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  • #335321
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    I am still reading available documents on ASEAN, NATO and the Europe Union.

    From the light reading, I can see a few reasons that prevent ASEAN to work as it wanted in its purposes.

    ASEAN has a long way to still to get there.

    I don’t pretend to be an expert in constitutional or organizational laws. I only use my rusty wague knowledge in the matters.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    Winning strategy?

    As I am reading ASEAN documents, I start to understand why God had me going to French and American schools (He said He led me the way to America).

    He apparently wanted me to understand what is weak in Asian environment from American/ French perspectives. I laughed at quite a few Cambodian and Asian attempts to do things laughable by western mind.

    For me personally, it does not matter what cultures or nations you are from. What matters is whether your attempt/ approach is winning. Approach is sometime called strategy (as in chess or IT).

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    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I am still reading ASEAN documents. What I have read so far is disappointing. The organization is weak for its purposes.

    While reading the documents, I start to understand why decades ago when I was a college freshman in Cambodia, I found constitutional laws and international public laws extremely interesting then. ASEAN could use more expertise in these fields to shape up its purposes.

    I also start to understand why I ended up working in non-profit organizations in my early years resettling in the US. I came across quite a bit of issues of an “association” (ASEAN is an association.

    It starts to make sense now what and why I did then. The Top Neak Mean/ God planned my trip this way, as He needs me to help solve His peace and prosperity intervention.

    [/quote]

    #335330
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    Without court to interpret agreements and laws, and without forces to enforce them, ASEAN is deemed to fail for its stated purposes.

    I guess many scholars would see the same things as I do. The problem may be the lack of brilliant leadership or Dharma leadership. This is where Neak Mean Bonns need to put hands on.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    I am still reading available documents on ASEAN, NATO and the Europe Union.

    From the light reading, I can see a few reasons that prevent ASEAN to work as it wanted in its purposes.

    ASEAN has a long way to still to get there.

    I don’t pretend to be an expert in constitutional or organizational laws. I only use my rusty wague knowledge in the matters.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    Winning strategy?

    As I am reading ASEAN documents, I start to understand why God had me going to French and American schools (He said He led me the way to America).

    He apparently wanted me to understand what is weak in Asian environment from American/ French perspectives. I laughed at quite a few Cambodian and Asian attempts to do things laughable by western mind.

    For me personally, it does not matter what cultures or nations you are from. What matters is whether your attempt/ approach is winning. Approach is sometime called strategy (as in chess or IT).

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I am still reading ASEAN documents. What I have read so far is disappointing. The organization is weak for its purposes.

    While reading the documents, I start to understand why decades ago when I was a college freshman in Cambodia, I found constitutional laws and international public laws extremely interesting then. ASEAN could use more expertise in these fields to shape up its purposes.

    I also start to understand why I ended up working in non-profit organizations in my early years resettling in the US. I came across quite a bit of issues of an “association” (ASEAN is an association.

    It starts to make sense now what and why I did then. The Top Neak Mean/ God planned my trip this way, as He needs me to help solve His peace and prosperity intervention.

    [/quote]
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    #335338
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    For its purposes, presently, ASEAN is not that far more than a Hide and Seek kid game.

    I read some times ago that it is the Asian way, meaning a way different from Europen’s or American’s, etc.

    How good is the Asian way if it does not take Asians to peace and prosperity as wanted?

    **

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    Without court to interpret agreements and laws, and without forces to enforce them, ASEAN is deemed to fail for its stated purposes.

    I guess many scholars would see the same things as I do. The problem may be the lack of brilliant leadership or Dharma leadership. This is where Neak Mean Bonns need to put hands on.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    I am still reading available documents on ASEAN, NATO and the Europe Union.

    From the light reading, I can see a few reasons that prevent ASEAN to work as it wanted in its purposes.

    ASEAN has a long way to still to get there.

    I don’t pretend to be an expert in constitutional or organizational laws. I only use my rusty wague knowledge in the matters.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    Winning strategy?

    As I am reading ASEAN documents, I start to understand why God had me going to French and American schools (He said He led me the way to America).

    He apparently wanted me to understand what is weak in Asian environment from American/ French perspectives. I laughed at quite a few Cambodian and Asian attempts to do things laughable by western mind.

    For me personally, it does not matter what cultures or nations you are from. What matters is whether your attempt/ approach is winning. Approach is sometime called strategy (as in chess or IT).

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I am still reading ASEAN documents. What I have read so far is disappointing. The organization is weak for its purposes.

    While reading the documents, I start to understand why decades ago when I was a college freshman in Cambodia, I found constitutional laws and international public laws extremely interesting then. ASEAN could use more expertise in these fields to shape up its purposes.

    I also start to understand why I ended up working in non-profit organizations in my early years resettling in the US. I came across quite a bit of issues of an “association” (ASEAN is an association.

    It starts to make sense now what and why I did then. The Top Neak Mean/ God planned my trip this way, as He needs me to help solve His peace and prosperity intervention.

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    #335348
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    veayoo
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    King of devadas, humans and hells:

    In Khmer culture, Preah In Sakkatevareach is said to be King of all devadas and humans.

    My personal experience into His worlds showed that He also rules over hells.

    #335363
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    veayoo
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    Those who have followed my writing in KC know that I was of sciences, technologies and professional background.

    Wit these kinds of background, why do I spend my time writing up all these “unproven” matters?

    I accept that I do not try to prove the “unscientific” matters. I do not have time or resources to do so.

    I write these weird stuffs up mainly to documents my personal encounters hoping that they would help people and the world to get better understanding of who we are, where we are at and whom we are with, etc. Hopefully these stuffs would help a few who would further their research in the matters.

    Personally, this is a Dharma Tean with which I voluntary share info I have encountered personally. This is a voluntary and free of charge sharing of genuine info that perhaps not available easily anywhere else :)

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    King of devadas, humans and hells:

    In Khmer culture, Preah In Sakkatevareach is said to be King of all devadas and humans.

    My personal experience into His worlds showed that He also rules over hells.

    #335372
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    veayoo
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    Hells are mentioned in every religion I know. Souls with bad deeds/ merits are said to go to suffer in hells.

    With hells, there is the King of Death/ Yamareach or Yama. There is also a soul processing center in which souls are taken to after death. This processing center determines where a soul needs to go next.

    **

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    Those who have followed my writing in KC know that I was of sciences, technologies and professional background.

    Wit these kinds of background, why do I spend my time writing up all these “unproven” matters?

    I accept that I do not try to prove the “unscientific” matters. I do not have time or resources to do so.

    I write these weird stuffs up mainly to documents my personal encounters hoping that they would help people and the world to get better understanding of who we are, where we are at and whom we are with, etc. Hopefully these stuffs would help a few who would further their research in the matters.

    Personally, this is a Dharma Tean with which I voluntary share info I have encountered personally. This is a voluntary and free of charge sharing of genuine info that perhaps not available easily anywhere else :)

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    King of devadas, humans and hells:

    In Khmer culture, Preah In Sakkatevareach is said to be King of all devadas and humans.

    My personal experience into His worlds showed that He also rules over hells.

    [/quote]

    #335381
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    veayoo
    Participant

    Prior to the personal encounters, I saw on American TVs and cable TVs sessions with “psychic” people who could interact with died people’s souls. Those psychic people could relate messages from souls to family who is still alive.

    Along with the messages, there were true milestone experiences that the psychic could tell the family. There were experiences such as when the souls were alive, this or that happened… (to the family knowledge).

    The psychic people did not personally know the story before the session.

    According to the above, souls exist after death. Communications with them are possible.

    [Message last modified 05-21-2011 08:29pm by veayoo]

    #335391
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    veayoo
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    I got to learn about soul processing center when I inquired about what a Boramey was.

    I was explained that after death, a soul is supposed to go through a process with which the soul’s memory gets washed out. A soul is supposed to drink a liquid so that all knowledge and life experience get washed out. A soul is not supposed to carry knowledge and experience from past life or lives.

    For a few powerful souls though, the processing center asked whether they like to drink the liquid and move on to next steps(heavens, earth or hells, or to remain powerful souls called Borameys.

    Borameys are supposed to help/ serve other beings like God or humans.

    #335401
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    What is moha, Moha is not understanding, not knowing, delusion.

    And what is that what is not understood, not known, not seen in delusion.

    Not knowing and understanding the four noble truth, not knowing and understanding the dependent co-arsing of all phenomena, not understanding anccia (impermanence), anatta (not personal of of things), dukkha (Suffering)

    Not knowing, understanding this one gives rise to a soul to a permanent I and out of this grasping arises and out of this grasping all evil in our world arises.

    That is why it is called Moha, and even if one changes the name into maha, it just stays moha.

    Don’t you like to make some serious studies in Buddhism? Actually it is for your own welfare. Give it a chance.

    As moha is the root of greed and anger, birth and death and all kind of mental suffering.

    _()_

    #335410
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    veayoo
    Participant

    Stepping into Boramey world, I originally met a very nice and kind 3,200 years old “professor assistant”. He went around with me days and weeks. As always, I learned things along from him. He taught me a lot of things about Borameys and the invisible world.

    Among my peers, I considered myself a top educated guy. After meeting him and several Borameys, I knew that what I know is only a fraction of their knowledge. Borameys do die like us, human. After their death, they were allowed to keep their knowledge which was not gotten washed away. The constantly accumulated knowledge for a 3,200 years old being is unimaginable for us, human.

    **

    One of the Borameys I consider as a top “professor” is my 7,100 years old grandpa, Lokta Kong Mai. He was my grandpa several lives ago. He was referred by his own peers as Lokta Eysey.

    Lokta Kong Mai conversed with me in normal human Khmer language. There was nothing he said that I did not understand literally. What he said though turned out to have much more sense, more truth, that I could grasp right away. After a few times of this kind of realization with him, I knew that there is good distance between his knowledge and mine. I am just tardy little kid in the world of Lokta Eysey.

    Beside showing his very advanced knowledge of things and the truth (far more than I know as an educated person), he has showed me his powers to get things done in human world as well as in the invisible world including hells and soul processing center.

    **

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I got to learn about soul processing center when I inquired about what a Boramey was.

    I was explained that after death, a soul is supposed to go through a process with which the soul’s memory gets washed out. A soul is supposed to drink a liquid so that all knowledge and life experience get washed out. A soul is not supposed to carry knowledge and experience from past life or lives.

    For a few powerful souls though, the processing center asked whether they like to drink the liquid and move on to next steps(heavens, earth or hells, or to remain powerful souls called Borameys.

    Borameys are supposed to help/ serve other beings like God or humans.

    #335419
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    One truth was about the Ancient and Oudom Mohanokor (oops, typo error again :) ).

    #335429
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    veayoo
    Participant

    I felt very sick when I was at the top of my IT and real estates investment career (Borameys told me later that they caused the sickness. They wanted me to stop doing what I did and started to do more universal meaningful work).
    Without knowing what God and Borameys had planned for me, like many sick people, I was looking to get back to good health hoping to get back to make a good living again.

    Looking to get healed, I turned to Kru Khmer who is known as Shaman in English. During a Kru Khmer session, I personally experienced talking to died souls for the first time.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    Prior to the personal encounters, I saw on American TVs and cable TVs sessions with “psychic” people who could interact with died people’s souls. Those psychic people could relate messages from souls to family who is still alive.

    Along with the messages, there were true milestone experiences that the psychic could tell the family. There were experiences such as when the souls were alive, this or that happened… (to the family knowledge).

    The psychic people did not personally know the story before the session.

    According to the above, souls exist after death. Communications with them are possible.

    [Message last modified 05-21-2011 08:29pm by veayoo]

    #335439
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    veayoo
    Participant

    The Kru Khmer session took place in a countryside where things such as Kru fees and services or so were inexpensive. Families and neighbors helped out voluntarily.

    My nephew who helped me organizing the session got Khmer live traditional music and a lot of guests. We had an official Kru Khmer and an official one as well. The unofficial one turned to be the best Kru Khmer I have met.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I felt very sick when I was at the top of my IT and real estates investment career (Borameys told me later that they caused the sickness. They wanted me to stop doing what I did and started to do more universal meaningful work).
    Without knowing what God and Borameys had planned for me, like many sick people, I was looking to get back to good health hoping to get back to make a good living again.

    Looking to get healed, I turned to Kru Khmer who is known as Shaman in English. During a Kru Khmer session, I personally experienced talking to died souls for the first time.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    Prior to the personal encounters, I saw on American TVs and cable TVs sessions with “psychic” people who could interact with died people’s souls. Those psychic people could relate messages from souls to family who is still alive.

    Along with the messages, there were true milestone experiences that the psychic could tell the family. There were experiences such as when the souls were alive, this or that happened… (to the family knowledge).

    The psychic people did not personally know the story before the session.

    According to the above, souls exist after death. Communications with them are possible.

    [Message last modified 05-21-2011 08:29pm by veayoo]

    [/quote]

    #335448
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    As a patient, I was told to sit in the middle of the entire stage. I only could see well what were in front and to the sides of me.

    Performing her session, the official Kru Khmer danced and prayed while music was on. At the end of each Khmer traditional music, a voice from behind me kept telling the music team what to play next. After a few such commands, I turned my head looking behind me.

    The music commander smiled at me and said I am your cousin! She told me her name and who her mother is. I remember her then. She was a Kru Khmer I went to see several years earlier. Because we were cousins, I had a chance to ask about how she became a Kru Khmer and knows so much about the matters as well as her personal and Kru Khmer life.

    She told me then that she inherited the Kru Khmer expertise from her dad, my uncle-in-laws. I knew him personally as I used to visit the family when I was in my early teenage years.

    My cousin said one day villagers found her on top of a very tall flag post. She said she cannot climb such a post. What she knew was that she was on the palm of Preah Ang (God) who raised her to the top of the flag post. That was a milestone of her Kru Khmer career.

    Following the session in which she was not the official Kru Khmer, I have found out that she told me the truth about how she got up to the top of the tall flag post. She has helped me to talk to God, Preah Jesus Christ, Buddha Preah Samanak Kodom, Buddha Preah Sea Metrey, and numerous icon Borameys.

    I knew then that her dad was a traditional healer and nothing more. With my cousin, I got to know and experience souls and Borameys matters a lot more…

    #335457
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    Toward the end of the Kru Khmer healing session, I asked whether I could talk to my deceased mom and dad. These are souls that I have no need for any scientific or external proof. I know who my mom and my dad were. No scientific proof is needed for me to tell whether I would talk to the real one or not.

    The answer was yes and why not.

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I felt very sick when I was at the top of my IT and real estates investment career (Borameys told me later that they caused the sickness. They wanted me to stop doing what I did and started to do more universal meaningful work).
    Without knowing what God and Borameys had planned for me, like many sick people, I was looking to get back to good health hoping to get back to make a good living again.

    Looking to get healed, I turned to Kru Khmer who is known as Shaman in English. During a Kru Khmer session, I personally experienced talking to died souls for the first time.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    Prior to the personal encounters, I saw on American TVs and cable TVs sessions with “psychic” people who could interact with died people’s souls. Those psychic people could relate messages from souls to family who is still alive.

    Along with the messages, there were true milestone experiences that the psychic could tell the family. There were experiences such as when the souls were alive, this or that happened… (to the family knowledge).

    The psychic people did not personally know the story before the session.

    According to the above, souls exist after death. Communications with them are possible.

    [Message last modified 05-21-2011 08:29pm by veayoo]

    [/quote]

    #335467
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    Before getting into sessions to talk to my mom and dad, we took a break. I told the official Kru Khmer that it is my turn to do something.

    I needed to take care of business which basically allowing relatives and guesses to have our good meals while I gave each of them money. I told them the money was for paying for their gas to come to my ceremony. No one expected cash. The cash was a surprise that I invented.

    As an American, I had nothing else better than offering a little cash along with a good meal. The meal and the cash represented my thanks and love to all of them.

    #335477
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    veayoo
    Participant

    In Khmer culture, the meal and cash offered to families and neighbors are classified as Tean/ Dana (give away things/ gift).

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    Before getting into sessions to talk to my mom and dad, we took a break. I told the official Kru Khmer that it is my turn to do something.

    I needed to take care of business which basically allowing relatives and guesses to have our good meals while I gave each of them money. I told them the money was for paying for their gas to come to my ceremony. No one expected cash. The cash was a surprise that I invented.

    As an American, I had nothing else better than offering a little cash along with a good meal. The meal and the cash represented my thanks and love to all of them.

    #335485
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    veayoo
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    In my entire life, I never got so excited as when talking to my deceased mom’s soul. My tear flowed like a river and I could not stop it while I had so many people around!

    Seeing so much emotion going on my part, a musician decided to cut in and relieved the tension.

    #335495
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    veayoo
    Participant

    “Talking to Souls” may look like getting away from the original theme of Neak Mean Bonn and Mohanokor.

    To my own opinion though, soul along with heaven, hell and human matters directly relate to the top Neak Mean Bonn/ God/ Preah In Sakkatevareach affairs.

    The Talking to Souls postings should somehow show at least the making of a human (and tiny) Neak Mean Bonn who, according to Boramey telling, will be helping the top Neak Mean Bonns in implementing their Divine Intervention and the Oudom Mohanokor.

    [Message last modified 05-26-2011 01:39pm by veayoo]

    #335503
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    veayoo
    Participant

    I believe each of us has special bond to our mom. Mine is of no exception.

    While I am the baby in the family, my mom gave birth to 13 children. As the youngest kid, I believe I got the most love and attention. I slept in my mom’s bed till I got to my early teenage years.

    I was the kind of kid who liked to stay around our house, thus around my mom and my siblings. When I was in my third year in elementary school, I started to teach my mom Buddhist Dharma.

    I started to read Khmer then. I could read Khmer fine. For Pali words in Buddhist Dharma, my mom sent me to ask my two eldest brothers who were Buddhist monks when they were in school. I can recall grins in my eldest brothers’ face every time I went to ask them the Pali words I could not say then. They knew that I did the right thing learning Buddhist Dharma and Pali myself while teaching my iliterate mom. In her generation, there was no school for girls. Only boys could become Buddhist monks and studied.

    I could recite basic Dharma practiced at Wat and a few advanced recitals myself then. Most of all, my mom got me into Buddhism in a very early age.

    #335513
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    Besides early Buddhism introduction at home, my mom allowed me to be a Khmeng Wat (temple kid), staying at Wat doing services for the Wat and monks.

    I spent one whole summer staying with a Wat chief-monk. With a bicycle, I carried him to people’s home where he was invited to perform variuos Buddhist ceremonies including Sot Mun (giving good lucks/ good wishes mantra chanting).

    At another summer, I did not have much to do. I then spent my time reading all Buddhist books including the Tripitaka that were available at that Wat. (Borameys said I achieved 84,000 Dharma Khans, same number of Khans as Buddha’s).

    The early Buddhism learning along with intimate Wat, monk acquaintance and Buddhist chanting gave me a lot of good notions for my philosophy all these years. Even if I never became a Buddhist monk, hearing the chantings over and over gave me a lot of Buddhist thought. As much as I know myself, I am a thinker_ a deep one!

    Buddhism, Wat and monks were so familiar to me that I chose to stay at a Wat again when I started attending college the first time and worked part-time. My relatives then had a place for me to stay. I found Buddhist environment more accomodating for myself.

    I also helped teaching my mom several Dharmas and mantras for her meditation. I faced notions such as meditation, enlightenment, nirvana etc very early.

    It is amazing that after all these decades, I am still facing the same issues/ notions such as Buddhism, Dharma, meditation, enlightenment, hells, heavens, etc.

    #335523
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    veayoo
    Participant

    A special bond with my mom was the way I paid gratitude to her. This may have to do with Neak Mean Bonns plan for me, I guess.

    All my elder siblings got jobs/ income and helped my mom back. Cambodians value gratitude toward parents very dearly.

    I, however, said to myself that I will pay the gratitude differently. I chose to go for the best education available first and pay back the gratitude either to my mom directly or her offsprints later.

    #335533
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    can you ask them how angkor wat was built?

    #335542
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    Did you never see somebody able to lift a stone and put it on an other? *smile*
    It was build from the ground to the top, stone by stone and it passes away again day by day. Ohh, why is there so much suffering even we try it with stones?

    #335553
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    veayoo
    Participant

    ——,

    Good question. I’ll see whether it would fit somewhere in our discussion.

    Borameys and I talked about similar things such as Cambodia origin or so at aone time. The conversation was not fruitful for me as I was not able to grasp their historic timelines. For instance, when they told me about 1st century, it did not match century AD/ BC or Buddhism calendar.

    I was not able to grasp the telling. I may need to start the ABC of their history courses first before I could understand their anwers. This will take time and I cannot guarantee any positive result.

    Most of our sessions are taken over by serious Neak Mean Bonn executive stuffs such as the Mohanokor Divine Projects or so. We have passed the conceptual phase of the project. A lot of Neak Mean Bonn works lately.

    [i]Originally posted by ——[/i]
    can you ask them how angkor wat was built?

    #335561
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    veayoo
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    hanzze,

    I appreciate your advices and I’ll keep those in mind.

    I am actively studying Buddhism and Dharma. A few KC friends have evolved to do similar things.

    This does not mean, by any mean, that I know everything. I only know that I have evolved to study beyond Buddhist texts. For instance, I am studying God, soul matters that available Buddhist texts do not really talk about.

    What I write and what we discuss about may not conform to Buddhist texts that you have read. I hope some days you will evolve to find more truth as well. In the mean time, it is good to be humble and respect everyone around. Many Khmers I have met are talkative and have plenty to chat about. They talk or joke about anything and at any time they feel they want to. What I have learned so far is that not everyone is up to reading or chatting about wasteful things.

    God, Borameys or Talking to Souls topics may be considered as an addition to the Tripitaka’s Abhidharma (?). Tripitaka and Buddhist texts I have seen have not discussed these topics.

    I hope this helps.

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    What is moha, Moha is not understanding, not knowing, delusion.

    And what is that what is not understood, not known, not seen in delusion.

    Not knowing and understanding the four noble truth, not knowing and understanding the dependent co-arsing of all phenomena, not understanding anccia (impermanence), anatta (not personal of of things), dukkha (Suffering)

    Not knowing, understanding this one gives rise to a soul to a permanent I and out of this grasping arises and out of this grasping all evil in our world arises.

    That is why it is called Moha, and even if one changes the name into maha, it just stays moha.

    Don’t you like to make some serious studies in Buddhism? Actually it is for your own welfare. Give it a chance.

    As moha is the root of greed and anger, birth and death and all kind of mental suffering.

    _()_

    [Message last modified 05-28-2011 11:38am by veayoo]

    #335616
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    veayoo
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    As a side note, my two eldest brothers taught me by actual demontration of the importance of Prum Vihear Thor (meta = loving kindness, karuna = compassion, muddita = happiness for others, and upekha = fairness). When they were alive, around fifty years ago, they built a public reast area/ Sala Samnak with a public pond. In a remote countryside village, travelers could use it for overnight stay, for shielding themselves again storm or harsh daytime heat. My brothers did not just practice the Prom Vihear Thor inside our family. They actually spread it to strangers such as travelers. They taught me by examples the Prum Vihear Thor which is a Dharma I have carried out all along. The Prum Vihear Thor will be with me forever and also for the Mohanokor Divine Intervention project.

    My brothers’ Sala Samnak was destroyed by the Khmer Rouge.

    Around fifteen years ago, upon advice from a Boramey, I decided to spend my own hard earning money to rebuild the Sala Samnak naming it after the two eldest brothers first names. Of course, families and friends chipped in to help.

    At this recently past Khmer New Year, upon request of the villagers, I decided to throw in a few more thousand dollars to expand the Sala Samnak building. Upon advice of villagers, families and friends, I decided to have my name ( with a prefix Dr.) along with my eldest brothers names as the Sala Samnak’s new name.

    The expansion project continues. We are redoing the pond by redigging it and building a nice fence around.

    Borameys said I was supposed to build Sala Samnak, palaces, resorts, schools and hospitals. I am glad the Sala Samnak is going to be done in a few months. I then would be able to put my mind and resources into other charitable projects…

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    I believe each of us has special bond to our mom. Mine is of no exception.

    While I am the baby in the family, my mom gave birth to 13 children. As the youngest kid, I believe I got the most love and attention. I slept in my mom’s bed till I got to my early teenage years.

    I was the kind of kid who liked to stay around our house, thus around my mom and my siblings. When I was in my third year in elementary school, I started to teach my mom Buddhist Dharma.

    I started to read Khmer then. I could read Khmer fine. For Pali words in Buddhist Dharma, my mom sent me to ask my two eldest brothers who were Buddhist monks when they were in school. I can recall grins in my eldest brothers’ face every time I went to ask them the Pali words I could not say then. They knew that I did the right thing learning Buddhist Dharma and Pali myself while teaching my iliterate mom. In her generation, there was no school for girls. Only boys could become Buddhist monks and studied.

    I could recite basic Dharma practiced at Wat and a few advanced recitals myself then. Most of all, my mom got me into Buddhism in a very early age.

    [Message last modified 05-29-2011 01:31pm by veayoo]

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    Dear friend, the tripataka is all about this issue.

    It is the porpose to lead from moha to maha, redarding the soul and it’s view on it this might hepl:

    From Ignorance as a Requisite

    Staying at Savatthi… [the Blessed One said,] “From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications… From birth as a requisite condition, then aging-&-death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering.”

    When this was said, a certain monk said to the Blessed One: “Which aging & death, lord? And whose is this aging & death?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said. If one were to ask, ‘Which aging & death? And whose is this aging & death?’ and if one were to ask, ‘Is aging & death one thing, and is this the aging & death of someone/something else?’ both of them would have the same meaning, even though their words would differ. When there is the view that the soul is the same as the body, there isn’t the leading of the holy life. And when there is the view that the soul is one thing and the body another, there isn’t the leading of the holy life. Avoiding these two extremes, the Tathagata points out the Dhamma in between: From birth as a requisite condition comes aging & death.”

    “Which birth, lord? And whose is this birth?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth.”

    “Which becoming, lord? And whose is this becoming?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From clinging as a requisite condition comes becoming.”

    “Which clinging, lord? And whose is this clinging?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging.”

    “Which craving, lord? And whose is this craving?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving.”

    “Which feeling, lord? And whose is this feeling?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling.”

    “Which contact, lord? And whose is this contact?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact.”

    “Which are the six sense media, lord, and whose are the six sense media?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media.”

    “Which name-&-form, lord? And whose is this name-&-form?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form.”

    “Which consciousness, lord? And whose is this consciousness?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said… “From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness.”

    “Which fabrications, lord? And whose are the fabrications?”

    “Not a valid question,” the Blessed One said. “If one were to ask, ‘Which are the fabrications, and whose are the fabrications?’ and if one were to say, ‘Fabrications are one thing, and these fabrications are something/someone else’s,’ both of them would have the same meaning, even though their words would differ. When there is the view that the life-principle is the same as the body, there is no leading the holy life. And when there is the view that the life-principle is one thing and the body another, there is no leading the holy life. Avoiding these two extremes, the Tathagata points out the Dhamma in between: From ignorance as requisite condition come fabrications. Now from the remainderless fading & cessation of that very ignorance, every one of these writhings & wrigglings & wigglings — ‘Which aging & death? And whose is this aging & death?’ or ‘Is aging & death one thing, and is this the aging & death of someone/something else?’ or ‘The soul is the same as the body,’ or ‘The soul is one thing and the body another’ — are abandoned, their root destroyed, made like a palmyra stump, deprived of the conditions of development, not destined for future arising.”

    “Avijjapaccaya Sutta: From Ignorance as a Requisite Condition” (SN 12.35), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, 25 July 2010, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.035.than.html./i
    —-

    Regarding the god, you may read the explanation that nobody else than Mara (Ignorance) is the creator of a creator god.

    The Brahma Invitation – Brahma-nimantanika Sutta

    #335582
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    veayoo
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    hanzze,

    “What I write and what we discuss about may not conform to Buddhist texts that you have read. I hope some days you will evolve to find more truth as well. In the mean time, it is good to be humble and respect everyone around.

    Many Khmers I have met are talkative and have plenty to chat about. They talk or joke about anything and at any time they feel they want to. What I have learned so far is that not everyone is up to reading or chatting about wasteful things.”

    It appears to me like you have been looking for fight over concepts, beliefs, Buddhism, etc all along. I told you sincerely that I do not have time for these. Please stop tackonizing me while I try to write a few things. You should be ok taking your fight elsewhere.

    A few things about not to agitate or bother others in in Buddhist Dharma in my earlier posting in this thread:

    Tean definition:

    Rev. Chuon Nat Khmer dictionary defines Tean as derived from Pali and Sanskrit meaning donation or gift, the giving, or something worth giving.

    The dictionary also says that Tean is the number one in the 10 commandments for a king, the Tossa Boramey which is comprised of:

    1. Tean = giving.

    2. Seila = adherence to the 5 Buddhism precepts (Pancha Seila) and the 10 precepts once in a while.

    3. Borichark = spending of royal wealth for the nation interest.

    4. Achava = honesty

    5. Maktavak = gentleness

    6. Tapa = Practicing the 10 Buddhism Seila once in a while.

    7. Akkothanak = not agitating others.

    8. Akvihangsa = not bothering others.

    9. Khantei = perseverance.

    10. Akvirothanak = not abusing over Dharma and laws.

    **

    Number 7 Akkothanak says: do not agitate others.

    Number 8 Akvihangsa says: do not bother others.

    I hope a Buddhist would know these well.

    **

    I would highly appreciate that you will not agitate or bother me while I try to write up a few things. I need the courteous respect as I need a clear mind putting words together with little time.

    Otherwise, consider this as my last reply to your comment in this thread :)

    [Message last modified 05-28-2011 03:49pm by veayoo]

    #335591
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    Well, I thought to help you a little to get a clear mind. Don’t let yourself be disturbed.

    #335601
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    veayoo
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    hanzze,

    Thank you for your nice Buddhist understanding. Quick hello or question would be fine, but no invasion of my Buddhist peace!

    :)

    [i]Originally posted by hanzze[/i]
    Well, I thought to help you a little to get a clear mind. Don’t let yourself be disturbed.

    #335606
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    For waken somebody up to awakening it is sometimes needed to be really disturbed. If one is really in peace, what would him disturb?

    It seems like you are dream very deep. *smile*
    Don’t get disturbed, maybe it is a nice dream.

    [Message last modified 05-29-2011 11:38am by hanzze]

    #335626
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    A few more words about Buddhist Prum Vihear Thor as practiced in my parent family.

    My dad passed away when I was about 5 years old. I had less memory about him than about my mom.

    As I grew up, I heard from the villagers that my dad was a humble Kru Khmer. When cholera killed villagers around and people stayed home, my dad went house to house helping to burry died people.

    My dad did not just care for his own family. He cared (meta, karuna, muttita, upekha) to neighbors and villagers as well, risking his own welfare.

    As a very Buddhist devotee, he was a Buddhist monk before marrying my mom. The Buddhist education he got allowed him to a great education visionary.

    In the countryside, farmers used to keep kids at home helping with rice field works. My dad though brought a revolution to the farmer tradition. He did not keep any of his kids to help with rice field works at all. All his kids go to school.

    My dad’s revolutionary vision was a long term investment as when kids started to make money after good education, the family standard of living was alot better than pure farmers who blocked kids from attending schools. Nowsaday, as I went back to visit the village, my dad education vision has been adopted widely by people.

    #335665
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    veayoo
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    I was with my dad at his final moment alive. He called my mom and all kids to listen to his last words.

    He told us that his death is coming as there were Yamareach staff, dressing in black, waiting to take him away. He told my two eldest brothers who were working as teachers then to help my widow mom taking care of all youngsters.

    My two eldest brothers did listen to my dad last words. They played a fatherhood role on all youngsters while they had kids on their own. Their care was nothing short of blessing on us their Prum Vihear Thor (meta, karuna, muttita and upekha). They made sure that food, shelter, clothes, medical needs, and opportunities for the most schooling were available to us. All my living siblings keep talking about lovely care till now.

    Along with the Prum Vihear Thor on family and strangers (Sala Samnak), my family and villagers keep talking about their kindness, as my brothers used to celebrate big 2 or 3 Buddhist ceremonies a year. With their salary and other incomes, they paid for the ceremonies cost. Villagers keep talking about their memory of great free foods and Lakhon Basak (Khmer live theater play) in these Buddhist ceremonies.

    My family Prum Vihear Thor includes love to family, neighbors and strangers.

    [Message last modified 05-30-2011 08:09pm by veayoo]

    #335636
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    In Cambodia, the “puppet king” is “prisoner” while prime minister is a power hunger. From this quoted article:

    http://www.sunherald.com/2011/05/29/3151799/cambodias-king-seen-as-a-prisoner.html

    Borameys see Sihamoni as an ok person who can hold on to Dharma. His loneliness character saves him as he would be allowed to step down.

    Hun Sen has not been so lucky and has been seen as un-pardonable. A Sdach Kmoch title was what I heard.

    Cambodia’s king seen as a ‘prisoner’ in his palace, By DENIS D. GRAY – Associated Press

    PHNOM PENH, Cambodia — As the sun sets and the last tourist departs his vast, fairy-tale palace, the gentle, dignified man is left almost alone with memories of happier times, before he became the reluctant king of Cambodia – and perhaps its last.

    King Norodom Sihamoni may be heir to a royal line trailing back some 2,000 years, but he always seemed more suited to the arts scene in Europe, where he was a ballet dancer, than the rough and tumble politics of his homeland. Now, close aides and experts say, he has become figuratively, and more, a prisoner in his own palace.

    The chief warden: Prime Minister Hun Sen, who rose from a poor rural background to become a brilliant and crafty, some say ruthless, politician.

    Hun Sen consolidated power in a 1997 coup as Cambodia slowly emerged from being dragged into the Vietnam War and its own civil war. While the country is nominally democratic, he uses all the machinery of government to lock up critics and ensure his re-election. Human rights groups allege that he and his business friends are enriching themselves, while most of the population remains mired in poverty.

    His control extends over the palace. The king is surrounded by the government’s watchdogs, overseen by Minister of Royal Affairs Kong Som Ol, an official close to Hun Sen. Sihamoni is closely chaperoned on his few trips outside palace walls, with the media kept away. Although the constitution endows him with considerable powers, these have never been granted.

    “I think we can use the words ‘puppet king.’ His power has been reduced to nothing,” says Son Chhay, an opposition member of Parliament and one of the government’s few outspoken critics. “The king must please the prime minister as much as possible in order to survive. It is sad to see.”

    It wasn’t always so. Sihamoni’s flamboyant and charismatic father, Norodom Sihanouk, bestrode the country like a colossus for decades. Many regarded him as a god-king, and thousands flocked to the plaza fronting the Royal Palace for fireworks and other lavish celebrations on his birthday.

    Sihanouk abruptly abdicated in 2004 following confrontations with Hun Sen. Son Chhay and others say Sihamoni accepted the crown under pressure from parents hoping to ensure the survival of the monarchy.

    Seven years later, “sad, lonely, abandoned” are words sympathetic Cambodians often use when describing Sihamoni. The 58-year-old monarch spends much of each day signing documents, receiving guests and handling other routine business, then retires mostly to dine alone and read, says Prince Sisowath Thomico, Sihanouk’s private secretary and an adviser to his son.

    ***

    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    My advice to all leaders who are not competent is to step aside and allow God, Preah Maha Prum and Neak Mean Bonns to do their Divine Intervention for Cambodia.

    As written in Buddha Tumneay, Kampuchea is destined to be Nokor Vongkot Borei aka the Oudom Mahanokor.

    If Cambodia and Cambodians interests are in your mind, you would not be able to find any more competent leaders than God, Preah Maha Prum and their Borameys.

    Divine Intervention would not come again for perhaps a long long time. Are you, leaders, ready?

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    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    A good democracy needs many capable leaders. If one falls down, the others are able to stand up and carry the flag.

    A good team needs leaders who are flexible to retreat from leadership while assume another position, in the team, as a follower and leader in a different capacity.

    Tenacious leaders who stand as a big problem will get eliminated.

    It is smart to take a high road stepping down, instead of getting fired or killed.

    I have no personal problem with Hun Sen. I only would feel better if he would take a high and smart road. I simply do not like anyone to get fired or killed. I am here to save lives!

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    In general, Cambodians (for example, Hun Sen) do not have the team spirit concept found in American culture.

    I was that way prior to messing myself up in American corporate life.

    In American corporate culture, bosses usuall preach team work spirit.

    Team work spirit means putting the team, the department or the corporation interest ahead of individual gain or loss. In this spirit, one needs to put his or her company profit ahead of his or her own.

    The spirit simply means others or the boss interest come first.

    Hun Sen has not picked this spirit at all. He has been first(PM) and is hanging onto that position no matter what. People, nation or democracy interests are not of his main concern.

    The fact that he cannot secure stability or prosperity is not his concern. Like many Cambodia leaders in the past 700 years (after Jayavarman VII), Hun Sen is drowned in the wrong Dharma.

    If he were to go by Dharma, he would consider stepping aside and let whoever is competent takes care of the Cambodia problems that generations of leaders have not been able to solve.

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    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    You could falsely make people believe that you are great by building road, bridge, school, houses, etc.

    The truth is that whatever you have done is not good enough. This is because if you have moved Cambodia up ten folds, neighbors like Vietnam or Thailand have progressed like 30 folds.

    Your incompetency does not help Cambodia to be strongh enough compared to neighbors to coexist in stability. With the inability to be stable, wars and hunger are always threatening these poor Cambodians.

    Incompetent Cambodia leaders, since after Jayavarman VII, always find excuses and have kept the people in war and poverty.

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    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    A country seadership is an attractive ideal for many. Leaders though should be aware that result from his/ her leadership affects millions of lives including followers, the weak and the unfortunated, and the Big Guys/ Neak Mean Bonns.

    By Dharma, it is wise for leaders to go by Tossapit Reachathor, the 10 leadership commandment. Nothing is better than considering followers and people interest.

    Ill-educated leaders misunderstand Dharma and always try to clich onto power tenaciously.

    By democracy, the country belongs to people. A country leader is not to take that away. Let’s people, including other possible leaders, to get a chance is the way of Dharma.

    Power, fame and money will not go with you to your next life. Dharma and Sampeay Bonn will.

    [quote]
    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]

    I was told that with his incompetent leadership and tenacity in hanging on to leadership power, Hun Sen will be made a Sdech Kmoch (king of the dead spirits) soon. ?????

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    [i]Originally posted by veayoo[/i]
    PhnomKlarSar,

    The last few sentences in the video say the ghosts at Koh Pich want a Chet Dey and are waiting for the two leaders, Sihamoni and Hun Sen.

    Did I get this right?

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    [i]Originally posted by PhnomKlarSar[/i]
    I think you should listen to this. This was about the bridge stampede at koh Pich.

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