman trafficking department.

    Trofimov allegedly had sex with five girls in 2005 and another one this year, Bit Kimhong said, adding that the girls were between 12 and 18 years old.

    In September last year, Trofimov’s company received permission from the Cambodian government to develop an island off Sihanoukville into a tourist resort with an initial investment of up to US$300 million (€211 million).
    The island — Koh Puos or Snake Island — is located about 800 meters (a half-mile) off a popular beach site in Sihanoukville, about 185 kilometers (115 miles) southwest of Phnom Penh.

    If the Russian had sex with five girls in 2005, why wait until now to arrest him? Is that because he has refused to pay the amount asked for?

    #1443308
    Avatar of cheakrisna
    cheakrisna
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    It is a shame and I’m sure it makes everyone sick and mad when hearing this continuously happening in Cambodia. Sex trading has been going on for years. It’s not a new news. It is among main issues we are facing such as poverty, corruption, and democracy. But, is there a hope for resolving or reducing the issue? are there people working on it or is it being ignored to get worse?

    Khemara15 has abundantly enlightened us with the facts of the problem. He is right. It is very important to know the factual problem and its root cause. From there, we can analyze it and find solutions.

    Optimistically speaking, the governement is working in close relation with NGOs in combatting this sex traff.i.c.k.ing. It is a good idea to bring it up and let it be heard/known to the international communities to get their attentions. This way surely puts pressues on our Government to prevent and do something about it. Combatting human traff.i.c.k.ing costs the government close to nothing. They have interest in threatening NGOs working on freedom of expression or corruption, but not on human traff.i.c.k.ing. Optimistically, it is a good sign to improve on this issue. In 2004, Cambodia was at Tier 3, but now we are at Tier 2 (classified by the US State Department based on their legal systems and government measures to combat human traff.i.c.k.ing). Comparing before and now in regards to the issue, there is an improvement.

    There is an old saying ‘Help yourself, and God will help you’. I usually say ‘help yourself, and others will help you.’ Mainly, we’ve gotta help yourself. It’s good to not fear of bringing shame to Cambodia in order to have others know and help us. But imo, it’s only temporary and usually for emergency. We cannot depend on international communities and NGOs eternally.

    The solutions to the problem, imo, are 1) poverty reduction, 2) improvement of khmer morale, 3) effectiveness of law enforcement. All are linked if we want to change our image. Poverty is the main cause (1) but illiteracy or lack of information are also the causes (2). This is why we’re seeing our morale is weakening. The issue becomes harder to combat when it is linked to the issue like corruption (3). If we have enough commitment to improve ourselve, we don’t need international attentions. But, it’s not the case now. That’s why letting the world put pressure on our government is probably the best choice, so that our government can be more committed to combat the human traff.i.c.k.ing. But, mainly WE, government and people, must be committed to help ourselves.

    Just my 2cents.

    [Message last modified 10-18-2007 12:58pm by cheakrisna]

    #1443309
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    Box20
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    This is KC most educational thread EVER!

    Please sticky….

    #1443310
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    I hear a director of a big NGO in Cambodia takes his male interns to whorehouses…

    #1443311
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    khemara15
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    [i]Originally posted by narithe5[/i]
    I hear a director of a big NGO in Cambodia takes his male interns to whorehouses…

    Hi narithe5,

    Is this director a Cambodian or a Westerner?

    Are the interns Cambodians or foreigners?

    #1443312
    Avatar of khemara15
    khemara15
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    Hi Krisna,

    Your idea of helping oneself is consistent with what I wrote in the bottom half of my HP (read italics below)

    IMO, the challenge is to change parents’ and guardians’ attitude toward their children and this has little to do with educational level.

    Many poor people (perhaps assumed by you to have a low educational level and therefore a low sense of morality) may be the most prone to selling their children to pay for medical expenses and, increasingly, “to keep up with the Jones” but the wealthiest people (from the very, very top down) also “sell” their children to forge interfamily political and business alliances.

    The idea that children are their parents’ property to trade and sell at will, that they owe their lives to parents and that they should repay that gratitude by agreeing to obey their parents in all matters contributes to human traf.f.icking and prostitution in Cambodia.

    Even outside Cambodia, some (many?) Khmer parents don’t think there is anything wrong with convincing (forcing) their sons and daughters into arranged marriages for various (often monetary) reasons.

    I am not saying that arranged marriages are bad and to be avoided and that love relationships are most successful.

    I am only saying that far, far too many Cambodian parents (most, if not all in Cambodia) cannot fathom the idea that their children did not ask to be born and that, when brought into this world, they are also human beings with rights that need to be protected and that selling them into the sex trade is participating in human traf.f.icking.

    If these parents are too poor, what are they supposed to do, you may ask.

    One alternative is to accept whatever job is available, however lowly-paid it is. Although there is massive unemployment in Cambodia, this alternative is still available. However, many people resort to selling their children into prostitution because the price and the subsequent earnings are quite high and, despite the stories of violence and human degradation at the bottom end of the sex trade, even servicing ten customers a day is not as physically demanding as working in a garment factory or in the paddy fields
    and pays much, much better if we are talking about the middle or high end of
    prostitution.

    Another alternative is my extremely idealistic position: starve, die with dignity. As some people commented to me “it’s easy for you to say when you don’t know what it’s like to starve”. Touche.

    How to change Cambodian people’s attitude toward their children? IMO, working hand-in-hand with children’s rights NGOs, the government could educate the population about the idea that, while filial gratitude is part and parcel of our culture, selling one’s own and other people’s children, especially for profit to acquire the trappings of materialism, is considered to be very Bap according to Buddhism.

    Simultaneously, the government could introduce legislation to make the selling of children and all people a serious criminal offence.

    Will this be done?

    I doubt it very much.

    Why not? Since when has the government cared about morality, when the leaders themselves are the most immoral creatures who profit financially from human traf.f.icking?

    Bottom half of my HP

    The contrast with the rich relatives taught me so much about life, poverty and dignity that I then remembered all of my late parents’ Ob Roum=upbringing how important education is, how money, wealth, power, status can disappear (they told all their children before 1975 to encourage all of us to study hard and sure enough, everything disappeared on April 17, 1975) but that, no matter how rich or how poor one is, one thing that cannot be taken away from you is your dignity.

    I took it as meaning that if I have to starve because of poverty, so be it but I will never sell myself, my soul and my ideals to anyone.

    Sorry about this digression and for this rather personal story.

    Maybe it’s not a digression, after all. Maybe there is a hidden message about dignity, helping oneself, not asking for money and using the money wisely if one is given a little, not keeping up with the Joneses. Maybe there is a hidden message for all Khmers: we must regain our national dignity and do everything possible to help ourselves and not rely on hand-outs. And if our best is not enough and we starve, then death is a deliverance.

    #1443313
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    [i]Originally posted by khemara15[/i]

    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/18/asia/AS-GEN-Cambodia-Russia-Sex-Crime.php

    If the Russian had sex with five girls in 2005, why wait until now to arrest him? Is that because he has refused to pay the amount asked for?

    A foreign long-time resident of Cambodia commented:

    “all the world’s scum have converged on Cambodia to do business with the local scum. This is only one of the many, many consequences”.

    I could not have said it better.

    There is a French saying qui se ressemblent, s’assemblent”

    Birds of the same feather flock together.

    Pedophiles like to be with other pedophiles and need pedophile tra.f.f.ickers to supply and protect them.

    #1443314
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    [i]Originally posted by Khmer_Ryder[/i]
    a lot of the khmer men from western countries support the sex trade in cambodia

    Oh yeah, and they are proud of it. You will have a neighbor or a friend of the family that will brag about how many young girls they had sex with in srok khmer. They speak as if it makes them look so much more important that they did that — as if they’ve done the world some good — BASTARDS.

    I’m sorry, but there is a huge lack of moral values and the sense of right and wrong. YOu have grown men/old men who walk around bragging about having sex with young prostitutes and they’re proud of it, or that they paid $50 for a young girl. There has got to be something really wrong with us.

    And the sad part is, it seems like no one speaks against it, which is why I have posted several times in the past about this situation so that we are more aware and we can stand up against such things. We can at least start to challenge those that encourage this kind of behavior in sork khmer. We cannot allow such immoral and abusive behaviors to continue this way with the men in our community. WE ARE DESTROYING OUR OWN COUNTRY.

    I helped translate a documentary about srok khmer’s prostitution problems. It was so hard to get through hearing all the participants’ stories. I broke down several times just hearing the hell they went through, how they were forced into prositution at such young ages, forever losing their innocence and dignity. And then I turn around at times and hear my own parents’ male friends talking about how they had such a great time there and how they paid just a few dollars for young girls. :-( And when I tell them they’ve just committed the biggest sin in our own country, they laugh and say it’s just human nature, or “man’s nature” is more of what I hear. I have no respect for these men.

    [Message last modified 10-18-2007 07:51pm by souljourner]

    #1443315
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    I feel your pain. It is very sad that our people who already suffer so much already because of our history, because of poverty’s cruelty, and then we have these sickos taken advantage of them because it satifies their sexual needs.

    there will more who will be caught. You just wait. and when it happens, they will regret it. It brings shame to their friends, family, community and country. Shame!

    thanks for sharing your experience.

    [i]Originally posted by souljourner[/i]
    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by Khmer_Ryder[/i]
    a lot of the khmer men from western countries support the sex trade in cambodia

    And the sad part is, it seems like no one speaks against it, which is why I have posted several times in the past about this situation so that we are more aware and we can stand up against such things. We can at least start to challenge those that encourage this kind of behavior in sork khmer. We cannot allow such immoral and abusive behaviors to continue this way with the men in our community. WE ARE DESTROYING OUR OWN COUNTRY.

    I helped translate a documentary about srok khmer’s prostitution problems. It was so hard to get through hearing all the participants’ stories. I broke down several times just hearing the hell they went through, how they were forced into prositution at such young ages, forever losing their innocence and dignity. And then I turn around at times and hear my own parents’ male friends talking about how they had such a great time there and how they paid just a few dollars for young girls. :-( And when I tell them they’ve just committed the biggest sin in our own country, they laugh and say it’s just human nature, or “man’s nature” is more of what I hear. I have no respect for these men.

    [Message last modified 10-18-2007 07:51pm by souljourner][/quote]

    #1443316
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    What is even sadder is that men in srok khmer believe that if they have aids, to cure it, they must have sex with a virgin/young girl. So the snatching and raping of young girls in unexpected areas have gone sky high.

    There have been cases in the countrysides where young girls were raped and then brutally murdered (and in one case, even decapitated) — as if the heinousness of the latter crime would hide the first.

    #1443317
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    Anonymous

    My graduate thesis was about US policies on this issue. Clinton passed a major law in 2000 puttin over 620mill into prevention and intervention to be spent from 2000-2010. Most the $ went to helpin victims after the fact, so Bush allocated an additional 200mill to amp up efforts in investigations and foreign cooperation. Till now this policy has been more successful with intervention than prevention cause our home countries don’t cooperate.

    #1443318
    Avatar of Cali4Humanity
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    If the girls are fortunate enough to get busted out of it, they are shunned as though its their fault, by family and their villages. Even though I read most girls send alot of $$ to their family, if they get past the brothels to the “Bar girls” scene.

    I thought this might be the area I might be able to do the most good there. Since I’ve got degrees and decades exp. working in both sexual abuse and residential treatment programs and treatment model design. So I thought since they can’t go home.. I’d set up residential recovery homes, with treatment, and job training, to re-enter society with half a chance of functioning. But I’d be way handicapped because of the lack of cultural understanding and language barrier. And I imagine others are doing it by now.
    Another part of me wants out of the treatment field and wants to deal with the crossboarder busting of these networks. In whatever capacity.
    No matter what. It will take a multi-faceted approach to get this reduced to a minimum.
    I imagine you all know the gov. helps and profits from the sex trade and trafficing. From boarder crossing to holding pens in rout to family of gov. officials owning brothels. In fact I’ve read UN reports that when the NGOs etc put too much pressure on the Gov. so they have to act… that they then go but the brothels that compete with their uncles brothel! Which the no doubt get alot of $$ from.

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