What does Buddhism have to say about masturbation?

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    What does Buddhism have to say about masturbation? Quite a bit more than other traditions. To progress in virtue (sila, restraint with regard to sensual craving), unselfishness (dana, generosity), and meditation (bhavana) one is wise to limit one’s exposure to provocations. If someone masturbates, it is not so much that it is a terrible stain on one’s mind (from an Buddhist psychological or Abhidharma point of view) but rather an unbeneficial habit being strenghtened. To shame it is to compound the act needlessly, making matters much worse. It is not sex that the Buddha warned against (for workaday Buddhists) but rather sexual misconduct. And that is very clearly defined as sexual intercourse with the ten prohibited persons (none of whom are oneself).

    Sexual misconduct (kamesu micchacara) means sex with someone who is dependent on another and protected or cared for by one’s: parents, spouse, relatives, religious group, the state, or otherwise made off limits. The monastic discipline (Vinaya) prohibits masturbation for monastics. The Eight Precepts prohibit it for lay practitioners. Yet the Five Precepts incumbent on human beings, and Buddhists in particular, do no specifically bar the practice. One should not therefore think that it is encouraged or tacitly condoned. It is not, nor is it a grave karmic act with heavy consequences. However, purposely fueling sensual desire is a dangerous thing exacerbated and strenghtened as masturbation becomes a habit or addiction.

    The cause of unsatisfactoriness (ill, woe, suffering, dukkha) is sensual craving. To provoke the mind/heart/body then relieve it (temporarily) through masturbation is a fool’s errand, a vicious circle, in fact, no “relief” at all. The Buddha compared it to a person suffering from a terrible skin disorder with open sores. To that person with a tremendous and overbearing itch, placing one’s arm over a fire to cauterize the wound will feel like pleasure. To anyone else, it would be unthinkably unpleasant to place one’s own arm in fire. Such is the distortion caused by an itch like sexual craving.

    (The prevalent practice of “cutting,” which seems incomprehensible to parents nowadays, is exactly the same phenomenon: the psychic pain of the individual, usually female and usually quite young and not infrequently sexually abused, is so great that the manifest and controllable pain of cutting is experienced as relief, along with the release of endorphins and chemicals also released by spiritual self-mortification and extreme austerities…akin to anorexia/bulimia).

    Sutra: The Use of Sex (AN IV.159)

    On one occasion a Buddhist nun fell in love with Ananda, the Buddha’s attendant. She feigned illness so that he would visit her bedside. Perceiving her state of mind and understanding the situation, Ananda spoke to the nun gently on the foul aspects of the body in order to free her from the grip of her passion:

    * This body has come into being through food; yet based on food, food can be abandoned.
    * This body has come into being through craving; yet based through craving, craving can be abandoned.
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    This body has come into being through conceit; yet based on conceit, conceit can be abandoned.
    * This body has come into being through the sexual act; but in regard to the sexual act the Blessed One has advised the destruction of the bridge.

    [Commentary: Setughata. This seems to be a metaphorical way of saying that a monastic should totally uproot sexual desire. The point of Ananda's discourse is that even food, craving, and conceit, which are normally factors of bondage, can be skillfully employed to attain enlightenment (arhatship). But with sexuality there is absolutely no skillful way it can be used for the goal of the higher life. Tantric sex may have some use somehow, superior to ordinary sex, but using it as a means to enlightenment is like treating an illness with illness.] Use the media wisely because stories like Prejean’s are not going anywhere…but the front page.

    (FOX News) Carrie Prejean says a steamy [masturbation] tape she made for an ex-boyfriend a few years ago was “the biggest mistake” of her life. The former [Christian conservative] Miss California USA told Fox News’ Sean Hannity Monday that she shot the racy tape by herself for a boyfriend she loved when she was 17. Later he “betrayed” her and sold it.

    #1571337
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    I3ig_Machine
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    In general, just 3 rules.

    1) Don’t f*ck children.
    2) Don’t f*ck married people.
    3) Don’t f*ck without permission.

    As for masturbation, like anything else, just don’t do it too much or to the point where it gets in the way of your life. Buddhism is a religion full of loopholes. Don’t kill animals, but you can eat it. Buddha ate meat. I use to feel guilty about downloading songs because it’s considered stealing in the eyes of the mpaa. Now that I think about it, I get it from people who gave it to me, so I wasn’t stealing..:)

    #1571338
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    Tevbot
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    “Your hand is always available as a subject for meditation.” – Thich Nhat Hanh

    (wat dat mean??)

    #1571339
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    eudaimonia
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    Buddha said all of that because he didn’t know the potential health benefits of sex and masterbation.

    #1571340
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    I3ig_Machine
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    But he knew that meditation was more beneficial..:). There’s a lot of horrible things associated with sex, and just a lot of dumb thing with masterbation. With meditation, u clear your mind, release your desires for unnecessary things, and become a better person. I’m sure buddha banged a lot of girls and had them play with him more than most people.

    [i]Originally posted by eudaimonia[/i]
    Buddha said all of that because he didn’t know the potential health benefits of sex and masterbation.

    #1571341
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    eudaimonia
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    I wouldn’t know because I never masturbate, uhh! I mean meditate before.

    [i]Originally posted by I3ig_Machine[/i]
    But he knew that meditation was more beneficial..:). There’s a lot of horrible things associated with sex, and just a lot of dumb thing with masterbation. With meditation, u clear your mind, release your desires for unnecessary things, and become a better person. I’m sure buddha banged a lot of girls and had them play with him more than most people.

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    [i]Originally posted by eudaimonia[/i]
    Buddha said all of that because he didn’t know the potential health benefits of sex and masterbation.

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    #1571342
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    brach
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    LOL…

    [i]Originally posted by eudaimonia[/i]
    I wouldn’t know because I never masturbate, uhh! I mean meditate before.
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    [i]Originally posted by I3ig_Machine[/i]
    But he knew that meditation was more beneficial..:). There’s a lot of horrible things associated with sex, and just a lot of dumb thing with masterbation. With meditation, u clear your mind, release your desires for unnecessary things, and become a better person. I’m sure [b]buddha banged a lot of girls and had them play with him more than most people.[/b]

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    [i]Originally posted by eudaimonia[/i]
    [b]Buddha said all of that because he didn’t know the potential health benefits of sex and masterbation.

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    #1571343
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    leang_grel
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    make sure you change hand in order to achieve nirvana.

    #1571344
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    brach
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    [i]Originally posted by leang_grel[/i]
    make sure you change hand in order to achieve nirvana.

    Wouldn’t that be the same as cheating?

    #1571345
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    Korbelicious
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    It would say…WAI DAI alov hoy. :D

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