Theravada VS Mahayan BUDDHISM

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    #310502
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    In the Bamboo Grove Dharma Dispension by the Awaken One, He asked 500 disciples to take a twig of bamboo and spread the Dharma. When the Dharma is successfully spread to plant the bamboo there. Of the 500, 250 went to the East and 250 went to the west. Two hundred disciples who went to the East successfully taught the Dharma. Hence, bamboo are grown mainly in the East and less so in the West.

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    Not that I am adverse to this…I think we (as in me, myself, and I)should adopt both sides of Buddhism to be more empowered. However, base on the information I gathered from the internet, it is said that Cambodia is a Theravada Buddhist nation. Why is it that it is colored yellow and not brown? Anyway, I advocate both sides of Buddhism—Theravada and Mahayana for we(as in me, myself, and I) are all practicing both. It is just that less attention is paid to either one depending on which one chooses to adhere. It is all about empowerment. The more one practice, the more one reap. Simply karma.

    Notice, Buddhism originaged in Bodh Gaya, Nepal. Yet, it is not color-coded. Why?

    [i]Originally posted by Tevbot[/i]

    [img]http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~gaverche/paths/buddhism/graphics/map1.jpg[/img]

    [Message last modified 07-23-2009 04:59pm by reksmay]

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    i was thinkin the same thing, fasle infomation pic.

    #310532
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    becuz Nepal remains approx 90% hindu, 5% muslim, and only 5% buddhist. =(

    ( thank goodness for Kashmiriyat! :) )

    [i]Originally posted by reksmay[/i]

    Notice, Buddhism originaged in Bodh Gaya, Nepal. Yet, it is not color-coded. Why?

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    [i]Originally posted by Tevbot[/i]

    [img]http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~gaverche/paths/buddhism/graphics/map1.jpg[/img]

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    #310542
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    You are right Reksmay, Cambodia practices Theravada Buddhism.

    The word “thera” means “elders.” The word “vada,” as in Hindus Vedas, means teaching. Therefore, Theravada is the teaching of the elders.

    Immediately after the Buddha’s Maha Nibbana, 500 monks, all fully Arahants, gathered to arrange for the safekeeping of the Buddha’s teaching. Monks were divided into groups. Each had separate responsibilities. They performed oral recitation (chanting). Thus, you still see monks chanting in Pali until this day.

    Those Arahants are the elder students of the Buddha. They safeguarded and practiced the Buddha’s teaching just as he did when the Buddha was still in human form. Thus it becomes known as Theravada Buddhism. It is the ONLY closest form of Buddhism to what the Buddha taught. Monks beg for food every morning. Mahayana monks do not go alms round.

    Mahayana means the greater vehicle. Maha means great, and yana means vehicle. Mahayana Buddhists places more emphasis on worshipping the Buddha-to-be, or Preah Po Tisat (Bodhisattva), who is believed to be Preah Se-ar Metrey.

    Buddhism means enlightenment, seeing things as they truly are, meaning that all that we have strived for is for NOTHING. We have nothing. We own nothing. We are fooled by the state of illusion. We came with nothing, and we will go with nothing. But people who do not see this will continue to fight one another just for the gratification of the five-sense chords.

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    Thanks, Domra! I really appreciate the information you provided below! It makes more sense to me now why Mahayana choose to adopt Boddhisattva, awaiting the Maitreya Buddha.

    According to the tale I heard, Maitreya Bodhisattva was among the disciples of Shakyamuni Gautoma Buddha. While Ananda Thera went to SouthEast Asia, namely Cambodia, Thai, Laos, etc., this one disciple (forgot his name at the moment) went to NorthEast. This disciple harnest energy through meditation—kungfu, chi, etc. When he went to China, he passed over his learning to them. That was how kungfu originated back then. Sorry, the story was iffy there as it was a long time since I heard this. Plus, it is relevant b/c that said disciple happened to be the Maitreya Bodhisattva.

    Now, here is another connection to China and Maitreya Boddhisattva. China once upon a time scoffed at the friendship pack between the Phoenix and the Dragon. According to legend, these two celestial beings were the rulers of the world. They also create humans among them. This was evidenced, should anyone believe or not. When China heard of the friendship pack between these two after their challenge, they scoffed and rediculed the Dragon, saying that how can Dragon have anything to do with their welfare?

    Dragon put a curse on them for he had a temper and could not tolerate anyone disrespecting Him. That curse entail that China will always be warring among themselves. That is why they put high emphasis on the surname. Each clan is distinguished by the surname plate (badge) tied to their clothes. Such surname badges will distinguish them as friend or foe. For centuries (don’t exactly know how long), they war among each other (civil war). Then, Phoenix (Maitreya Boddhisattva) told Dragon not to be so angry. He promise Dragon that he will be able to persuade the Chinese to believe in Dragon again within 500 years (generation?).

    He came down and took a human form. He went about town broadcasting the benefit of believing in Dragon. He promise that by believing, what ever they wish will come true. For example, if they pray for a prosperous business venture, they make prayers toward Dragon and Him and their prayers would be answered. When the people make prayers and when they embark on their endeavors and met with success, they began to gradually believe in Dragon and slowly the country recovered and no longer did they war with each other.

    The people loved the Boddhisattva so much that they swarmed Him. He was so happy that He tapped his stomach in laughter that he turned into a fat man. He is called the Laughing Buddha that is often depicted in China. I don’t know his name at the top of my head. But, he is said to be the Maitreya Bodhisattva by the Chinese. Since the Chinese revere the Dragon as the powerful Deity, peace is seen in their country. That is, no major catastrophe really happen as to diminish their boundaries and such. Chinese people are very deligent in faith from then on. They revere many Deities whether residing in the ground, in the house, in the sky, every where, they revere. And, one may attest that to their prosperity throughout the world. Not one place is seen without a Chinatown. Well, most places anyway. As seen with the solidarity of the pack between the Phoenix and Dragon, we see great solidarity among the Chinese people.

    Moral of the story: whether people believe it or not, it is something to consider. Solidarity is very important to the peace and well being of a nation. Not to mention faith plus perseverence. The Chinese are one race that is very deligent in any endeavor. We could see that in their proverbs and literature. This is to illustrate the good side of any given race.

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]
    You are right Reksmay, Cambodia practices Theravada Buddhism.

    The word “thera” means “elders.” The word “vada,” as in Hindus Vedas, means teaching. Therefore, Theravada is the teaching of the elders.

    Immediately after the Buddha’s Maha Nibbana, 500 monks, all fully Arahants, gathered to arrange for the safekeeping of the Buddha’s teaching. Monks were divided into groups. Each had separate responsibilities. They performed oral recitation (chanting). Thus, you still see monks chanting in Pali until this day.

    Those Arahants are the elder students of the Buddha. They safeguarded and practiced the Buddha’s teaching just as he did when the Buddha was still in human form. Thus it becomes known as Theravada Buddhism. It is the ONLY closest form of Buddhism to what the Buddha taught. Monks beg for food every morning. Mahayana monks do not go alms round.

    Mahayana means the greater vehicle. Maha means great, and yana means vehicle. Mahayana Buddhists places more emphasis on worshipping the Buddha-to-be, or Preah Po Tisat (Bodhisattva), who is believed to be Preah Se-ar Metrey.

    Buddhism means enlightenment, seeing things as they truly are, meaning that all that we have strived for is for NOTHING. We have nothing. We own nothing. We are fooled by the state of illusion. We came with nothing, and we will go with nothing. But people who do not see this will continue to fight one another just for the gratification of the five-sense chords.

    [Message last modified 07-23-2009 07:37pm by reksmay]

    #310552
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    Yeah. Because of the small percentage it is not something of note. However, it is funny as of late, though. Buddha, when He was alive and preaching the Dharma, the people shunned Him for they believe in Hinduism. They still remain to be a Hinduist nation. Yet, with the recent tourism to the Bodh Gaya, they are beginning to accept Buddhism a bit.

    It is of question why Buddha took rebirth in a country that revere Him very little. There are criteria that Buddha-to-be must have met first before it is destined for Him to take His last birth to be a Buddha. Once the condition satisfied, He came down after being summoned by the Deities to offer Lights to the world. But as of note, Buddha often take rebirth in a most impoverished country. It is the most corrupted and or impoverished country that people need Dharma the most. He went their and after relinquishing the worldly wealth that He found Enlightenment. He found it through much hardship. In an effort to bring new ideas into the already set system alas, it could not be for people are too adamant about the caste system. Anyway, there was a cute story I read somewhere I forgot the link to whereby Buddha, in one of His reincarnations, broke the mold of the caste system.

    [i]Originally posted by Tevbot[/i]
    becuz Nepal remains approx 90% hindu, 5% muslim, and only 5% buddhist. =(

    ( thank goodness for Kashmiriyat! :) )

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    [i]Originally posted by reksmay[/i]

    Notice, Buddhism originaged in Bodh Gaya, Nepal. Yet, it is not color-coded. Why?

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    [i]Originally posted by Tevbot[/i]

    [img]http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~gaverche/paths/buddhism/graphics/map1.jpg[/img]

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    #310561
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    Yes, Domra. Thanks for the clarification. I was confused if there were 1000 monks or if there were 500, but Buddha assigned half on opposite directions. So, half of 1000 is 500 and not necessarily mean half of 500. :)

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    Immediately after the Buddha’s Maha Nibbana, 500 monks, all fully Arahants, gathered to arrange for the safekeeping of the Buddha’s teaching. Monks were divided into groups. Each had separate responsibilities. They performed oral recitation (chanting). Thus, you still see monks chanting in Pali until this day.

    #310582
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    Yes once again, thanks, Domra! That is right that we own nothing and we will take nothing-worldly of course–with us. However, we will take only our karma–good and bad—with us, though.

    With the five-sense chords, we cannot exist in this world without them. Yet, we must learn to shed them off of us so that our journey is less burdensome. We must have something to be able to discard it later. The less we have, the easier to discard, huh? (sounds like oxymoron here :wink:)

    [i]Originally posted by domra[/i]

    Buddhism means enlightenment, seeing things as they truly are, meaning that all that we have strived for is for NOTHING. We have nothing. We own nothing. We are fooled by the state of illusion. We came with nothing, and we will go with nothing. But people who do not see this will continue to fight one another just for the gratification of the five-sense chords.

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